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[SPL] CJ Entus vs. EG-TL R1 - Page 157

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King_law1992
Profile Joined December 2011
United States47 Posts
December 16 2012 17:34 GMT
#3121
EGTL needs to pull off some hard wins to stay in this proleauge
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 17:36:34
December 16 2012 17:36 GMT
#3122
On December 17 2012 02:32 GTPGlitch wrote:
gah, play Sea gaiz ;;


this. if you want to win, stop playing JYP (even though he won today, i'm not convinced) and HuK
ymir233
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States8275 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 17:42:03
December 16 2012 17:41 GMT
#3123
Every time people compare silly shit like 'playing right by punishing stupid walloffs' to Kwanro, a baby gets punched to death. Hydra was plenty aggressive like that in BW. People don't know what the fuck they're talking about...

These LR threads are silly, they should be focusing more on the game and not bitching about one side or the other. EG-TL prax more plz.
Come motivate me to be cynical about animus at http://infinityandone.blogspot.com/ // Stork proxy gates are beautiful.
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 17:47:21
December 16 2012 17:46 GMT
#3124
2 things people need to realize with eg-tl

1. the foreigners cannot compete. simply outclassed
2. taeja and hero are not vastly superior to the kespa players like some people have been saying. vastly superior to the kespa b teamers/lesser players yes, but against the top players from each team they're roughly even.

so what does that mean? eg-tl has roughly 3-4 people who can win a decent amount. not nearly enough to get far in pl
The Notorious Winkles
wanted2brek
Profile Joined December 2012
10 Posts
December 16 2012 17:50 GMT
#3125
would it somehow in any way be possible for a quick midseason line-up change and naniwa can be added to play for EGTL ?
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
December 16 2012 17:50 GMT
#3126
On December 16 2012 17:20 SniperVul5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 14:55 SniperVul5 wrote:
On December 05 2012 03:13 SniperVul5 wrote:
Why is this so hyped... EG and Liquid will probably only field their korean lineup to avoid embarrassing losses.


- from unholy alliance thread

What did I tell you... unless they field their best korean lineup of taeja, hero and puma.... EGTL will almost always suffer embarrassing losses.

The gap between Western vs Asian players continue to grow...




No surprise.... EGTL can only win with their koreans... white dudes just don't cut it.


+ loose practice regimen compared to kespa teams... rofl EG TL (like every other foreigner team) is in for a rude awakening

... welcome to proleague
booksmartguy
Profile Joined December 2012
United States45 Posts
December 16 2012 17:51 GMT
#3127
On December 17 2012 02:50 wanted2brek wrote:
would it somehow in any way be possible for a quick midseason line-up change and naniwa can be added to play for EGTL ?


After each round, they can update their rosters.
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
December 16 2012 18:06 GMT
#3128
I really dont want this to turn into another GSTL with Liquid participating in one season, never winning, then leaving.
I hope something good happens to change things around soon.
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland228 Posts
December 16 2012 18:13 GMT
#3129
On December 17 2012 03:06 SHOOG wrote:
I really dont want this to turn into another GSTL with Liquid participating in one season, never winning, then leaving.
I hope something good happens to change things around soon.

Chances are pretty slim for this, because despite their performance EG-TL has the most marketing potential for western audience.
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 16 2012 18:17 GMT
#3130
On December 17 2012 03:06 SHOOG wrote:
I really dont want this to turn into another GSTL with Liquid participating in one season, never winning, then leaving.
I hope something good happens to change things around soon.


As long as they send out Thorzain/huk and then eventually idra it will be hard for them to win matches. I know they are the most popular, but they simply aren't good enough and will lose to every Kespa player.

Taeja and Hero aren't the best players in proleague like every die hard fan believed. Players like Rain/Bogus/Baby are straight up better, and then tons of players like Roro/Soo/Flash/Hyvaa/Soulkey/Last/etc are on an even level. Then the other Kespa players are still good enough to take games from them.

Also, the Kespa players will improve at a faster rate because of much stricter practice schedule and more experience in PL. If they don't finish in last place I think it will be a success for TL-EG and it can be taken as a positive experience.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 18:27:37
December 16 2012 18:26 GMT
#3131
EGTL did a lot better than I would ever expect. They even have a good shot at winning next week against T8... Jaedong and Sea should probably become better and better quickly since they are quite new to sc2 still. But that goes for the other KeSPA teams as well though...

Also: JAEDONG FIGHTING!!
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 18:31:56
December 16 2012 18:31 GMT
#3132
if they want to keep sending foreigners for the foreign market but still win some games, they should just send stephano to korea and let him play in every series and in every ace match. he is probably the best player of EGTL anyways despite all the koreans
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
December 16 2012 18:36 GMT
#3133
On December 17 2012 02:36 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 02:32 GTPGlitch wrote:
gah, play Sea gaiz ;;


this. if you want to win, stop playing JYP (even though he won today, i'm not convinced) and HuK


JYP is fine but Thorzain did not look too good last night
you live and you learn
zanzib
Profile Joined December 2009
China152 Posts
December 16 2012 18:45 GMT
#3134
On December 17 2012 02:46 rysecake wrote:
2 things people need to realize with eg-tl

1. the foreigners cannot compete. simply outclassed
2. taeja and hero are not vastly superior to the kespa players like some people have been saying. vastly superior to the kespa b teamers/lesser players yes, but against the top players from each team they're roughly even.

so what does that mean? eg-tl has roughly 3-4 people who can win a decent amount. not nearly enough to get far in pl


I wouldn't write Thorzain and Huk off quite yet, but as they pick up motivation from their losses, it's playing catchup at this stage of the game.

Taeja and Hero have at least a slight edge against most top Kespa players, but they're totally unprepared against the tendencies of certain players and the nature incisive preparation in PL. We will see how they fair against Rain/Bogus/herO[join]/etc.

Sometimes backwards is forwards.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
December 16 2012 18:45 GMT
#3135
So, can you please tell me if theres any possibility at all to watch VoD of entire broadcast? The matches are cool, but seeing full broadcast is much better.. I didnt see KHAN vs Soul and I wont be able to see anything live tomorrow, due to work -.-
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 16 2012 18:49 GMT
#3136
So EG-TL went from 0:4 against one leading team to 3:4 against the other leading team and that´s somehow horrible? Give these guys a break. It´s not like CJ were a bunch of scrubs. They took out Woongjin 4:1 and against EG-TL they had a harder time. There´s quite a lot of matches to look forward to, but I guess being negative is more fun somehow.
infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
December 16 2012 18:53 GMT
#3137
I think CJ has one of the best line-ups this season so don't write of EG-TL yet. If they manage to adapt to the new environment, they'll do alright. Hopefully someone goes beastmode and carries the team to the playoffs.
Official Entusman #21
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
December 16 2012 18:53 GMT
#3138
Wait and see
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
December 16 2012 18:54 GMT
#3139
EGTL is just going to get better as the season progresses
eSports for life.
0cz3c
Profile Joined February 2008
United States564 Posts
December 16 2012 18:57 GMT
#3140
Please understand that the expectation for many was that EGTL would be the leading team. At 0-2 now, they're not only not in the chase or running for that position--they are dead last.

Disappointed by Hero's play. He can do much better. Jaedong is looking incredibly scary already, and that's a sign, I hope, of amazing things to come from him.
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