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Except DRG, I'm okay with DRG. Cuz he's got self respect 
[IPL5] Day 3 - Page 4
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GinDo
3327 Posts
Go Go Hero. Kill 'em Zergs.+ Show Spoiler + | ||
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Yello
Germany7411 Posts
On December 01 2012 16:02 Fionn wrote: polt plz pretty pretty plz | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
62 players Z: 25 (40,32%, 6,99% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) P: 17 (27,42%, -5,91% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) T: 20 (32,26%, -1,07% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) 251 games (Day 1 + Day 2) Number of games for each matchup: TvZ: 66/251 (26,29%), 23-43 (34,85% T winrate) PvZ: 69/251 (27,49%), 30-39 (43,48% P winrate) PvT: 46/251 (18,33%), 22-24 (47,83% P winrate) PvP: 15/251 (5,98%) TvT: 11/251 (4,38%) ZvZ: 44/251 (17,53%) Number of games involving: Z: 179/251 (71,31%) T: 123/251 (49,00%) P: 130/251 (51,79%) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dQT2k.png) | ||
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ELA
Denmark4608 Posts
On December 02 2012 00:46 howLiN wrote: Some stats: 62 players Z: 25 (40,32%, 6,99% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) P: 17 (27,42%, -5,91% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) T: 20 (32,26%, -1,07% deviation from the ideal 33,33%) 251 games (Day 1 + Day 2) Number of games for each matchup: TvZ: 66/251 (26,29%), 23-43 (34,85% T winrate) PvZ: 69/251 (27,49%), 30-39 (43,48% P winrate) PvT: 46/251 (18,33%), 22-24 (47,83% P winrate) PvP: 15/251 (5,98%) TvT: 11/251 (4,38%) ZvZ: 44/251 (17,53%) Number of games involving: Z: 179/251 (71,31%) T: 123/251 (49,00%) P: 130/251 (51,79%) Classic!  The race I least want to see in any matchup | ||
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mprs
Canada2933 Posts
GSL finals: Hyun vs Sniper (ZvZ) IPL Winner's bracket: Violet (Z) Polt (T) Leenock (Z) IPL Loser's bracket: Symbol (Z) Hero (P) Sniper (Z) Creator (P) Sleep (Z) Bboong (Z) TheStC (T) DRG (Z) Bomber (T) So, the final tally of players is (9Z|2P|3T). This will be a great opportunity for young and upcoming zergs to have a masterclass in ZvZ. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On December 02 2012 00:51 ELA wrote: Classic! The race I least want to see in any matchup Am I the only one who's literally forcing myself to stay unbiased? I've always preferred playing Random (albeit Toss slightly more perhaps) to experience everything evenly, and gone in with the mindset that the game is never imbalanced, it's always the players' fault, not the game. I don't care if it's true or not, but all I care about is the viewing experience, and it just sounds so abysmal reading so many angry comments about balance all the time, I couldn't care less tbh, all I want is entertaining games. If balance issues are hindering entertainment, that's one reason (also why 1/1/1 is the only build I've ever spoken out against), but other than that, from a spectator's point of view, I just think (racial) bias is terrible for yourself, cheering for specific players is probably a good thing though as it actually makes it interesting without causing rage (although perhaps grief on rare occasions). | ||
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myRZeth
Germany1047 Posts
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Encdalf
Germany66 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
But I am hoping for Sleep, Bomber, and Violet to place very well. | ||
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RHoudini
Belgium3626 Posts
Has been very useful for the past 2 days! | ||
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Stress
United States980 Posts
On December 02 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote: Am I the only one who's literally forcing myself to stay unbiased? I've always preferred playing Random (albeit Toss slightly more perhaps) to experience everything evenly, and gone in with the mindset that the game is never imbalanced, it's always the players' fault, not the game. I don't care if it's true or not, but all I care about is the viewing experience, and it just sounds so abysmal reading so many angry comments about balance all the time, I couldn't care less tbh, all I want is entertaining games. If balance issues are hindering entertainment, that's one reason (also why 1/1/1 is the only build I've ever spoken out against), but other than that, from a spectator's point of view, I just think (racial) bias is terrible for yourself, cheering for specific players is probably a good thing though as it actually makes it interesting without causing rage (although perhaps grief on rare occasions). I play random myself with Terran being my main/best race and I find it quite silly how the Infestor literally counters everything in every matchup. That is why you see all the balance talk constantly happening and when you play the game, and believe something to be fundamentally broken, it tends to take away from the entertainment aspect because you think the matchup/race/unit is imbalanced. Part of the reason a lot of people are upset is because of the time it is taking Blizzard to fix the problem. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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RedBlargh
99 Posts
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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CrazyBirdman
Germany3509 Posts
On December 02 2012 01:37 RedBlargh wrote: please Bomber, Polt, STC, and HerO prevent this from being a ZvZ fest -___- Creator might be our greatest hope with his brutal pre-hive timings. Luckily for me I like all of these non-zergs still left. Hopefully Sniper is not focused on IPL5 and HerO can pull through. | ||
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LawnMower
Sweden557 Posts
On December 02 2012 01:10 HaXXspetten wrote: Am I the only one who's literally forcing myself to stay unbiased? I've always preferred playing Random (albeit Toss slightly more perhaps) to experience everything evenly, and gone in with the mindset that the game is never imbalanced, it's always the players' fault, not the game. I don't care if it's true or not, but all I care about is the viewing experience, and it just sounds so abysmal reading so many angry comments about balance all the time, I couldn't care less tbh, all I want is entertaining games. If balance issues are hindering entertainment, that's one reason (also why 1/1/1 is the only build I've ever spoken out against), but other than that, from a spectator's point of view, I just think (racial) bias is terrible for yourself, cheering for specific players is probably a good thing though as it actually makes it interesting without causing rage (although perhaps grief on rare occasions). I might add my thoughts on the PvZ matchup (I've stopped playing a long time ago, this is purely from a spectators POV). Sometimes nice forcefields are very nice to see, but I'm annoyed by the feeling "good forcefields - protoss wins, bad forcefields - protoss looses". It's not that black and white in reality, but it feels slightly silly when so much of the match can be decided by how good one of the player's actions are. The by far the most common - and most boring - thing to happen is when the zerg is turtling to their broodlord infestor death ball. The protoss can kill them before with a slick timing, sometimes, but otherwise we'll probably have one engagement which will decide the 20+ min match. The really horrible thing is that it can be summarized: good vortex, protoss wins, bad vortex the protoss looses. One spell or one engagement deciding a match like that is the worst thing ever. It's not even about the balance, ZvP could have a 50% winrate but the matchup as it is now would still be fricking boring. | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On December 02 2012 01:40 CrazyBirdman wrote: Creator might be our greatest hope with his brutal pre-hive timings. Luckily for me I like all of these non-zergs still left. Hopefully Sniper is not focused on IPL5 and HerO can pull through. Creator is probably going to lose to Bomber | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Anyone But Zerg. Go Bomber!! | ||
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Taefox
1533 Posts
 or have Polt and bomber done TvP too good ? but watching Polt vs Creator made me feel like Creator wanted to throw game away | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
Edit: N/m, found it. Also, gogo Creator. | ||
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