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[WCS] Global Finals Day 2 - Page 4

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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 17 2012 13:45 GMT
#61
Scarlett - IdrA for Grand Finals, awesome!
hundred thousand krouner
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 17 2012 13:46 GMT
#62
On November 17 2012 22:43 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 22:37 EU.Pink wrote:
On November 17 2012 22:29 ES.Genie wrote:
Oh Idra fanboys. He wins 2 ZvZs and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament...


If he beat hero twice you would just say "Oh Idra fanboys. He wins imbalanced matchup and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament..."

No, I would say "He won 2 fucking matches, get over yourself.". Because of bullshit like this we have a new "best player in the world" every couple days.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354772
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
November 17 2012 13:47 GMT
#63
On November 17 2012 22:43 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 22:37 EU.Pink wrote:
On November 17 2012 22:29 ES.Genie wrote:
Oh Idra fanboys. He wins 2 ZvZs and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament...


If he beat hero twice you would just say "Oh Idra fanboys. He wins imbalanced matchup and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament..."

No, I would say "He won 2 fucking matches, get over yourself.". Because of bullshit like this we have a new "best player in the world" every couple days.


What crawled up your butt? Can't people root for a favorite player? Go back to the dark little pit you came from please.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 17 2012 13:48 GMT
#64
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/League/E Sports/SC2BatNetWCh/1/Lines.aspx

i'd take:
scarlett > parting @ 3.01
sen > curious @ 2.97
babyknight > hero @3.16
lucifron > vortix @ 2.10
creator -1.5 > illusion @1.971
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
November 17 2012 13:51 GMT
#65
Rain lost a PvP against Babyknight? I've lost all hope in SC2
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
November 17 2012 13:54 GMT
#66
On November 17 2012 22:44 Elite_ wrote:
5 Koreans, 3 Americans, 2 Spaniards, 1: Canadian, Belorussian, Taiwanesian, Dane, Russian, and Chilean...

Who said Americans were bad? One of them even 4-0'd the Group of Death. ;o


So 300 million Americans managed to produce better players than 40 million spaniards?Impressive

That being said, its a very impressive (and surprising) result indeed.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
November 17 2012 13:55 GMT
#67
creator parting and curious should win easily against their ro16 opponents, dont know past that tho
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
November 17 2012 13:59 GMT
#68
On November 17 2012 22:43 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 22:37 EU.Pink wrote:
On November 17 2012 22:29 ES.Genie wrote:
Oh Idra fanboys. He wins 2 ZvZs and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament...


If he beat hero twice you would just say "Oh Idra fanboys. He wins imbalanced matchup and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament..."

No, I would say "He won 2 fucking matches, get over yourself.". Because of bullshit like this we have a new "best player in the world" every couple days.

Uhm, we have a new 'best player in the world' every couple of days because it's hard to be consistent in SC2, not because the community says so, get your facts straight. Also nobody expected IdrA to perform so well, especially in such a group, so it's unsurprising people express excitement about his performance. If the magnitude of it aggravates you, you can just leave the thread.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#69
16-man single elimination bracket

Most likely winners:
      Creator: 28.81%
      By.Rain: 21.86%
      Parting: 12.94%
      Curious: 10.67%
      HerO: 8.98%
      Scarlett: 4.40%
      LucifroN: 2.96%
      Sen: 2.78%
      TITAN: 2.37%
      Vortix: 1.95%
      LoWeLy: 0.98%
      Suppy: 0.52%
      BabyKnight: 0.36%
      dKilleR: 0.20%
      IdrA: 0.19%
      Illusion: 0.03%

Life expectancy:
      Creator: 2.31 rounds (lose in the semifinals)
      By.Rain: 2.08 rounds (lose in the semifinals)
      Parting: 1.48 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      HerO: 1.43 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      Curious: 1.34 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      TITAN: 0.99 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      Scarlett: 0.82 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      LucifroN: 0.81 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      LoWeLy: 0.75 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      Vortix: 0.67 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      Sen: 0.66 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      Suppy: 0.60 rounds (lose in the quarterfinals)
      dKilleR: 0.40 rounds (lose in the round of 16)
      BabyKnight: 0.34 rounds (lose in the round of 16)
      IdrA: 0.22 rounds (lose in the round of 16)
      Illusion: 0.10 rounds (lose in the round of 16)
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
November 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#70
On November 17 2012 21:35 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On November 17 2012 21:20 opterown wrote:
On November 17 2012 21:19 Dodgin wrote:
Once the ro16 is set can we get a new poll with the players left?

yup that's what C is for :D

Big thx to opti for his well done OPs!


Big thanks!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 14:06:41
November 17 2012 14:05 GMT
#71
On November 17 2012 23:02 TheBB wrote:
16-man single elimination bracket

Most likely winners:
--snip--

IdrA's chances have tripled since he 4-0'd. :O

Also, the life expectancy thing seems weird. Nobody is expected to make it into the finals, and only 4 people are expected to lose in the RO16 at the same time?
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Gonlyrush22
Profile Joined September 2011
56 Posts
November 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#72
I Bet for:

Scarlett
Suppy
Sen
HerO
Rain
TitaN
LucifroN
Creator
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
November 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#73
On November 17 2012 23:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 23:02 TheBB wrote:
16-man single elimination bracket

Most likely winners:
--snip--

IdrA's chances have tripled since he 4-0'd. :O

Also, the life expectancy thing seems weird. Nobody is expected to make it into the finals, and only 4 people are expected to lose in the RO16 at the same time?


Mathematically it makes sence, even with 75% chances of winning each round your chance of winning 3 in a row are (0.75)³ = =0.421875, so below 50%. Noone is expected to win three times in a row; the possibility of winning 2 times after already having won one game (starting a new calculation at that point) are higher though, so eventually someone will be expected to make the final.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#74
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Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Gonlyrush22
Profile Joined September 2011
56 Posts
November 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#75
On November 17 2012 22:23 OKMarius wrote:
So boring with the lack of terrans. PvZ is so bad compared to TvZ and TvP



The best Terran in Europe is here, and his TvZ are Insane... check tomorrow, Lucifron Hope.

Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
November 17 2012 14:17 GMT
#76
On November 17 2012 22:46 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 22:43 ES.Genie wrote:
On November 17 2012 22:37 EU.Pink wrote:
On November 17 2012 22:29 ES.Genie wrote:
Oh Idra fanboys. He wins 2 ZvZs and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament...


If he beat hero twice you would just say "Oh Idra fanboys. He wins imbalanced matchup and suddenly is a top contender to win this tournament..."

No, I would say "He won 2 fucking matches, get over yourself.". Because of bullshit like this we have a new "best player in the world" every couple days.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354772


Leenock pulls off his mask, it's IdrA all along.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
MartinN
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain307 Posts
November 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#77
brothers fight
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 14:32:27
November 17 2012 14:24 GMT
#78
On November 17 2012 23:05 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 23:02 TheBB wrote:
16-man single elimination bracket

Most likely winners:
--snip--

Also, the life expectancy thing seems weird. Nobody is expected to make it into the finals, and only 4 people are expected to lose in the RO16 at the same time?

Yeah, Xoronius hit the nail on the head.

You need to be an overwhelming favourite to expect to win. Of course there is a probability 100% that someone will win.

Consider this thought experiment: what if all 16 players were equally good? Then they would all have the same life expectancy (lose in the quarter finals I believe). It makes more sense then. They can't all be expected to win, and if one is exected to win, then they all must be (by symmetry).
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
November 17 2012 14:29 GMT
#79
On November 17 2012 23:16 Gonlyrush22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 22:23 OKMarius wrote:
So boring with the lack of terrans. PvZ is so bad compared to TvZ and TvP



The best Terran in Europe is here, and his TvZ are Insane... check tomorrow, Lucifron Hope.



Yeah there is a serious lack of foreign terrans its depressing. I sincerely hope this patch changes that with the help of Bogus "innovating" some sick new timings to copy.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3346 Posts
November 17 2012 14:35 GMT
#80
I guess I will be up till about 5-6am tonight lol
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