• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:10
CEST 01:10
KST 08:10
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15Team TLMC #5 - Finalists & Open Tournaments2
Community News
BSL Season 214herO joins T121Artosis vs Ret Showmatch53Classic wins RSL Revival Season 22Weekly Cups (Sept 15-21): herO Goes For Four2
StarCraft 2
General
How to recover lost cryptocurrency—and how to keep Production Quality - Maestros of the Game Vs RSL 2 SC2 5.0.15 PTR Patch Notes + Sept 22nd update Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4) Had to smile :)
Tourneys
Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 19 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Prome's Evo #1 - Solar vs Classic (SC: Evo)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive Mutation # 490 Masters of Midnight
Brood War
General
ASL20 General Discussion BSL Season 21 Artosis vs Ret Showmatch BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL 20 Soundtrack
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro8 Day 2 Azhi's Colosseum [ASL20] Ro8 Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Current Meta I am doing this better than progamers do. Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Liquipedia App: Now Covering SC2 and Brood War! Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] Sorry, Chill, My Bad :…
Peanutsc
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1747 users

[SPL] KT Rolster vs. EG-TL R1 - Page 204

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 202 203 204 205 206 215 Next
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
December 08 2012 08:20 GMT
#4061
None of the top EG-TL players were used, and a 4-0. So disappointing.

Maybe the maps had something to do with this as well.
/commercial
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 08 2012 08:24 GMT
#4062
Just watching VODs, holy shit what a beast mode from Flash, his resources are barely going above 200, and his harras while macroing hard behind...I'm impressed
Znoz
Profile Joined January 2011
Latvia127 Posts
December 08 2012 08:45 GMT
#4063
Good that I was sleeping :<
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
December 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#4064
Alexander Garfield, CEO of Evil Geniuses after day1:"oh boy that escalated quickly!"
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
Wudu
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria127 Posts
December 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#4065
4 - 0 ? welcome to reallity!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
December 08 2012 08:56 GMT
#4066
4-0, not surprised at all tbh.
TL+ Member
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 08 2012 09:00 GMT
#4067
you guys are so fucking harsh
it's their first proleague match ever
it's the opening day of the first sc2 proleague ever
it's the first time for most of them to play in the boot

you have no clue what kind of pressure you get from that
SkyTheUnknown
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Germany2065 Posts
December 08 2012 09:01 GMT
#4068
Hope this brings the EG-TL players down to earth and will motivate them to practice like the same amount as the other korean teams.
The oldest and strongest emotion of mankind is fear, and the oldest and strongest kind of fear is fear of the unknown - H.P. Lovecraft
ShakkaFL
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway647 Posts
December 08 2012 09:02 GMT
#4069
I hope this teaches people not to overhype foreign teams so much
Terran 24/7
CruelZeratul
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany4588 Posts
December 08 2012 09:02 GMT
#4070
I should have voted with my brain, not my heart
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13056 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:05:40
December 08 2012 09:03 GMT
#4071
Welcome to the real world of Starcraft EG/TL

There are free HD VODS or esportstv on youtube with korean commentary. Well I always watched BW in korean so free and korean > english + money
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 08 2012 09:04 GMT
#4072
It has been said before in the thread but these results for the EG-TL team will vary based on who shows up. When Taeja/Stephano and crew are there I doubt if they lose a match. When they are not there it's going to be tough for this team. The biggest advantage the kespa teams have in this is their commitment to the format: minimal globe-trotting and massive preparation. It's going to be hard for pure skill to overcome that (not saying Kespa players are not as skilled, just that they will have a huge advantage over a foreign team that pays its bills by traveling constantly).
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
December 08 2012 09:04 GMT
#4073
On December 08 2012 18:00 Boonbag wrote:
you guys are so fucking harsh
it's their first proleague match ever
it's the opening day of the first sc2 proleague ever
it's the first time for most of them to play in the boot

you have no clue what kind of pressure you get from that


Most people here are mocking the people who conveniently removed those reasons you listed when making predictions pn who would emerge victorious
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
December 08 2012 09:10 GMT
#4074
Ouch, that went wrong.
keep it deep! @zulison
Hren
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
December 08 2012 09:12 GMT
#4075
Wow. That was a big dose of harsh reality.
Neski
Profile Joined October 2012
17 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:17:26
December 08 2012 09:16 GMT
#4076
On December 08 2012 17:04 Joedaddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:52 foxmeep wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:45 Joedaddy wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:17 Steel wrote:
Ouch. Where was the core of Liquid?


Yeah... zeno, jyp, thorzain, and jaedong are good, but where were your anchors at? I'd love to know why EG-TL chose Zenio, JYP, and Thorzain to compete rather than Taeja, Hero, and Stephano. Best analogy I can think of is having your 2nd stringers starting the game.

I don't think a single EG-TL member that played tonight has higher than 46% win rate this year. KT didn't send a player out tonight that had less than a 57% win rate this year. Would be really interesting to hear the EG-TL's coaches mindset in setting their roster up. It just doesn't make sense to me, at all.


It would make a whole lot more sense if you READ THE POST FOUR POSTS BEFORE YOU.


manner. I opened up the reply box and between watching STX vs SK Telecom and looking at TLPD it was ~30 minutes before I hit the post button oO That reply was made somewhere in the middle lol. Take a deep breath! Its all good dood.

Personally, if EG-TL can't give 100% to SPL I would rather they didn't commit to it. I don't want to see our foreign banner getting run over because we have to many irons in the fire. I want to see total domination, or at the very least, I want to see the best we have to offer T.T;



+ Show Spoiler +
Manner... lol, at least have the dignity to accept you can't read


User was warned for this post
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:21:34
December 08 2012 09:17 GMT
#4077
On December 08 2012 16:30 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:24 Elite_ wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:17 Steel wrote:
Ouch. Where was the core of Liquid?

For the hundredth or so time in this thread... NASL is in 12 hours. You expect HerO or TaeJa to go to IPL5, come back to Korea for this match, and go back to California for NASL the day of this match?


A Proleague team wouldn't let their only two decent players play in some American tournament while the match was going on, would they? Pull the players from NASL and get them to grind inhouse games for their match.

It's the same story as Liquid in GSTL all over again. All show, no commitment.


Proleague teams also have big Korean sponsors which allows them to do this... This comparison is just stupid.

PL teams also sent their Aces to MLG during Proleagues last season.
Spoofy
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden45 Posts
December 08 2012 09:17 GMT
#4078
Wow some sick games there, Flashes macro was scary, seriously scary.
Great games, come on TL-EG you can do it!
synaptik
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada644 Posts
December 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#4079
EGTL just not ready for the big boys no matter how much they rank themselves as #1
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 09:25:02
December 08 2012 09:24 GMT
#4080
On December 08 2012 18:17 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:30 Talin wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:24 Elite_ wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:17 Steel wrote:
Ouch. Where was the core of Liquid?

For the hundredth or so time in this thread... NASL is in 12 hours. You expect HerO or TaeJa to go to IPL5, come back to Korea for this match, and go back to California for NASL the day of this match?


A Proleague team wouldn't let their only two decent players play in some American tournament while the match was going on, would they? Pull the players from NASL and get them to grind inhouse games for their match.

It's the same story as Liquid in GSTL all over again. All show, no commitment.


Proleague teams also have big Korean sponsors which allows them to do this... This comparison is just stupid.


A team without big Korean sponsors entered Proleague, presumably to compete. Commitment is required to be competitive in Proleague. It's normal to compare them to the teams they're competing against.

How they handle the business side of it is their own problem, not mine to consider or care about. But if they're planning to do this in between flying all over the world for individual events, streaming, and other things foreign teams generally do with their players, they're going to lose. Badly.
Prev 1 202 203 204 205 206 215 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 50m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
UpATreeSC 122
Nathanias 99
JuggernautJason91
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15778
Artosis 783
ZZZero.O 76
Dota 2
capcasts304
NeuroSwarm122
League of Legends
JimRising 652
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K347
Super Smash Bros
AZ_Axe22
Other Games
summit1g6079
Grubby3013
FrodaN1413
fl0m735
shahzam652
ToD268
XaKoH 247
Maynarde159
Mew2King55
Dewaltoss40
ArmadaUGS26
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1032
BasetradeTV111
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta29
• Adnapsc2 17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22333
League of Legends
• Doublelift9941
Other Games
• imaqtpie1850
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
10h 50m
Soma vs BeSt
Wardi Open
11h 50m
OSC
1d
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 10h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 10h
Bisu vs Larva
LiuLi Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Wardi Open
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
[ Show More ]
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-09-25
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS2
IPSL Winter 2025-26
SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL 21 Team A
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.