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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 16 2012 19:16 GMT
#3141
On December 17 2012 03:54 Ksquared wrote:
EGTL is just going to get better as the season progresses


So will the other teams.
phiRa
Profile Joined March 2012
United States35 Posts
December 16 2012 19:18 GMT
#3142
On December 17 2012 03:49 Daswollvieh wrote:
So EG-TL went from 0:4 against one leading team to 3:4 against the other leading team and that´s somehow horrible? Give these guys a break. It´s not like CJ were a bunch of scrubs. They took out Woongjin 4:1 and against EG-TL they had a harder time. There´s quite a lot of matches to look forward to, but I guess being negative is more fun somehow.


That's what I was thinking. I mean this was a lot closer than people are making it out to be. I'm sure even CJ was getting pretty worried after going down quick 2-0. JYP playing clutch like he did when he played for Slayers-EG and Taeja got a chance in the ace match. This was very close and could've gone EG's way and the tone of this whole thread would be completely different.
booksmartguy
Profile Joined December 2012
United States45 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 19:26:42
December 16 2012 19:25 GMT
#3143
On December 17 2012 04:18 phiRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 03:49 Daswollvieh wrote:
So EG-TL went from 0:4 against one leading team to 3:4 against the other leading team and that´s somehow horrible? Give these guys a break. It´s not like CJ were a bunch of scrubs. They took out Woongjin 4:1 and against EG-TL they had a harder time. There´s quite a lot of matches to look forward to, but I guess being negative is more fun somehow.


That's what I was thinking. I mean this was a lot closer than people are making it out to be. I'm sure even CJ was getting pretty worried after going down quick 2-0. JYP playing clutch like he did when he played for Slayers-EG and Taeja got a chance in the ace match. This was very close and could've gone EG's way and the tone of this whole thread would be completely different.


Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
December 16 2012 19:34 GMT
#3144
As long as EG-TL field all-korean lineup I can see them win some games.
Ch3rry
Profile Joined July 2011
Poland225 Posts
December 16 2012 19:35 GMT
#3145
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
December 16 2012 19:53 GMT
#3146
On December 17 2012 04:35 Ch3rry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!


Why put foreigners in when they are clearly inferior to KeSPA players? It's not fair to JD, Taeja, Hero, JYP etc. Putting in HuK or Thorzain is basically donating a map to the opponents.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 20:01:15
December 16 2012 20:00 GMT
#3147
On December 17 2012 04:53 HotGlueGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 04:35 Ch3rry wrote:
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!


Why put foreigners in when they are clearly inferior to KeSPA players? It's not fair to JD, Taeja, Hero, JYP etc. Putting in HuK or Thorzain is basically donating a map to the opponents.


Why would any team play its less exposed or less achieving line up instead of just playing its A-team every game? To develop talent and diversify potential. Same for any other team in any sports. Look at KT's persistence in trusting its zerg line up even though it consistently pulls poor results, and in the end they always come through for KT in clutch situations because of that trust. Players perform better knowing that the team is truly working together.
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Daswollvieh
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
5553 Posts
December 16 2012 20:01 GMT
#3148
On December 17 2012 04:53 HotGlueGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 04:35 Ch3rry wrote:
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!


Why put foreigners in when they are clearly inferior to KeSPA players? It's not fair to JD, Taeja, Hero, JYP etc. Putting in HuK or Thorzain is basically donating a map to the opponents.


Because to feel entitled.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
December 16 2012 20:02 GMT
#3149
On December 17 2012 04:35 Ch3rry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!


wat.
I'm Jeff Goldblum
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
December 16 2012 20:37 GMT
#3150
Am I the only one who thinks the KeSPA maps are horribly imbalanced? Look at Arkanoid for example...
hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
December 16 2012 20:41 GMT
#3151
It's hard to complain too much of map imbalance in this format, if you think Terran is bad on a map don't send a Terran.
Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
December 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#3152
Just finished watching the vods, good match, <3 jaedong, thorzain didn't look very comfortable on arkanoid and didn't really have a gameplan for it. CJ is pretty strong so no shame in losing a close match! Looking forward to next match against T8!
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
December 16 2012 20:52 GMT
#3153
CJ.Hero is destroying my fantasy team.
Devise
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada1131 Posts
December 16 2012 20:53 GMT
#3154
On December 17 2012 05:52 red4ce wrote:
CJ.Hero is destroying my fantasy team.


He's my Captain
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
December 16 2012 20:55 GMT
#3155
On December 17 2012 04:35 Ch3rry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 04:25 booksmartguy wrote:
Next series should be an easy win for EG-TL, with their all Korean lineup. But once they put one or two foreigners in the lineup, it is very hard to win before ACE match.

For me it's the main point I root for EG-TL because they DON'T HAVE all Korean line-up.

Honestly, I would prefer if they strugle all season with Stephano, HuK, ThorZain and Idra playing on every week, than if EG-TL win this thing using all-Korean players for each match.

Foreigners FTW!


I watch pro starcraft to enjoy clutch and gosu plays, I don't give a damn who's the players. Since koreans play better than foreigners, i'll take korean line up all day.

KOREANS FTW ! Especially the Dong.
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Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
December 16 2012 20:56 GMT
#3156
2 Heros broke my heart T-T. Liquid'HerO for losing to ling rush, and CJ.herO for winning two games T-T
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 20:59:44
December 16 2012 20:57 GMT
#3157
Give more time and they will get better

Why is everyone hating on foreigners? Koreans did jack shi vs Kt rolster

And half of the koreans did jack shi vs CJ.

Everyone in this team, just need time
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JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
December 16 2012 21:04 GMT
#3158
On December 17 2012 05:37 terriBean wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the KeSPA maps are horribly imbalanced? Look at Arkanoid for example...


Could you elaborate?
I'm Jeff Goldblum
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
December 16 2012 21:07 GMT
#3159
On December 17 2012 06:04 JeffGoldblum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 05:37 terriBean wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the KeSPA maps are horribly imbalanced? Look at Arkanoid for example...


Could you elaborate?


It's practically an island map + very choke heavy. Looks like it's dominated by run-bys and quick units like Muta.
JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
December 16 2012 21:11 GMT
#3160
On December 17 2012 06:07 terriBean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 06:04 JeffGoldblum wrote:
On December 17 2012 05:37 terriBean wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the KeSPA maps are horribly imbalanced? Look at Arkanoid for example...


Could you elaborate?


It's practically an island map + very choke heavy. Looks like it's dominated by run-bys and quick units like Muta.


Are you basing that on Thorzain's game? Because he clearly didn't prepare for and it never crossed his mind that a big run by would happen considering the way he played.
I'm Jeff Goldblum
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