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On December 10 2012 05:37 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. MMA's time at the top is loooooong over in a way it's tragic watching MMA come into the year as the king of the world and seeing him slowly but surely falling down. I would give some time before calling him to retire, now that he's in good hands, he can have a stable training
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Northern Ireland23717 Posts
Can we stop with this 'betrayed Boxer' nonsense please?
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On December 10 2012 05:39 c0sm0naut wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:37 Fusilero wrote:On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. MMA's time at the top is loooooong over in a way it's tragic watching MMA come into the year as the king of the world and seeing him slowly but surely falling down. he used to be exciting to watch remember his proxy tank rush vs MVP On daybreak? that was one of the best series opener i have ever seen. made that TvT series beyond sick even tho it wasn't very even you were impressed by a proxy tank cheese? o.O
there are so many better games by MMA to be fanboying over.
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On December 10 2012 05:40 Wombat_NI wrote: Can we stop with this 'betrayed Boxer' nonsense please?
It's not nonsense though.
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On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. Who betrayed whom has nothing to do with game results. The reality is that a lot of previously good terrans have dropped down to near-irrelevance and there have been few replacements so far.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:39 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:37 Fusilero wrote:On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. MMA's time at the top is loooooong over in a way it's tragic watching MMA come into the year as the king of the world and seeing him slowly but surely falling down. I would give some time before calling him to retire, now that he's in good hands, he can have a stable training Not saying he should retire but it's been a long way since he had the MVP aura at the very start.
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United Kingdom3482 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:40 Wombat_NI wrote: Can we stop with this 'betrayed Boxer' nonsense please? But if we don't have that what drama will we have to latch onto?
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Bomber is comming back, and Polt looks fine too. MVP just has to recover from his operation, and the Terrans will be good.
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On December 10 2012 05:41 pmp10 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. Who betrayed whom has nothing to do with game results. The reality is that a lot of previously good terrans have dropped down to near-irrelevance and there have been few replacements so far. I cant think of another terran who had such a huge drop off. What he needed was to listen to a coach like Boxer, who dealt with success and was able to maintain his results for a relatively long period of time.
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On December 10 2012 05:37 packrat386 wrote: 0:00
Game 2, Match 1 (Goswer 1 - MMA - 0)
Map is Cloud Kingdom
Goswer (who I will call gosu) is in the bot left MMA is in the top right
1:00 nothing terribly interesting yet, no proxies or early pools
2:00 hatch first for gosu cc first for mma, on the high ground pool at normal time for gosu, and rax and gas for mma
3:00 drone gets in mmas base and sees the gas/cc/rax gosu getting the first gas, maybe thinks mma will throw another game if he allins again :/
4:00 mma drops his fact of one gas now gets the second gas, and still hasn't killed the drone gosu drops the roach warren, earlier than last game (22 drone)
5:00 reactor on the fact for mma now a starport for mma
6:00 gosu got supply blocked form losing OLs now 6 roaches,hellions and banshee inc for mma, but no cloak so far roaches go around the hellions
7:00 hellions reach the nat and begin to attack drones roaches in the main of mma only 1 bunker with repair hellions die for mma, banshee trying to kill the roaches before losing scvs
8:00 total here is 7 scvs to 4 drones killed helliosn moving toward the nat of gosu ebays for mma inc muta follup for gosu
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On December 10 2012 05:43 Dekkers wrote: Bomber is comming back, and Polt looks fine too. MVP just has to recover from his operation, and the Terrans will be good. Gumiho, man.
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lol gosuuser is so chesy
LR confusion 11:00 MMA has like 15 creep tumors in his 3rd base
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On December 10 2012 04:15 mr_tolkien wrote: I'm very curious to see Dragon on HotS !!! This should be epic ^_^
He's streaming Hots almost all of the time, so it should be possible for you to still that desire. ^^
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On December 10 2012 05:43 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:43 Dekkers wrote: Bomber is comming back, and Polt looks fine too. MVP just has to recover from his operation, and the Terrans will be good. Gumiho, man.
Yeah, alos forgot all the Kespa players.
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On December 10 2012 05:36 Sub40APM wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:32 pmp10 wrote: Terrans need a generation shift. Old kings aren't cutting it anymore. what are you talking about? MVP won a historic GSL and almost won another one but for one boneheaded move. The real lesson here is that MMA showed up, shone brightly for a year, got too cocky, betrayed boxer and is now as irrelevant as a North American terran. You are so clueless.
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On December 10 2012 05:43 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:43 Dekkers wrote: Bomber is comming back, and Polt looks fine too. MVP just has to recover from his operation, and the Terrans will be good. Gumiho, man. forGG
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goswer did that to polt earlier in the hyperx thing blocking the third with creep
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goswser.. i like to watch him play i just think he makes bad decisions
ediT: like that attack.. MMA has more medivacs than he has mutas ,why even trY?
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On December 10 2012 05:45 DOUDOU wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:43 andaylin wrote:On December 10 2012 05:43 Dekkers wrote: Bomber is comming back, and Polt looks fine too. MVP just has to recover from his operation, and the Terrans will be good. Gumiho, man. forGG I'm a Forgg fan, but, sadly I don't think so.
He's still a boss though.
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On December 10 2012 05:43 packrat386 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 05:37 packrat386 wrote: 0:00
Game 2, Match 1 (Goswer 1 - MMA - 0)
Map is Cloud Kingdom
Goswer (who I will call gosu) is in the bot left MMA is in the top right 1:00 nothing terribly interesting yet, no proxies or early pools 2:00 hatch first for gosu cc first for mma, on the high ground pool at normal time for gosu, and rax and gas for mma 3:00 drone gets in mmas base and sees the gas/cc/rax gosu getting the first gas, maybe thinks mma will throw another game if he allins again :/ 4:00 mma drops his fact of one gas now gets the second gas, and still hasn't killed the drone gosu drops the roach warren, earlier than last game (22 drone) 5:00 reactor on the fact for mma now a starport for mma 6:00 gosu got supply blocked form losing OLs now 6 roaches,hellions and banshee inc for mma, but no cloak so far roaches go around the hellions 7:00 hellions reach the nat and begin to attack drones roaches in the main of mma only 1 bunker with repair hellions die for mma, banshee trying to kill the roaches before losing scvs 8:00 total here is 7 scvs to 4 drones killed helliosn moving toward the nat of gosu ebays for mma inc muta follup for gosu sorry i waited so long to post that last one, slipped my mind
9:00 gosu blocking the third with creep tumors taking his own third now but harassed by banshees
10:00 mutas just popping now, they take out the banshee bane speed inc for gosu mma dropping turrets ereywhere
11:00 ol hunting viking looks like its going to go down but takes a mut with him
12:00 as mma moves out to take out the creep at his main he gets ataccked by lings on the creep mma loses some rines but survives with his tanks
13:00 gosu taking his 4th as well as getting a macro hatch, 2-2 inc for mma mma takes the other third (mid right) but it gest scouted by mutas and by scouted I mean gosu loses almost all of his mutas trying to kill scvs
14:00 engagement at the high ground near that third leads to gosu trying to kills tansk with banes loses almost all of his army for 3 tansk of mma
15:00 another engage but he rine splits are good and mma manages totake out a lot
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