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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8461
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.


To be fair, I doubt Rain invented it either.
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:00:44
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8462
Actually the Ro16 is looking really good ;D

Let's have a all korean PvP semi-finals hahaha
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8463
Also they should call hallutionations Liquids becuase both players who used them effectivley were on liquid (LiquidHuK).
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8464
On November 17 2012 20:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Think I'll ask again now when the thread has slowed down. :p

Didn't Stephano fall for the same trick in Lone Star too?


It was in IPTL

LG-IM vs EG semi-finals match

Seed did something similar to this, but he stayed on two base and built up a maxed immortal/stalker/sentry +3 ball then hallucinated some collosi

totally wrecked stephano, it was on antiga too.

When you think about it using hallucinate against stephano is pretty smart, he often cuts corners to crush protoss timings before he goes back on his zergy path of macro and tech. Using hallucinate makes him cut the corners in the wrong way making him even more vulnerable but stephano's a smart kid he'll probably start to adapt to that.
Glorious SEA doto
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8465
On November 17 2012 20:58 frogrubdown wrote:
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On November 17 2012 20:55 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
And this is why players don't throw games. Nothing is ever set in stone.

Those conspiracy theorists were pretty sad.


Whether or not things are set in stone is pretty irrelevant to whether or not it would ever be rational to throw a game in this format. It's easy enough to construct reasonable probability distributions for which it would give you the best chance.


Nothing being set in stone is pretty relevant to whether or not you throw a game.

In any kind of competition where luck and skill go hand in hand, no matter what the probabilities are, it's incredibly risky to even try to throw games.
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8466
On November 17 2012 20:59 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:57 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:53 Maesy wrote:
Shut up with the Stephano/Idra conspiracies. Idra shit on Stephano. Stephano isn't godly, he's actually quite mediocre if not terrible and he just proved that. Idra was the better player, and now Hero was the better player. Get over it.

uhhhhh. You do know he just won a major tournament a week ago riiiggghhht? Right.



Your point? He's out of this tournament. Last time I checked this one is pretty major.

Maybe his point was that Stephano is not a terrible player like you said, just maybe.



He played terribly in comparison to his opponents which is why he's out of the tournament on day 1. Better?

Nope, because he played well.
Do you really want to claim that Idra and Hero played bad but were able to win because Stephano played terrible?
Maybe try to see games objectively instead of polluting forums with nonsense.


You seem to be taking things out of context. Stephano lost because he played worse.
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Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8467
On November 17 2012 20:58 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
3 base timings again™.
If they nerf infestors zerg is over.


The HerO vs. Stephano game had nothing to do with balance. HerO showcased a creative, one-time only strategy, to upset one of the world's top players in a winner-take-all match.

MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8468
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
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On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8469
FXO.Lowely vs iS.Insur starting on stream 4
Glorious SEA doto
WatchOutNow
Profile Joined July 2012
48 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8470
sad to see nerchio or scarlett ,herO and major going out but the winner of insur vs lowely advance
twitter.com/LiquidRet
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10167 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:02:10
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8471
On November 17 2012 21:00 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.


To be fair, I doubt Rain invented it either.


It's a common thing. Maybe it was herO being stubborn about using it, but colossi halu's are helpful for mindgames in almost every match up. I love to do them on PvP with a blink stalker all in which freaks out people because they don't expect the blink after seeing the colossi
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8472
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.

maybe he did it before rain
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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8473
On November 17 2012 21:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol

He kills their feelings with BM.
Glorious SEA doto
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8474
Idra's Luck Ran out Has to play Rain tomorrow sucks to be him
I am Godzilla You are Japan
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8475
GRUBBY VS KILLER ON STREAM 2 STARTING RIGHT NOW!

Grubby fighting~!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8476
Guys... I see a potential Rain/HerO finals.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8477
On November 17 2012 21:00 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:59 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:57 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:53 Maesy wrote:
Shut up with the Stephano/Idra conspiracies. Idra shit on Stephano. Stephano isn't godly, he's actually quite mediocre if not terrible and he just proved that. Idra was the better player, and now Hero was the better player. Get over it.

uhhhhh. You do know he just won a major tournament a week ago riiiggghhht? Right.



Your point? He's out of this tournament. Last time I checked this one is pretty major.

Maybe his point was that Stephano is not a terrible player like you said, just maybe.



He played terribly in comparison to his opponents which is why he's out of the tournament on day 1. Better?

Nope, because he played well.
Do you really want to claim that Idra and Hero played bad but were able to win because Stephano played terrible?
Maybe try to see games objectively instead of polluting forums with nonsense.


You seem to be taking things out of context. Stephano lost because he played worse.


Worse and terrible are not interchangable. If two people play well and one guy is just a little better and wins that doesnt mean the other one is terrible it just means he played worse.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8478
No question in anyone's mind that HerO outplayed Stephano there. Too bad.

But YAY for HerO advancing <3 and yay for BabyKnight, way better chances for him vs HerO than vs Stephano.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8479
On November 17 2012 21:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol


detecting.
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8480
DUran Brothers most likely facing each other in Round of 16. What a bad luck for Luci (last real Terran hope) having to play vs is brother in TvZ. he would welcome any other zerg with open arms but his brother....

this tournament gets boring as brackets start to evolve for me. terran soon to be the forgotten race...
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