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Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
December 03 2012 05:06 GMT
#4001
On December 03 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:02 bittman wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:02 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Tour Finals Race Distribution
5
3 (probably 4 since Seed will get the 2nd spot of PartinG for GSL point total)
1
so at least you guys will have more players in the top 8 than Terran at that tournament if it makes you feel better


And Mvp is injured and is supposed to not play any SC2 to for 3 months to fully rest. If he drops out, then they'll probably just give it to MC.


3 months!? Source on that!?!? D=


Pretty sure the IM coach or someone said a while ago that Mvp to fully heal up he'd need to take three months off of not playing.



I thought Mvp said he wouldn't do it though because if he sat out for 3 months he would never catch up. or did he change his mind?


Yeah, true.

And I guess he has to play in Code A to qualify for Code S, so he'll probably play.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2012 05:06 GMT
#4002
On December 03 2012 14:06 StarStruck wrote:
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On December 03 2012 14:04 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:04 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:02 bittman wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:02 Fionn wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:59 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL Tour Finals Race Distribution
5
3 (probably 4 since Seed will get the 2nd spot of PartinG for GSL point total)
1
so at least you guys will have more players in the top 8 than Terran at that tournament if it makes you feel better


And Mvp is injured and is supposed to not play any SC2 to for 3 months to fully rest. If he drops out, then they'll probably just give it to MC.


3 months!? Source on that!?!? D=


Pretty sure the IM coach or someone said a while ago that Mvp to fully heal up he'd need to take three months off of not playing.



I thought Mvp said he wouldn't do it though because if he sat out for 3 months he would never catch up. or did he change his mind?


A short break won't hurt especially with HotS on the way.

Honestly now is as good as any time when your wrists are constantly flared up.

yeah. Now would pretty much be the best time to do it with a new expansion coming out in just over 3 months
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 03 2012 05:06 GMT
#4003
MVP should take off when HoTS releases. Game is going to be volatile for awhile as new metagames are established may as well sit it out at the beginning.
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4004
On December 03 2012 14:06 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On December 03 2012 14:05 Laryleprakon wrote:
Cool little speech from TB

I think we need a better phrase tho 'we are stracraft' hehe

Also does Violet have to win two bo5's?

1 bo5 and 1 bo3


Just give Leenock the trophy now.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4005
On December 03 2012 14:06 thuracine wrote:
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On December 03 2012 14:00 beamingrobot wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:58 thuracine wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:55 beamingrobot wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:55 thuracine wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:51 ref4 wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:47 Mataru wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:43 TheDwf wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:43 Mataru wrote:
[quote]

Yeah it was impossible for polt to make ghosts in that game.

Not enough economy, no time, no Ghosts.


Im not talking about like 12 ghosts here, 3-4 could nullify that initial wave of infestors. I don't see how thats impossible at that stage of the game. You know zerg is gonna be making Infestors.

Was it also Dwf who said Polt didn't have the economy for ghosts on Daybreak when he was on 4 bases for quite a while? I honestly can't remember.


well it's kinda hard to EMP the infestors, as somebody pointed out before.


so it hard to emp infestors and shouldn't be tried? way to give zerg and easy way out


you must not watch a lot of games. they've tried, and failed.


failed so much that they got nerfed


huh? we're talking about post nerf amirite? or are we gonna just go back to whatever patch that is convenient for you?


just pointing out that b.c they where nerfed doesn't mean they aren't useful. infestors most likely be nerfed but they are not going to stop being used.


give them the ghost treatment: half dps on IT and fungals and you'll see if they're going to be mass
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4006
On December 03 2012 14:02 HolyArrow wrote:
Lol @ people citing BWC and WCG. That was more of a Koreans > foreigners thing rather than a Protoss thing. And yes, Yonghwa and MKP lost to foreigners, but those were obviously upsets.

In the tournaments in which we actually have almost all the top Koreans participating, we're seeing Zerg dominate pretty hard.



I don't think people are actually using those tournaments when talking about balance. But at least having a Protoss win will decrease the complaints compare to Terrans.
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4007
You know, I wonder what would happen if Blizzard reverted the queen range change.
Or reverted fungal growth back to the long duration/low dps version.

It's interesting to think about things like that.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4008
JulyZerg 2.0 fightiiiiiiiing
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Vertical
Profile Joined July 2011
Indonesia4317 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4009
wohooo twice in a row ZvZ final !!!
-Terran-
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4010
TB knows how to bring the hype. That's why he's so good with Apollo. Not to say Apollo isn't good at hype on his own... but it just works so well with TB.
tMomiji
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1115 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4011
On December 03 2012 14:06 sAsImre wrote:
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On December 03 2012 14:04 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:03 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:01 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:59 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:57 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:56 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:54 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:53 tMomiji wrote:
[quote]

That would probably be a good thing.

the sad marine fan club was closed the day it opened


How about the sad SCV? SCVs are inherently more likable. Marketing, guys, marketing. ; D


TL only promoted protoss qq. Tho they really needed it back then.


Honestly I think we still kind of do. One race is always going to be at the bottom, right? Heh...it's always been Protoss.


yup but you were really really low back then. The problem is that P are getting crushed in TvP nowadays and with the state of 3b/immo sentry vZ...


Yeah...man I remember when ghosts were giving us serious problems but I didn't want it to be so that we'd NEVER see them again...huuh.

And everyone is getting rolled over by infestors. I wish fungal slowed and didn't root. Problem solved no?


dunno it'd still kill marines but depending on the slow vikings might be useful. IT are a bigger problem imo they fuck mech so hard it's ain't funny.


Maybe a little less damage on IT? o-o


it depends, the problem is that the infestor is the key to the 3match ups so tweaking it might fuck one really bad. if it's ZvZ i don't really care but it might be bad from a spectator pov.


Well that's what we have test servers for! ^_^
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Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4012
On December 03 2012 14:06 Zebb wrote:
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On December 03 2012 14:05 Havik_ wrote:
Has Blizzard said if they're done with balance changes for WoL?


No, they've said the opposite. They're going to keep watching WoL balance even after HotS is out/the main game.



That's good to hear!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
December 03 2012 05:07 GMT
#4013
On December 03 2012 14:06 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
MVP should take off when HoTS releases. Game is going to be volatile for awhile as new metagames are established may as well sit it out at the beginning.

That's exactly what I was thinking, though the fact that he'll likely play through the end of WoL at the very least makes my wrists hurt just thinking about it
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4014
On December 03 2012 14:07 Havik_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:06 Zebb wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:05 Havik_ wrote:
Has Blizzard said if they're done with balance changes for WoL?


No, they've said the opposite. They're going to keep watching WoL balance even after HotS is out/the main game.



That's good to hear!

of course, they never said they'll be DOING anything to the balance though
just watch
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emjaytron
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia544 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4015
surely its only a matter of time till leenock wins a GSL. so consistently high level for so long
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4016
On December 03 2012 14:07 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:02 HolyArrow wrote:
Lol @ people citing BWC and WCG. That was more of a Koreans > foreigners thing rather than a Protoss thing. And yes, Yonghwa and MKP lost to foreigners, but those were obviously upsets.

In the tournaments in which we actually have almost all the top Koreans participating, we're seeing Zerg dominate pretty hard.



I don't think people are actually using those tournaments when talking about balance. But at least having a Protoss win will decrease the complaints compare to Terrans.


Mmm... true.
beamingrobot
Profile Joined October 2010
United States685 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4017
On December 03 2012 14:06 thuracine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:00 beamingrobot wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:58 thuracine wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:55 beamingrobot wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:55 thuracine wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:51 ref4 wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:49 LimitSEA wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:47 Mataru wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:43 TheDwf wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:43 Mataru wrote:
[quote]

Yeah it was impossible for polt to make ghosts in that game.

Not enough economy, no time, no Ghosts.


Im not talking about like 12 ghosts here, 3-4 could nullify that initial wave of infestors. I don't see how thats impossible at that stage of the game. You know zerg is gonna be making Infestors.

Was it also Dwf who said Polt didn't have the economy for ghosts on Daybreak when he was on 4 bases for quite a while? I honestly can't remember.


well it's kinda hard to EMP the infestors, as somebody pointed out before.


so it hard to emp infestors and shouldn't be tried? way to give zerg and easy way out


you must not watch a lot of games. they've tried, and failed.


failed so much that they got nerfed


huh? we're talking about post nerf amirite? or are we gonna just go back to whatever patch that is convenient for you?


just pointing out that b.c they where nerfed doesn't mean they aren't useful. infestors most likely be nerfed but they are not going to stop being used.


you're talking about post nerf when no T really uses them anymore. so they aren't very useful in competitive games. i'm not sure what you're harping on really. might as well say that voids are useful and toss should use them more coz they used to be op before being nerfed -.-
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4018
On December 03 2012 14:08 emjaytron wrote:
surely its only a matter of time till leenock wins a GSL. so consistently high level for so long

He should have 2 but he keeps choking
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udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4019
Leenock playing will make this ZvZ tolerable at least because he is going to pull off some great multitasking and shenanigans at some point
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
December 03 2012 05:08 GMT
#4020
On December 03 2012 14:07 tMomiji wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2012 14:06 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:04 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:03 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 14:01 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:59 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:57 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:56 sAsImre wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:54 tMomiji wrote:
On December 03 2012 13:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
[quote]
the sad marine fan club was closed the day it opened


How about the sad SCV? SCVs are inherently more likable. Marketing, guys, marketing. ; D


TL only promoted protoss qq. Tho they really needed it back then.


Honestly I think we still kind of do. One race is always going to be at the bottom, right? Heh...it's always been Protoss.


yup but you were really really low back then. The problem is that P are getting crushed in TvP nowadays and with the state of 3b/immo sentry vZ...


Yeah...man I remember when ghosts were giving us serious problems but I didn't want it to be so that we'd NEVER see them again...huuh.

And everyone is getting rolled over by infestors. I wish fungal slowed and didn't root. Problem solved no?


dunno it'd still kill marines but depending on the slow vikings might be useful. IT are a bigger problem imo they fuck mech so hard it's ain't funny.


Maybe a little less damage on IT? o-o


it depends, the problem is that the infestor is the key to the 3match ups so tweaking it might fuck one really bad. if it's ZvZ i don't really care but it might be bad from a spectator pov.


Well that's what we have test servers for! ^_^


yup, the projectile thing is really cool /w stim marines, should be entertaining at the very least :p
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