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On December 15 2012 14:00 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 13:58 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 15 2012 13:55 StarStruck wrote:On December 15 2012 13:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Here's what I don't understand.
MVP was the best player to switch and he turned out to be the best SC2 player overall.
How come the best Kespa players are doing so poorly except Flash? Only Flash? You sure you have your facts straight? Out of the best BW Kespa players, I think he's the only one who transitioned well (and maybe Fantasy but yesterday was kinda bad) Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Jangbi are all having a terriblely hard time. Jangbi and Bisu yes but I hardly consider being in up downs in Jaedong and Fantasys case a hard time. Also despite Fantasy struggling if he had just scanned the ramp at Antiga like he probably does 99 times out of 100 then he wins that game and we might be talking about a Code S Fantasy.
I think Flash's play style allowed him to transition easily into SC2. Jaedong and Bisu's BW dominance mostly came from their superior mechanics, which simply doesn't translate into SC2 dominance.
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sigh... fucking jaehoon effect makes me cry.
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On December 15 2012 14:10 foxmeep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:00 Adreme wrote:On December 15 2012 13:58 SarcasmMonster wrote:On December 15 2012 13:55 StarStruck wrote:On December 15 2012 13:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Here's what I don't understand.
MVP was the best player to switch and he turned out to be the best SC2 player overall.
How come the best Kespa players are doing so poorly except Flash? Only Flash? You sure you have your facts straight? Out of the best BW Kespa players, I think he's the only one who transitioned well (and maybe Fantasy but yesterday was kinda bad) Jaedong, Stork, Bisu, Jangbi are all having a terriblely hard time. Jangbi and Bisu yes but I hardly consider being in up downs in Jaedong and Fantasys case a hard time. Also despite Fantasy struggling if he had just scanned the ramp at Antiga like he probably does 99 times out of 100 then he wins that game and we might be talking about a Code S Fantasy. I think Flash's play style allowed him to transition easily into SC2. Jaedong and Bisu's BW dominance mostly came from their superior mechanics, which simply doesn't translate into SC2 dominance.
Jaedong specifically mentioned not being able to be as aggressive with zerg and not being able to micro as finely (mutas are a great example) for his struggles. Kinda sad he thinks his old playstyle might be dead  .
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On December 15 2012 14:04 11cc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:02 oneofthem wrote:
skt1 sounds much better than skt t1. so there. kt sounds much better than skt1 or skt t1.
KT FINGERBANG!!!
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On December 15 2012 14:37 DamageControL wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:04 11cc wrote:On December 15 2012 14:02 oneofthem wrote:
skt1 sounds much better than skt t1. so there. kt sounds much better than skt1 or skt t1. KT FINGERBANG!!!
fingerboom*
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KINDA BREAKING THREAD WARNING READ WITH CAUTION
+ Show Spoiler +been gone for a while and couldn't find anything on TL / Google. If some1 can shoot me a PM explaining what the esf kespa thing is all about that would be awesome
On topic: jaehoon over mind? O-o
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On December 15 2012 14:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:00 Talin wrote:On December 15 2012 13:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 15 2012 13:58 NicksonReyes wrote:
Flash +4
Wooki +4
Action +4
Stats +2
Hoejja +1
CH +1
KT +6
Thanks KT. lol win this season. More like win the first two weeks against weakest teams.  I fully expect KT to be more... KT-like against real teams. dominate with our zergs? how nice.
Hoejja ain't the beast he used to be as in broodwar ...
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On December 15 2012 15:09 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 14:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 15 2012 14:00 Talin wrote:On December 15 2012 13:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 15 2012 13:58 NicksonReyes wrote:
Flash +4
Wooki +4
Action +4
Stats +2
Hoejja +1
CH +1
KT +6
Thanks KT. lol win this season. More like win the first two weeks against weakest teams. I fully expect KT to be more... KT-like against real teams. dominate with our zergs? how nice. Hoejja ain't the beast he used to be as in broodwar ...
Hoejja wasn't a beast in brood war lol. He had good ZvP and that's it, terrible ZvT
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just curious - if I start doing proleague game analysis blogs, can I link to it in the relevant LR threads?
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Nice to see the real pros play, Look forward to learning alot from these players
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On December 15 2012 15:28 TheSubtleArt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 15:09 Sawamura wrote:On December 15 2012 14:01 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 15 2012 14:00 Talin wrote:On December 15 2012 13:59 BLinD-RawR wrote:On December 15 2012 13:58 NicksonReyes wrote:
Flash +4
Wooki +4
Action +4
Stats +2
Hoejja +1
CH +1
KT +6
Thanks KT. lol win this season. More like win the first two weeks against weakest teams. I fully expect KT to be more... KT-like against real teams. dominate with our zergs? how nice. Hoejja ain't the beast he used to be as in broodwar ... Hoejja wasn't a beast in brood war lol. He had good ZvP and that's it, terrible ZvT
obviously you've never seen playoffs hoejja.
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just tuned in and saw a protoss die to a 1 base bling allin, lol :D
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Ugh, I'm sad there are a three fantasy players I would want on my team after this game....
But I can't hate action. He has certainly provided one of the best value picks out of all KESPA players, being only (4/5? i cant' remember) points and giving wins for two weeks. If I don't hold on to him, I expect he will have a NICE trade value in the coming weeks.
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Flash wins and KT wins 4-1. It is a good day.
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On December 15 2012 13:54 Serpico wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 13:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Here's what I don't understand.
MVP was the best player to switch and he turned out to be the best SC2 player overall.
How come the best Kespa players are doing so poorly except Flash? Because he switched at a point where no one could build a large lead on him in terms of skill. Pretty simple.
According to zero / some WJS member, think it was him, MvP had mayor nerve issues in BW and couldnt show his full potential.. and when he could he made a ro8 in the OSL.. Or was it MSL, I can't remember
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On December 15 2012 17:02 Iplaythings wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 13:54 Serpico wrote:On December 15 2012 13:51 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Here's what I don't understand.
MVP was the best player to switch and he turned out to be the best SC2 player overall.
How come the best Kespa players are doing so poorly except Flash? Because he switched at a point where no one could build a large lead on him in terms of skill. Pretty simple. According to zero / some WJS member, think it was him, MvP had mayor nerve issues in BW and couldnt show his full potential.. and when he could he made a ro8 in the OSL.. Or was it MSL, I can't remember
He's pretty damn good in BW already at that time. SC2 unleashed his power, and I guess also nerve issue got resolved.
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Excuse me. How do i find the VOD? I am KT Fan.
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Anyone else depressed at the incredibly low amount of studio attendance?
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any vods/restreams available?
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