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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
December 15 2012 09:37 GMT
#941
Some more serious fuckin fanta-fail =(
Bunn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Estonia934 Posts
December 15 2012 09:40 GMT
#942
Just watched soo vs flying. Soo's hold was so amazing!
"There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level." - Bruce Lee
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 15 2012 10:24 GMT
#943
Hrm, just woke up. The wierd feeling I had when two players on my team face off in the ace...lol.
#freeshauni
Severus_
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
759 Posts
December 15 2012 11:04 GMT
#944
HTF hon_sin won vs fantasy ?
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 15 2012 11:15 GMT
#945
On December 15 2012 20:04 Severus_ wrote:
HTF hon_sin won vs fantasy ?

WATCH IT!
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
December 15 2012 11:30 GMT
#946
just started watching vods on the english twitch and all of them lag so extremely much its almost unwatchable tt
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 15 2012 11:34 GMT
#947
On December 15 2012 20:04 Severus_ wrote:
HTF hon_sin won vs fantasy ?


Hon_sin is 1-0 Bisu, 1-0 Fantasy, 2-0 Marineking, and won against MC, what a boss etc.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
December 15 2012 11:36 GMT
#948
On December 15 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:52 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:43 Adreme wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:32 haka wrote:
Well, at least Soo's on my anti-team lol.


I think its a net 0 if a player on your anti team loses the ace match.


Actually, having an anti team player losing an ace match is the only way to gain points on your anti. You get +1 on anti for a player's ace loss.

i think the player needs to lose twice to gain points? if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero


And if they didn't show up the main lineup?
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
Inzan1ty
Profile Joined September 2012
1163 Posts
December 15 2012 11:37 GMT
#949
Quite an upset, quite bold to not put Rain in the Ace, unlike most Protoss he knows perfectly how to counter Zerg, and Soulkey was one of the more likelier picks for Woongjin to play Ace here..
RIP Seung Hyun 'Space' Park † 6/5/2013 - Undead hero and eSports rolemodel
speknek
Profile Joined February 2012
758 Posts
December 15 2012 11:40 GMT
#950
haha just watched fantasy's game, awesome :D
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-15 12:03:03
December 15 2012 12:01 GMT
#951
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'm cutting myself right now. I traded Soulkey off my team... and he just won his match AND ace match.
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 12:04 GMT
#952
On December 15 2012 20:36 Solarsail wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:52 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:43 Adreme wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:32 haka wrote:
Well, at least Soo's on my anti-team lol.


I think its a net 0 if a player on your anti team loses the ace match.


Actually, having an anti team player losing an ace match is the only way to gain points on your anti. You get +1 on anti for a player's ace loss.

i think the player needs to lose twice to gain points? if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero


And if they didn't show up the main lineup?

then you can never "gain" points from them. they need to lose twice to "gain" one point
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
December 15 2012 12:05 GMT
#953
you traded SK for wooki, its not the worst trade in the world.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 15 2012 12:15 GMT
#954
On December 15 2012 18:37 Asha` wrote:
Some more serious fuckin fanta-fail =(

T_T i choose him for FPL in the hope he is pretty damn good (which i think he is anyway) and on his way to take over the Ace role of Rain.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1471 Posts
December 15 2012 12:34 GMT
#955
I would just like to say:

lol @ SKT1 zerg for ace match.

Next thing you know it'll be a Woonjin terran and Team 8 protoss winning all the things.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
December 15 2012 12:59 GMT
#956
On December 15 2012 21:34 LightSpectra wrote:
I would just like to say:

lol @ SKT1 zerg for ace match.

Next thing you know it'll be a Woonjin terran and Team 8 protoss winning all the things.


MVP is woongjin terran. Also soo is the best player on SKT outside of rain and won the MvP invitational against Soulkey / Flash / Effort / Oz.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
December 15 2012 12:59 GMT
#957
On December 15 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 20:36 Solarsail wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:52 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:43 Adreme wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:32 haka wrote:
Well, at least Soo's on my anti-team lol.


I think its a net 0 if a player on your anti team loses the ace match.


Actually, having an anti team player losing an ace match is the only way to gain points on your anti. You get +1 on anti for a player's ace loss.

i think the player needs to lose twice to gain points? if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero


And if they didn't show up the main lineup?

then you can never "gain" points from them. they need to lose twice to "gain" one point


No.
If the player is not in the lineup but plays and loses the ace match you get +1 on anti (+1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)
If the player loses twice in one match you also get +1 on anti (+1 lineup, -1 loss, +1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)
If the player wins his normal match but loses the ace match you get -2 on anti (+1 lineup, +2 win, +1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)

On December 15 2012 18:40 Bunn wrote:
Just watched soo vs flying. Soo's hold was so amazing!

Soo played very well, but Flying's indecision and poor execution are the reasons why he lost.

On December 15 2012 21:01 Silentness wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I'm cutting myself right now. I traded Soulkey off my team... and he just won his match AND ace match.


I guess this is your first FPL?
Generally, you should never trade a player for somebody half his value (Soulkey 41.14 > Wooki, 20.76)
Also, you shouldn't drop potential ace players from your team (soulkey is a likely ace for woongjin, wooki will probably never play an ace match)
However, at least you got somebody fairly decent. + Show Spoiler +
Wooki already earned you 4 points today and will probably get you another 5 in the next game)
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 15 2012 13:03 GMT
#958
On December 15 2012 21:59 ggrrg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 20:36 Solarsail wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:52 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:43 Adreme wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:32 haka wrote:
Well, at least Soo's on my anti-team lol.


I think its a net 0 if a player on your anti team loses the ace match.


Actually, having an anti team player losing an ace match is the only way to gain points on your anti. You get +1 on anti for a player's ace loss.

i think the player needs to lose twice to gain points? if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero


And if they didn't show up the main lineup?

then you can never "gain" points from them. they need to lose twice to "gain" one point


No.
If the player is not in the lineup but plays and loses the ace match you get +1 on anti (+1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)

afaik you need to play in starting six to be sent out as ace?

On December 15 2012 21:59 ggrrg wrote:
If the player loses twice in one match you also get +1 on anti (+1 lineup, -1 loss, +1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)

that's what i said

ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
December 15 2012 13:06 GMT
#959
I don't think SoO was a bad choice for ace, he might not be quite as good as Rain, but sending a Protoss on Tal'Darim against an almost certain Zerg (or PvP without ramp LOL) is worse. SoO's still a bit underrated I think because he's an SKT Zerg
I think esports is pretty nice.
ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2716 Posts
December 15 2012 13:06 GMT
#960
On December 15 2012 22:03 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:59 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 21:04 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 20:36 Solarsail wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:53 opterown wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:52 ggrrg wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:43 Adreme wrote:
On December 15 2012 17:32 haka wrote:
Well, at least Soo's on my anti-team lol.


I think its a net 0 if a player on your anti team loses the ace match.


Actually, having an anti team player losing an ace match is the only way to gain points on your anti. You get +1 on anti for a player's ace loss.

i think the player needs to lose twice to gain points? if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero


And if they didn't show up the main lineup?

then you can never "gain" points from them. they need to lose twice to "gain" one point


No.
If the player is not in the lineup but plays and loses the ace match you get +1 on anti (+1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)

afaik you need to play in starting six to be sent out as ace?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2012 21:59 ggrrg wrote:
If the player loses twice in one match you also get +1 on anti (+1 lineup, -1 loss, +1 ace appearance, -2 ace loss)

that's what i said



You said that they "need to lose twice to "gain" one point". If they get fielded only in ace and lose that match you still gain one point on anti.
Also, you said that "if they win their main lineup game and lose ace, then it's net zero".
That's also not correct. This would lead to you losing 2 points on anti.
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