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From page 85 and onwards anyone contributing to a gender discussion will face moderation.

I feel the need to remind people that balance commentary and complaints are not acceptable posts in LR topics due to the fact that they will derail any tournament topic that it is left unchecked in. If you participate in it you will be moderated.

It should also be clear that any SC2 vs LoL debates have no place in this thread.
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
November 29 2012 10:46 GMT
#221
hopefully MC and Squirtle will do well!
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
November 29 2012 11:01 GMT
#222
On November 29 2012 16:55 dynwar7 wrote:
Oh God....Polt, MMAand many many more!!!

Sad though, MvP and MKP are not participating


Yeah it sucks that MvP won't be there... I would have loved to see more lGIm players.

+ Show Spoiler +
See what I did there?
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TheBB
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Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 15:31:05
November 29 2012 11:02 GMT
#223
Hopefully this is the final bracket. I don't fancy entering all these names again.

Most likely winners:
      TaeJa: 12.23%
      Leenock: 10.98%
      Life: 9.38%
      Creator: 7.14%
      DongRaeGu: 5.97%
      Polt: 5.63%
      HerO: 4.02%
      Sniper: 3.35%
      Stephano: 3.05%
      San: 2.83%
      viOLet: 2.82%
      Symbol: 2.75%
      Bomber: 2.65%
      HyuN: 2.62%
      Seed: 2.53%
      Sleep: 1.89%

details, data source, code

+ Show Spoiler [Life expectancies] +
      TaeJa: 7.49 rounds (top 8)
      Polt: 6.72 rounds (top 8)
      San: 6.22 rounds (top 12)
      Sleep: 6.13 rounds (top 12)
      Life: 6.09 rounds (top 12)
      Leenock: 6.06 rounds (top 12)
      aLive: 5.85 rounds (top 12)
      Snute: 5.67 rounds (top 12)
      Creator: 5.63 rounds (top 12)
      DongRaeGu: 5.42 rounds (top 16)
      Crank: 5.39 rounds (top 16)
      xigua: 5.00 rounds (top 16)
      Sniper: 4.93 rounds (top 16)
      HerO: 4.80 rounds (top 16)
      HyuN: 4.66 rounds (top 16)
      Seed: 4.40 rounds (top 24)
      Stephano: 4.37 rounds (top 24)
      Symbol: 4.33 rounds (top 24)
      viOLet: 4.31 rounds (top 24)
      Bogus: 4.25 rounds (top 24)
      Scarlett: 4.25 rounds (top 24)
      Ryung: 4.24 rounds (top 24)
      Bomber: 4.13 rounds (top 24)
      MC: 4.09 rounds (top 24)
      Squirtle: 4.04 rounds (top 24)
      Nerchio: 3.82 rounds (top 24)
      LucifroN: 3.76 rounds (top 24)
      MMA: 3.47 rounds (top 32)
      TheStC: 3.36 rounds (top 32)
      Vortix: 3.35 rounds (top 32)
      Genius: 3.34 rounds (top 32)
      luvsic: 3.17 rounds (top 32)
      Byun: 3.16 rounds (top 32)
      Heart: 3.10 rounds (top 32)
      YoDa: 3.07 rounds (top 32)
      Naniwa: 2.88 rounds (top 32)
      GanZi: 2.72 rounds (top 32)
      BBoongBBoong: 2.59 rounds (top 32)
      sculp: 2.56 rounds (top 32)
      ByuL: 2.53 rounds (top 32)
      Shine: 2.44 rounds (top 40)
      Golden: 2.34 rounds (top 40)
      sLivko: 2.17 rounds (top 40)
      HwangSin: 2.06 rounds (top 40)
      HuK: 1.79 rounds (top 40)
      ToD: 1.75 rounds (top 40)
      MajOr: 1.53 rounds (top 40)
      CatZ: 1.49 rounds (top 56)
      ViBE: 1.38 rounds (top 56)
      theognis: 1.30 rounds (top 56)
      goswser: 1.22 rounds (top 56)
      MaSsan: 1.11 rounds (top 56)
      TubbyTheFat: 1.09 rounds (top 56)
      Sea: 1.01 rounds (top 56)
      TriMaster: 0.94 rounds (top 56)
      drewbie: 0.91 rounds (top 56)
      Apocalypse: 0.86 rounds (top 56)
      puCK: 0.74 rounds (top 56)
      Eifersuchtig: 0.52 rounds (top 56)
      daisuki: 0.45 rounds (top 72)
      Glon: 0.43 rounds (top 72)
      Shuttle: 0.43 rounds (top 72)
      Sasquatch: 0.30 rounds (top 72)
      Perfect: 0.23 rounds (top 72)
      Caliber: 0.15 rounds (top 72)

+ Show Spoiler [Placement probabilities] +
                  Top 72   Top 56   Top 40   Top 32   Top 24   Top 16   Top 12    Top 8    Top 6    Top 4    Top 3    Top 2      Win
HyuN: 10.22% 9.46% 21.14% 16.03% 12.03% 9.46% 6.41% 4.90% 2.98% 2.26% 2.50% 2.62%
BBoongBBoong: 33.98% 21.01% 22.14% 10.88% 5.61% 3.21% 1.46% 0.84% 0.34% 0.25% 0.18% 0.09%
Sea: 99.32% 0.67% 0.01%
Nerchio: 0.26% 14.54% 19.47% 21.80% 13.44% 9.78% 7.15% 4.58% 3.33% 1.80% 1.31% 1.32% 1.23%
puCK: 37.90% 51.94% 8.79% 1.25% 0.11% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
Creator: 0.11% 5.89% 9.25% 15.97% 13.33% 11.37% 9.91% 7.48% 6.59% 4.47% 3.74% 4.75% 7.14%
Shuttle: 61.73% 34.16% 3.69% 0.39% 0.03% 0.00%
DongRaeGu: 10.69% 8.10% 13.13% 13.27% 11.87% 10.57% 7.54% 6.38% 4.50% 3.54% 4.45% 5.97%
TubbyTheFat: 92.17% 6.76% 0.99% 0.08% 0.00% 0.00%
Byun: 29.14% 17.87% 17.68% 12.41% 8.59% 5.94% 3.15% 2.24% 1.09% 0.76% 0.66% 0.47%
Squirtle: 18.17% 12.86% 18.87% 14.77% 11.01% 8.46% 5.18% 3.67% 2.25% 1.59% 1.64% 1.53%
CatZ: 67.13% 21.22% 8.65% 2.27% 0.51% 0.17% 0.03% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
YoDa: 29.40% 14.85% 21.41% 14.09% 8.42% 5.46% 2.66% 1.69% 0.77% 0.55% 0.45% 0.26%
Sniper: 2.01% 4.09% 13.12% 17.93% 18.28% 8.93% 10.47% 6.13% 5.92% 3.58% 3.03% 3.17% 3.35%
Glon: 69.17% 21.25% 7.09% 2.01% 0.40% 0.04% 0.03% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
TheStC: 4.35% 13.29% 23.82% 20.68% 15.93% 6.45% 6.02% 3.08% 2.65% 1.27% 0.98% 0.85% 0.64%
ViBE: 24.46% 36.92% 23.15% 9.94% 3.80% 0.82% 0.56% 0.15% 0.11% 0.03% 0.03% 0.01% 0.00%
Vortix: 3.33% 22.57% 14.76% 19.98% 16.43% 6.24% 6.70% 3.13% 2.82% 1.40% 1.09% 0.92% 0.65%
Caliber: 86.94% 11.60% 0.98% 0.43% 0.05% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
Bomber: 2.10% 19.78% 12.21% 16.38% 14.28% 7.77% 8.09% 4.99% 4.42% 2.79% 2.20% 2.34% 2.65%
sLivko: 7.63% 41.57% 17.32% 15.38% 8.67% 3.48% 2.80% 1.19% 0.93% 0.41% 0.31% 0.20% 0.11%
Life: 0.89% 5.47% 5.77% 14.42% 12.67% 10.12% 10.81% 6.93% 7.48% 5.23% 4.89% 5.94% 9.38%
Perfect: 81.26% 15.57% 2.31% 0.74% 0.10% 0.01% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
HwangSin: 7.57% 39.59% 22.63% 15.54% 7.42% 3.12% 2.07% 0.73% 0.68% 0.25% 0.20% 0.13% 0.06%
HuK: 10.27% 43.73% 22.22% 13.51% 5.65% 2.12% 1.34% 0.42% 0.42% 0.12% 0.11% 0.06% 0.03%
Leenock: 2.82% 6.59% 6.56% 13.10% 11.27% 9.16% 9.54% 6.55% 7.07% 5.14% 4.83% 6.38% 10.98%
Apocalypse: 49.87% 30.75% 9.26% 6.32% 2.28% 0.72% 0.48% 0.12% 0.13% 0.04% 0.02% 0.01% 0.00%
GanZi: 11.62% 22.16% 19.25% 18.94% 11.68% 5.94% 4.19% 1.93% 1.84% 0.81% 0.67% 0.56% 0.40%
goswser: 35.69% 33.05% 15.24% 9.81% 3.76% 1.20% 0.73% 0.19% 0.19% 0.05% 0.04% 0.02% 0.01%
Ryung: 5.84% 3.65% 14.86% 23.52% 16.86% 9.75% 8.22% 4.32% 4.45% 2.12% 2.44% 2.26% 1.72%
Eifersuchtig: 71.15% 12.99% 9.89% 4.64% 1.04% 0.19% 0.08% 0.02% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
Golden: 14.95% 24.45% 21.65% 18.15% 9.29% 4.40% 3.16% 1.27% 1.25% 0.46% 0.47% 0.35% 0.16%
Genius: 8.06% 15.40% 18.97% 20.66% 12.95% 7.36% 5.77% 2.94% 2.84% 1.39% 1.44% 1.35% 0.84%
Scarlett: 3.86% 10.12% 13.05% 20.34% 16.87% 9.23% 8.14% 4.35% 4.77% 2.26% 2.72% 2.46% 1.83%
drewbie: 44.31% 34.50% 11.66% 6.47% 2.22% 0.44% 0.28% 0.05% 0.05% 0.01% 0.01% 0.00%
Naniwa: 8.17% 16.79% 22.93% 22.84% 13.57% 5.75% 4.38% 1.68% 1.75% 0.66% 0.74% 0.53% 0.22%
TriMaster: 43.66% 32.06% 14.65% 6.89% 2.04% 0.40% 0.21% 0.03% 0.04% 0.00% 0.01% 0.00%
MC: 6.18% 6.27% 14.65% 22.29% 18.56% 8.04% 7.64% 3.98% 4.23% 2.01% 2.37% 2.21% 1.58%
daisuki: 72.86% 15.07% 7.59% 3.45% 0.84% 0.10% 0.07% 0.01% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
MMA: 7.45% 18.59% 15.62% 18.40% 13.98% 7.04% 6.07% 3.35% 3.24% 1.54% 1.82% 1.69% 1.22%
Shine: 13.52% 28.07% 18.19% 16.63% 10.54% 4.56% 3.38% 1.56% 1.51% 0.59% 0.67% 0.53% 0.27%
sculp: 29.58% 25.04% 24.31% 12.84% 3.12% 2.67% 0.81% 0.92% 0.24% 0.29% 0.14% 0.04%
Symbol: 17.01% 14.49% 16.96% 15.40% 7.96% 7.29% 4.67% 4.81% 2.58% 2.87% 3.19% 2.75%
ByuL: 38.72% 22.75% 16.36% 10.22% 4.23% 3.23% 1.40% 1.40% 0.51% 0.58% 0.41% 0.18%
Bogus: 12.75% 14.14% 22.36% 14.05% 9.59% 9.77% 4.64% 4.43% 2.08% 2.35% 2.25% 1.60%
MaSsan: 90.12% 8.76% 1.03% 0.08% 0.01% 0.00%
luvsic: 21.59% 21.35% 24.74% 12.49% 6.90% 6.10% 2.25% 2.06% 0.73% 0.88% 0.64% 0.27%
LucifroN: 23.96% 11.94% 20.67% 12.83% 8.19% 8.49% 3.75% 3.78% 1.62% 1.93% 1.73% 1.10%
viOLet: 20.67% 11.87% 17.07% 12.55% 8.42% 8.58% 4.71% 4.72% 2.52% 2.92% 3.16% 2.82%
ToD: 59.85% 19.49% 12.27% 5.23% 1.51% 0.99% 0.26% 0.23% 0.05% 0.07% 0.04% 0.01%
Seed: 2.07% 10.98% 12.88% 22.07% 13.73% 9.49% 8.75% 4.87% 4.58% 2.34% 2.66% 3.02% 2.53%
Sasquatch: 76.65% 18.64% 3.27% 1.25% 0.17% 0.02% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00%
Heart: 3.84% 22.96% 19.99% 21.40% 11.63% 6.92% 5.15% 2.43% 2.12% 0.92% 1.01% 1.00% 0.64%
MajOr: 17.44% 43.05% 20.16% 12.20% 4.54% 1.45% 0.69% 0.20% 0.17% 0.04% 0.05% 0.02% 0.01%
Stephano: 16.73% 13.34% 19.84% 12.31% 8.92% 8.00% 4.87% 4.43% 2.54% 2.72% 3.25% 3.05%
theognis: 78.02% 15.99% 4.73% 1.05% 0.16% 0.04% 0.01% 0.00% 0.00% 0.00%
HerO: 12.69% 11.13% 19.93% 12.57% 9.45% 9.16% 5.38% 5.27% 2.96% 3.33% 4.10% 4.02%
TaeJa: 16.92% 12.31% 15.26% 9.89% 11.27% 7.09% 6.74% 8.30% 12.23%
Polt: 22.20% 15.02% 19.19% 10.59% 10.72% 6.02% 5.23% 5.39% 5.63%
Crank: 47.02% 12.55% 19.81% 7.33% 7.34% 2.36% 1.91% 1.11% 0.57%
xigua: 55.54% 16.37% 14.94% 4.65% 5.21% 1.32% 1.17% 0.58% 0.21%
Sleep: 33.05% 13.72% 19.09% 8.60% 10.87% 3.96% 5.09% 3.73% 1.89%
aLive: 39.74% 12.13% 18.82% 7.71% 9.81% 3.26% 4.28% 2.99% 1.26%
Snute: 40.23% 13.72% 22.53% 6.36% 7.92% 2.54% 3.47% 2.29% 0.95%
San: 31.47% 15.25% 19.88% 7.01% 9.48% 3.97% 5.38% 4.74% 2.83%

+ Show Spoiler [Most likely to be eliminated by...] +
          HyuN:        HerO ( 6.47%)    Stephano ( 5.99%)     Creator ( 5.02%)
BBoongBBoong: Golden (15.25%) Genius (13.68%) Nerchio ( 9.93%)
Sea: Ryung (38.06%) Genius (27.65%) Golden (22.74%)
Nerchio: HerO ( 6.07%) Seed ( 5.84%) HyuN ( 5.43%)
puCK: Shuttle (36.04%) Naniwa (21.88%) Scarlett (14.71%)
Creator: HerO ( 5.57%) Stephano ( 4.89%) Seed ( 4.81%)
Shuttle: puCK (56.33%) Naniwa (14.42%) Scarlett ( 9.52%)
DongRaeGu: MMA ( 5.35%) Shine ( 4.87%) Leenock ( 4.57%)
TubbyTheFat: MC (38.01%) MMA (25.02%) Shine (20.79%)
Byun: Shine (13.51%) MMA (12.43%) Symbol ( 5.27%)
Squirtle: ByuL ( 8.38%) Symbol ( 7.97%) Sleep ( 3.84%)
CatZ: sculp (37.62%) Symbol (15.31%) ByuL (14.23%)
YoDa: ByuL (17.31%) Symbol (12.83%) Byun ( 5.08%)
Sniper: TaeJa ( 5.93%) MC ( 5.27%) San ( 4.90%)
Glon: ViBE (47.79%) TheStC (21.38%) luvsic (10.88%)
TheStC: Bogus ( 6.05%) Vortix ( 5.92%) luvsic ( 5.72%)
ViBE: Glon (19.47%) luvsic (18.85%) Bogus (14.65%)
Vortix: ToD (13.39%) viOLet ( 9.04%) TheStC ( 6.20%)
Caliber: sLivko (57.05%) Bomber (29.89%) ToD ( 5.05%)
Bomber: viOLet ( 8.67%) LucifroN ( 7.24%) ToD ( 5.51%)
sLivko: LucifroN (17.96%) viOLet (15.25%) ToD ( 8.76%)
Life: TaeJa ( 4.93%) Ryung ( 4.89%) Polt ( 4.59%)
Perfect: HuK (43.50%) HwangSin (37.76%) Heart ( 5.87%)
HwangSin: Heart (15.56%) MajOr (12.32%) Seed (10.67%)
HuK: Heart (17.21%) MajOr (12.81%) Seed (12.40%)
Leenock: TaeJa ( 4.88%) Stephano ( 4.81%) Polt ( 4.55%)
Apocalypse: goswser (30.47%) GanZi (19.40%) Stephano (13.84%)
GanZi: Stephano ( 9.36%) Apocalypse ( 8.31%) theognis ( 7.38%)
goswser: Apocalypse (27.55%) Stephano (13.63%) HerO (11.46%)
Ryung: Life ( 8.47%) Leenock ( 8.00%) Naniwa ( 5.38%)
Eifersuchtig: Golden (40.90%) Genius (30.24%) BBoongBBoo ( 8.35%)
Golden: BBoongBBoo (14.93%) Eifersucht (10.13%) HyuN ( 9.98%)
Genius: BBoongBBoo ( 9.35%) HyuN ( 7.14%) Life ( 5.98%)
Scarlett: Leenock ( 6.60%) Life ( 6.49%) Nerchio ( 6.20%)
drewbie: TriMaster (29.36%) Nerchio (18.97%) Naniwa (14.96%)
Naniwa: Ryung ( 8.90%) Nerchio ( 8.23%) Genius ( 6.65%)
TriMaster: drewbie (32.57%) Nerchio (16.42%) Scarlett (11.09%)
MC: Sniper ( 6.58%) TaeJa ( 5.25%) Bomber ( 4.66%)
daisuki: Shine (41.73%) MMA (31.13%) Byun ( 7.58%)
MMA: Byun (10.45%) DongRaeGu ( 8.82%) daisuki ( 4.71%)
Shine: Byun (16.08%) DongRaeGu (11.43%) daisuki ( 9.04%)
sculp: CatZ (21.22%) MC (10.92%) Squirtle ( 8.69%)
Symbol: Squirtle ( 7.96%) YoDa ( 7.58%) TaeJa ( 5.51%)
ByuL: YoDa (19.22%) Squirtle (15.01%) Byun ( 6.33%)
Bogus: DongRaeGu ( 6.47%) TheStC ( 5.39%) ViBE ( 4.63%)
MaSsan: TheStC (37.41%) Sniper (29.42%) ViBE (18.15%)
luvsic: ViBE ( 9.53%) TheStC ( 7.74%) LucifroN ( 6.19%)
LucifroN: sLivko (13.31%) Bomber (10.66%) DongRaeGu ( 6.04%)
viOLet: Bomber ( 8.78%) sLivko ( 7.70%) Vortix ( 5.69%)
ToD: Vortix (27.04%) Bomber (18.07%) sLivko (14.12%)
Seed: Creator ( 7.66%) Nerchio ( 5.74%) HyuN ( 5.59%)
Sasquatch: MajOr (51.53%) Heart (25.12%) HwangSin ( 7.53%)
Heart: HwangSin ( 9.32%) HuK ( 8.71%) Stephano ( 5.83%)
MajOr: HwangSin (17.19%) HuK (15.23%) Sasquatch (13.70%)
Stephano: Leenock ( 7.07%) Creator ( 7.06%) HyuN ( 5.89%)
theognis: GanZi (34.41%) Leenock (18.11%) goswser (17.80%)
HerO: Creator ( 7.74%) HyuN ( 6.33%) Leenock ( 6.24%)
TaeJa: Leenock ( 6.03%) Polt ( 5.36%) Life ( 5.21%)
Polt: Leenock ( 7.74%) TaeJa ( 7.52%) Life ( 6.88%)
Crank: Creator ( 9.77%) Seed ( 8.75%) HerO ( 7.86%)
xigua: Bogus ( 8.63%) DongRaeGu ( 7.93%) viOLet ( 6.63%)
Sleep: DongRaeGu ( 9.01%) Squirtle ( 6.81%) Creator ( 5.37%)
aLive: HyuN (10.15%) Creator ( 9.81%) HerO ( 6.56%)
Snute: Life (12.83%) Leenock (11.42%) TaeJa ( 6.41%)
San: Sniper ( 7.39%) TaeJa ( 6.93%) Leenock ( 6.01%)

+ Show Spoiler [Most likely to be sent to the losers b…] +
          HyuN:  BBoongBBoo (31.55%)     Creator (25.15%)       TaeJa (17.17%)
BBoongBBoong: HyuN (67.88%) Creator (14.90%) Nerchio ( 7.69%)
Sea: BBoongBBoo (99.43%) HyuN ( 0.57%) Creator ( 0.00%)
Nerchio: Creator (57.25%) HyuN (13.46%) TaeJa (11.24%)
puCK: Nerchio (94.30%) Creator ( 5.41%) HyuN ( 0.16%)
Creator: Nerchio (35.15%) TaeJa (18.32%) HyuN (17.84%)
Shuttle: Creator (97.97%) Nerchio ( 1.85%) HyuN ( 0.08%)
DongRaeGu: Byun (32.63%) Polt (17.08%) Squirtle (13.87%)
TubbyTheFat: DongRaeGu (97.36%) Byun ( 2.49%) Squirtle ( 0.07%)
Byun: DongRaeGu (64.74%) Squirtle (10.48%) Polt ( 9.77%)
Squirtle: YoDa (32.05%) DongRaeGu (19.74%) CatZ (16.12%)
CatZ: Squirtle (83.89%) YoDa (12.26%) DongRaeGu ( 2.18%)
YoDa: Squirtle (51.83%) DongRaeGu (20.10%) Polt ( 9.72%)
Sniper: TheStC (27.26%) Bomber (12.95%) Crank ( 9.55%)
Glon: Sniper (91.66%) TheStC ( 5.38%) ViBE ( 1.61%)
TheStC: Sniper (40.01%) ViBE (26.61%) Bomber ( 8.34%)
ViBE: TheStC (73.39%) Sniper (19.67%) Bomber ( 2.22%)
Vortix: Bomber (38.37%) Sniper (14.94%) sLivko (13.88%)
Caliber: Vortix (93.33%) Bomber ( 4.27%) sLivko ( 2.04%)
Bomber: sLivko (33.35%) Vortix (23.84%) Sniper (12.50%)
sLivko: Bomber (66.65%) Vortix (17.25%) Sniper ( 6.30%)
Life: Leenock (26.15%) HwangSin (12.26%) HuK ( 8.97%)
Perfect: Life (95.89%) HwangSin ( 1.88%) HuK ( 1.64%)
HwangSin: HuK (45.78%) Life (39.77%) Leenock ( 7.34%)
HuK: HwangSin (54.22%) Life (34.90%) Leenock ( 5.61%)
Leenock: Life (22.57%) GanZi (16.38%) Apocalypse (14.28%)
Apocalypse: Leenock (85.72%) GanZi ( 6.76%) Life ( 3.23%)
GanZi: Leenock (41.65%) goswser (32.32%) Life (11.91%)
goswser: GanZi (67.68%) Leenock (23.41%) Life ( 4.14%)
Ryung: Genius (24.50%) Golden (13.86%) Eifersucht (13.53%)
Eifersuchtig: Ryung (86.47%) Genius ( 6.76%) Golden ( 4.41%)
Golden: Genius (59.01%) Ryung (21.58%) Scarlett ( 6.22%)
Genius: Golden (40.98%) Ryung (26.53%) Scarlett ( 9.10%)
Scarlett: Naniwa (23.33%) drewbie (17.72%) Ryung (13.19%)
drewbie: Scarlett (82.28%) Naniwa ( 9.77%) Ryung ( 2.28%)
Naniwa: Scarlett (38.60%) TriMaster (24.75%) Ryung ( 9.85%)
TriMaster: Naniwa (75.25%) Scarlett (17.01%) drewbie ( 2.32%)
MC: MMA (25.67%) Shine (15.13%) daisuki (13.39%)
daisuki: MC (86.62%) MMA ( 6.80%) Shine ( 4.59%)
MMA: Shine (41.42%) MC (25.10%) Symbol ( 8.53%)
Shine: MMA (58.58%) MC (20.71%) Symbol ( 6.00%)
sculp: Symbol (48.47%) ByuL (21.68%) MC ( 9.63%)
Symbol: ByuL (35.11%) sculp (16.42%) MC (10.00%)
ByuL: Symbol (64.89%) sculp (13.43%) MC ( 5.88%)
Bogus: luvsic (37.29%) viOLet (14.66%) LucifroN (13.06%)
MaSsan: Bogus (94.86%) luvsic ( 4.72%) LucifroN ( 0.19%)
luvsic: Bogus (57.57%) viOLet (12.61%) LucifroN (11.81%)
LucifroN: viOLet (44.96%) Bogus (14.25%) Snute ( 9.87%)
viOLet: LucifroN (31.26%) ToD (23.78%) Bogus (11.30%)
ToD: viOLet (76.22%) LucifroN (16.31%) Bogus ( 3.07%)
Seed: Heart (27.95%) HerO (17.18%) Stephano (13.65%)
Sasquatch: Seed (92.98%) Heart ( 4.48%) MajOr ( 1.66%)
Heart: Seed (37.28%) MajOr (29.85%) HerO (10.83%)
MajOr: Heart (70.15%) Seed (21.19%) HerO ( 3.50%)
Stephano: HerO (45.11%) Seed (12.14%) theognis (10.79%)
theognis: Stephano (89.21%) HerO ( 9.66%) Seed ( 0.58%)
HerO: Stephano (44.12%) Seed (14.87%) San (11.84%)
TaeJa: Creator (21.98%) HyuN (14.46%) Polt (11.02%)
Polt: DongRaeGu (25.04%) TaeJa (15.36%) Squirtle (12.30%)
Crank: Sniper (24.38%) Bomber (17.35%) Vortix (11.43%)
xigua: Life (34.15%) Leenock (33.14%) GanZi ( 6.02%)
Sleep: Scarlett (17.89%) Ryung (16.47%) Genius (10.00%)
aLive: Symbol (18.48%) MC (15.86%) MMA (11.61%)
Snute: viOLet (19.01%) Bogus (17.97%) LucifroN (15.19%)
San: HerO (20.14%) Seed (16.38%) Stephano (15.83%)
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 12:47:35
November 29 2012 12:47 GMT
#224
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines.aspx?type=league&sport=e sports&league=sc2 ign prol&periods=1

so, taking a look at the odds, these are the bets that i like:

(Z)BBoongBBoong > (T)Sea @ 1.840
(P)Creator 2:0 (P)Shuttle @ 2.030
(Z)ViBE > (T)TheStC @ 3.710
(Z)sLivko > (T)Bomber @ 3.610
(Z)Leenock 2:0 (T)Apocalypse @ 1.800
(Z)Shine > (T)MMA @ 1.758
(Z)ByuL > (Z)Symbol @ 2.410
(T)Heart 2:0 (T)MajOr @ 2.840
(T)MajOr > (T)Heart @ 2.580
(P)HerO 2:0 (T)Sting @ 2.600
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NanowaX
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany190 Posts
November 29 2012 12:55 GMT
#225
polt, bomber, mma <3 sadly no mvp and mkp, but mkp made definitely the right decision!! i want to see polt vs mma anywhere in the elimination bracket pls!!! revenge for super tournament!! and pls MMA MAKE A COMEBACK! My heart says yes but head more than just no and unlikely!
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 29 2012 12:56 GMT
#226
I wouldn't bet on sLivko he's not that good in ZvT. Quite a bit worse than his ZvP and ZvZ imho, he regularly loses to Euro Terrans.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 29 2012 12:57 GMT
#227
On November 29 2012 21:56 StarVe wrote:
I wouldn't bet on sLivko he's not that good in ZvT. Quite a bit worse than his ZvP and ZvZ imho, he regularly loses to Euro Terrans.

yeah, but bomber's not that good at it either, losing to scarlett, violet and moonglade in recent international encounters (he did beat slivko though haha). i think 3.61 odds are alright :p
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DameHixxi
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United Kingdom51 Posts
November 29 2012 13:01 GMT
#228
Hooray IPL is at a reasonable time for me so I can sit down and watching after work. Yeeeees.
"Nope nope nope nope nope."
Seranius
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark12 Posts
November 29 2012 13:11 GMT
#229
On November 29 2012 21:47 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines.aspx?type=league&sport=e sports&league=sc2 ign prol&periods=1

so, taking a look at the odds, these are the bets that i like:

(Z)BBoongBBoong > (T)Sea @ 1.840
(P)Creator 2:0 (P)Shuttle @ 2.030
(Z)ViBE > (T)TheStC @ 3.710
(Z)sLivko > (T)Bomber @ 3.610
(Z)Leenock 2:0 (T)Apocalypse @ 1.800
(Z)Shine > (T)MMA @ 1.758
(Z)ByuL > (Z)Symbol @ 2.410
(T)Heart 2:0 (T)MajOr @ 2.840
(T)MajOr > (T)Heart @ 2.580
(P)HerO 2:0 (T)Sting @ 2.600



I like the Bboong, Creator, Leenock and Hero bets, however there are also some of them I don't like

I understand why you like Slivko, but I agree somewhat with the bookmakers line there, as Bomber should be heavy favored in that match. Shine > MMA is such a weird match, and even though MMA has looked nowhere near his old form for a long while, I can't get myself to bet against the once upon a time best TvZ'er going up against Shine.

By the way how come you bet Heart > Major 2-0 and Major > Heart moneyline? If you split your risk so you get the same winnings no matter if Major wins or Heart wins 2-0, you get the odds of 1,35 for Heart not winning 2-1. In order for this to be a valuebet, you have to give the Heart 2-1 result no more than 25% chance. Personally, I don't like that bet

The only bet I like that you didn't mention is: Violet -1,5 > Tod 1,77.
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
November 29 2012 13:15 GMT
#230
someone told me that the first day of IPL 5 isn't going to be free HD, can anyone confirm this?
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 13:19:10
November 29 2012 13:17 GMT
#231
On November 29 2012 21:57 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 21:56 StarVe wrote:
I wouldn't bet on sLivko he's not that good in ZvT. Quite a bit worse than his ZvP and ZvZ imho, he regularly loses to Euro Terrans.

yeah, but bomber's not that good at it either, losing to scarlett, violet and moonglade in recent international encounters (he did beat slivko though haha). i think 3.61 odds are alright :p

You're right they're probably good odds, but I still wouldn't bet on it, because in my mind there's no doubt that Bomber will win. For me, sLivko just doesn't seem like the right guy to beat him. If it were Snute, I'd take these odds immediately.

@Zelniq: I haven't heard anything about such a move, don't think that'd make much sense, but we'll see. I don't think it's true, though.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 29 2012 13:19 GMT
#232
On November 29 2012 22:11 Seranius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 21:47 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines.aspx?type=league&sport=e sports&league=sc2 ign prol&periods=1

so, taking a look at the odds, these are the bets that i like:

(Z)BBoongBBoong > (T)Sea @ 1.840
(P)Creator 2:0 (P)Shuttle @ 2.030
(Z)ViBE > (T)TheStC @ 3.710
(Z)sLivko > (T)Bomber @ 3.610
(Z)Leenock 2:0 (T)Apocalypse @ 1.800
(Z)Shine > (T)MMA @ 1.758
(Z)ByuL > (Z)Symbol @ 2.410
(T)Heart 2:0 (T)MajOr @ 2.840
(T)MajOr > (T)Heart @ 2.580
(P)HerO 2:0 (T)Sting @ 2.600



I like the Bboong, Creator, Leenock and Hero bets, however there are also some of them I don't like

I understand why you like Slivko, but I agree somewhat with the bookmakers line there, as Bomber should be heavy favored in that match. Shine > MMA is such a weird match, and even though MMA has looked nowhere near his old form for a long while, I can't get myself to bet against the once upon a time best TvZ'er going up against Shine.

By the way how come you bet Heart > Major 2-0 and Major > Heart moneyline? If you split your risk so you get the same winnings no matter if Major wins or Heart wins 2-0, you get the odds of 1,35 for Heart not winning 2-1. In order for this to be a valuebet, you have to give the Heart 2-1 result no more than 25% chance. Personally, I don't like that bet

The only bet I like that you didn't mention is: Violet -1,5 > Tod 1,77.

i don't actually personally put any money on sc2 - these are just the odds which i feel are pretty good. i wouldn't put money on both of the major/heart results if i did, but i think they're both reasonable odds individually.
MMA is well under 30% TvZ postpatch, and Shine is a good (if otherwise unremarkable) korean zerg :p
I can understand bomber > slivko, i guess.
i agree violet 2:0 tod is a decent bet @ 1.77
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Seranius
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark12 Posts
November 29 2012 13:26 GMT
#233
On November 29 2012 22:19 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 22:11 Seranius wrote:
On November 29 2012 21:47 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines.aspx?type=league&sport=e sports&league=sc2 ign prol&periods=1

so, taking a look at the odds, these are the bets that i like:

(Z)BBoongBBoong > (T)Sea @ 1.840
(P)Creator 2:0 (P)Shuttle @ 2.030
(Z)ViBE > (T)TheStC @ 3.710
(Z)sLivko > (T)Bomber @ 3.610
(Z)Leenock 2:0 (T)Apocalypse @ 1.800
(Z)Shine > (T)MMA @ 1.758
(Z)ByuL > (Z)Symbol @ 2.410
(T)Heart 2:0 (T)MajOr @ 2.840
(T)MajOr > (T)Heart @ 2.580
(P)HerO 2:0 (T)Sting @ 2.600



I like the Bboong, Creator, Leenock and Hero bets, however there are also some of them I don't like

I understand why you like Slivko, but I agree somewhat with the bookmakers line there, as Bomber should be heavy favored in that match. Shine > MMA is such a weird match, and even though MMA has looked nowhere near his old form for a long while, I can't get myself to bet against the once upon a time best TvZ'er going up against Shine.

By the way how come you bet Heart > Major 2-0 and Major > Heart moneyline? If you split your risk so you get the same winnings no matter if Major wins or Heart wins 2-0, you get the odds of 1,35 for Heart not winning 2-1. In order for this to be a valuebet, you have to give the Heart 2-1 result no more than 25% chance. Personally, I don't like that bet

The only bet I like that you didn't mention is: Violet -1,5 > Tod 1,77.

i don't actually personally put any money on sc2 - these are just the odds which i feel are pretty good. i wouldn't put money on both of the major/heart results if i did, but i think they're both reasonable odds individually.
MMA is well under 30% TvZ postpatch, and Shine is a good (if otherwise unremarkable) korean zerg :p
I can understand bomber > slivko, i guess.
i agree violet 2:0 tod is a decent bet @ 1.77


Ah okay, my bad I've just seen you post betting lines before, so thought you did.

Yes MMA is definitely well below 30% TvZ, and your bet is definitely the right one in this case, I just think it's sad that it is the right one

And I kind of agree with your Heart - Major explanation, I just think it's way too hard to predict, so I would not bet on that one.
jarod
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania766 Posts
November 29 2012 13:29 GMT
#234
On November 29 2012 08:33 ne0lith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 07:22 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
What about the EG guys ?


Most of them are going to Incontrol's wedding.


Will it be streamed?


Yeah... we want stream on this, with Day9 and Artosis as casters!

btw: congratz to Incontrol
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Zer atai
Profile Joined September 2011
United States691 Posts
November 29 2012 13:37 GMT
#235
I am very excited for this.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
November 29 2012 13:42 GMT
#236
On November 29 2012 22:29 jarod wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 08:33 ne0lith wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:22 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
What about the EG guys ?


Most of them are going to Incontrol's wedding.


Will it be streamed?


Yeah... we want stream on this, with Day9 and Artosis as casters!

btw: congratz to Incontrol


incontrol killing esports by getting married during most packed time of the tournament year ^_^
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StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
November 29 2012 13:51 GMT
#237
On November 29 2012 22:42 mikedebo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 22:29 jarod wrote:
On November 29 2012 08:33 ne0lith wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:22 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 29 2012 07:21 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
What about the EG guys ?


Most of them are going to Incontrol's wedding.


Will it be streamed?


Yeah... we want stream on this, with Day9 and Artosis as casters!

btw: congratz to Incontrol


incontrol killing esports by getting married during most packed time of the tournament year ^_^

They even rescheduled the wedding to one week later than originally planned, so he could go to DreamHack, iirc. The things we do for esports.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 29 2012 14:11 GMT
#238
It starts in the middle of my work day.

Fuck.
Mozzery
Profile Joined January 2012
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-29 14:26:51
November 29 2012 14:13 GMT
#239
On November 29 2012 22:11 Seranius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 21:47 opterown wrote:
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines.aspx?type=league&sport=e sports&league=sc2 ign prol&periods=1

so, taking a look at the odds, these are the bets that i like:

(Z)BBoongBBoong > (T)Sea @ 1.840
(P)Creator 2:0 (P)Shuttle @ 2.030
(Z)ViBE > (T)TheStC @ 3.710
(Z)sLivko > (T)Bomber @ 3.610
(Z)Leenock 2:0 (T)Apocalypse @ 1.800
(Z)Shine > (T)MMA @ 1.758
(Z)ByuL > (Z)Symbol @ 2.410
(T)Heart 2:0 (T)MajOr @ 2.840
(T)MajOr > (T)Heart @ 2.580
(P)HerO 2:0 (T)Sting @ 2.600



I like the Bboong, Creator, Leenock and Hero bets, however there are also some of them I don't like

I understand why you like Slivko, but I agree somewhat with the bookmakers line there, as Bomber should be heavy favored in that match. Shine > MMA is such a weird match, and even though MMA has looked nowhere near his old form for a long while, I can't get myself to bet against the once upon a time best TvZ'er going up against Shine.

By the way how come you bet Heart > Major 2-0 and Major > Heart moneyline? If you split your risk so you get the same winnings no matter if Major wins or Heart wins 2-0, you get the odds of 1,35 for Heart not winning 2-1. In order for this to be a valuebet, you have to give the Heart 2-1 result no more than 25% chance. Personally, I don't like that bet

The only bet I like that you didn't mention is: Violet -1,5 > Tod 1,77.



OK, I'm a little confused, these are money lines bet if I recall correctly, not odds, and that means that all of the payouts here are HORRIBLE if it's an actual money line. Money line bets have 100 set as even odds, and this seems really weird that it would list these kinds of numbers under $ line...

EDIT: Pinnacle might be using European odds, forgot about them, then it makes sense, but geez, Life 1.26 for 2-0 against Perfect is odds even Perfect would bet on. Life is being only given an 80% implied odds chance to 2-0 Perfect? DRG only a 75% chance to 2-0 Tubby? This seems like the kind of odds you'd never see in physical sports for such prohibitive favorites. It's beautiful odds if I could legally bet on them...
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kimchikid
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
November 29 2012 14:16 GMT
#240
What does handicap means?

-1,5 = you must win 2-0
+1,5 = win one map is enough

Correctly understood?

Is Pinnacle sports credible company?
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