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MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8501
On November 17 2012 21:03 Maesy wrote:
If Idra beats Rain somehow he really needs to go play in Code S again.

When did Idra play in Code S?
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
Shikada
Profile Joined May 2012
Serbia976 Posts
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8502
On November 17 2012 21:04 notmoose wrote:
Weird bracket system. I don't quite understand the reasoning behind doing Stephano vs Hero again and Vibe vs Vortix. Is it so that games are not being lost on purpose?


Trolling or serious question?

Stop this throwing games nonsense. Those are pretty serious accusation and people just fling them around like idiots.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8503
On November 17 2012 21:05 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:03 KimJongChill wrote:
omg it's 100k for first place?? insane...a shame only 7 koreans werer allowed lol.


They all tried they just didnt qualify.


There were only 6 spots in WCS asia and Koreans won all 6 of them ;o

then creator from WCS KR
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8504
Speaking of which :O has anyone seen the size of the crowd and have a photo? Missed it meself!
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:06:25
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8505
babyknight to win the whole thing with only PvP, apart from curious/sen obv
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
November 17 2012 12:05 GMT
#8506
Creator getting to semis atleast, for sure.
Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#8507
On November 17 2012 21:05 leo23 wrote:
yo anyone know when grubby is playin


Now
hundred thousand krouner
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#8508
Poll: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

Stephano (528)
 
24%

Rain (515)
 
23%

IdrA (256)
 
11%

Creator (156)
 
7%

Other (150)
 
7%

Scarlett (138)
 
6%

Nerchio (117)
 
5%

HerO (96)
 
4%

A Terran (77)
 
3%

Grubby (76)
 
3%

PartinG (63)
 
3%

Sen (62)
 
3%

2234 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Scarlett
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): A Terran
(Vote): Other



that poll. would have been funny if both stephano and rain went out in group stages.
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
November 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#8509
On November 17 2012 21:05 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:03 Maesy wrote:
If Idra beats Rain somehow he really needs to go play in Code S again.

When did Idra play in Code S?

January 2011 and January 2012.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
November 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#8510
On November 17 2012 21:04 notmoose wrote:
Weird bracket system. I don't quite understand the reasoning behind doing Stephano vs Hero again and Vibe vs Vortix. Is it so that games are not being lost on purpose?


It's not really a group system, it's an double elimination bracket with first two players advancing
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
November 17 2012 12:06 GMT
#8511
Apollo promoting drug use. I'm emailing sponsors.
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
November 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#8512
On November 17 2012 21:04 notmoose wrote:
Weird bracket system. I don't quite understand the reasoning behind doing Stephano vs Hero again and Vibe vs Vortix. Is it so that games are not being lost on purpose?

It's the GSL group phase system, basically a double-elim mini bracket. The advantage is that you always have a fixed amount of games played, so unlike round robin you avoid tie breakers.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#8513
On November 17 2012 21:05 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:03 Maesy wrote:
If Idra beats Rain somehow he really needs to go play in Code S again.

When did Idra play in Code S?


First few seasons of GSL then he withdrew from GSL and left Korea and then returned to get a Code S invite awhile later which he took and lost his way out rather quickly.
frogrubdown
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:09:08
November 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#8514
On November 17 2012 21:00 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:58 frogrubdown wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
And this is why players don't throw games. Nothing is ever set in stone.

Those conspiracy theorists were pretty sad.


Whether or not things are set in stone is pretty irrelevant to whether or not it would ever be rational to throw a game in this format. It's easy enough to construct reasonable probability distributions for which it would give you the best chance.


Nothing being set in stone is pretty relevant to whether or not you throw a game.

In any kind of competition where luck and skill go hand in hand, no matter what the probabilities are, it's incredibly risky to even try to throw games.


I don't understand what the point about luck and skill is. If you're talking about the added risk of getting caught then, yeah, that's worth considering. But solely from the vantage point of maximizing your chance of winning, going to probabilities still allows for optimal strategies of throwing.

For instance, suppose you have 100% chance of winning the winners match if you try (unrealistic, but winners match probability doesn't matter for this point) and a 30% chance of winning the ro16 match that results from that win. Next suppose a 70% chance of winning for both the losers match and the ro16 match that results from that win.

Then you would increase your chances of making the ro8 from 30% to 49%. You're still more likely than not to lose with this strategy, but even if one tried it and failed that wouldn't show that it is irrational. And it certainly wouldn't show that it is in principle irrational to throw games if you're only goal is winning the tournament.
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
November 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#8515
On November 17 2012 21:06 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:05 MrKn4rz wrote:
On November 17 2012 21:03 Maesy wrote:
If Idra beats Rain somehow he really needs to go play in Code S again.

When did Idra play in Code S?

January 2011 and January 2012.


He got to Ro8 in one of them I believe and lost to Jinro. ZvT on Jungle : /
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Zheryn
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3653 Posts
November 17 2012 12:07 GMT
#8516
On November 17 2012 21:05 MrKn4rz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:03 Maesy wrote:
If Idra beats Rain somehow he really needs to go play in Code S again.

When did Idra play in Code S?


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IdrA/Results#Global_StarCraft_League
hundred thousand krouner
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 17 2012 12:08 GMT
#8517
On November 17 2012 21:06 Dodgin wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

Stephano (528)
 
24%

Rain (515)
 
23%

IdrA (256)
 
11%

Creator (156)
 
7%

Other (150)
 
7%

Scarlett (138)
 
6%

Nerchio (117)
 
5%

HerO (96)
 
4%

A Terran (77)
 
3%

Grubby (76)
 
3%

PartinG (63)
 
3%

Sen (62)
 
3%

2234 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Scarlett
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): A Terran
(Vote): Other



that poll. would have been funny if both stephano and rain went out in group stages.


Good time to quote myself.

On November 16 2012 20:31 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2012 19:17 opterown wrote:
On November 14 2012 14:18 opterown wrote:
Poll: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

Stephano (528)
 
24%

Rain (515)
 
23%

IdrA (256)
 
11%

Creator (156)
 
7%

Other (150)
 
7%

Scarlett (138)
 
6%

Nerchio (117)
 
5%

HerO (96)
 
4%

A Terran (77)
 
3%

Grubby (76)
 
3%

PartinG (63)
 
3%

Sen (62)
 
3%

2234 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the WCS Global Finals?

(Vote): Rain
(Vote): Stephano
(Vote): Creator
(Vote): PartinG
(Vote): HerO
(Vote): Scarlett
(Vote): IdrA
(Vote): Nerchio
(Vote): Grubby
(Vote): Sen
(Vote): A Terran
(Vote): Other


aaaandd stephano overtakes rain for the first time


Joke poll.

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gingerfluffmuff
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria4570 Posts
November 17 2012 12:08 GMT
#8518
I always cringe when the casters talk about how good nerchio / scarlett are. Their ZvZ is really miles behind compared to Group Z.
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freerolll
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Belgium1056 Posts
November 17 2012 12:08 GMT
#8519
On November 17 2012 21:05 leo23 wrote:
yo anyone know when grubby is playin



he is atm on stream 2 or 3 cant remember
Always give without remembering & always receive without forgetting.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:10:05
November 17 2012 12:09 GMT
#8520
On November 17 2012 21:05 Shikada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:04 notmoose wrote:
Weird bracket system. I don't quite understand the reasoning behind doing Stephano vs Hero again and Vibe vs Vortix. Is it so that games are not being lost on purpose?


Trolling or serious question?

Stop this throwing games nonsense. Those are pretty serious accusation and people just fling them around like idiots.


Some players have nothing to play for in their last games in "standard" group play, that's what he meant by "lost on purpose".
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