• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:52
CET 11:52
KST 19:52
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada2SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA6StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2241 users

[WCS] Global Finals Day 1 - Page 424

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 422 423 424 425 426 460 Next
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8461
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.


To be fair, I doubt Rain invented it either.
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:00:44
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8462
Actually the Ro16 is looking really good ;D

Let's have a all korean PvP semi-finals hahaha
DontNerfInfestors
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain280 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8463
Also they should call hallutionations Liquids becuase both players who used them effectivley were on liquid (LiquidHuK).
Please dont nerf them.Infestors are fine.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8464
On November 17 2012 20:57 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:53 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Think I'll ask again now when the thread has slowed down. :p

Didn't Stephano fall for the same trick in Lone Star too?


It was in IPTL

LG-IM vs EG semi-finals match

Seed did something similar to this, but he stayed on two base and built up a maxed immortal/stalker/sentry +3 ball then hallucinated some collosi

totally wrecked stephano, it was on antiga too.

When you think about it using hallucinate against stephano is pretty smart, he often cuts corners to crush protoss timings before he goes back on his zergy path of macro and tech. Using hallucinate makes him cut the corners in the wrong way making him even more vulnerable but stephano's a smart kid he'll probably start to adapt to that.
Glorious SEA doto
DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8465
On November 17 2012 20:58 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:55 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
And this is why players don't throw games. Nothing is ever set in stone.

Those conspiracy theorists were pretty sad.


Whether or not things are set in stone is pretty irrelevant to whether or not it would ever be rational to throw a game in this format. It's easy enough to construct reasonable probability distributions for which it would give you the best chance.


Nothing being set in stone is pretty relevant to whether or not you throw a game.

In any kind of competition where luck and skill go hand in hand, no matter what the probabilities are, it's incredibly risky to even try to throw games.
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
November 17 2012 12:00 GMT
#8466
On November 17 2012 20:59 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:57 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:53 Maesy wrote:
Shut up with the Stephano/Idra conspiracies. Idra shit on Stephano. Stephano isn't godly, he's actually quite mediocre if not terrible and he just proved that. Idra was the better player, and now Hero was the better player. Get over it.

uhhhhh. You do know he just won a major tournament a week ago riiiggghhht? Right.



Your point? He's out of this tournament. Last time I checked this one is pretty major.

Maybe his point was that Stephano is not a terrible player like you said, just maybe.



He played terribly in comparison to his opponents which is why he's out of the tournament on day 1. Better?

Nope, because he played well.
Do you really want to claim that Idra and Hero played bad but were able to win because Stephano played terrible?
Maybe try to see games objectively instead of polluting forums with nonsense.


You seem to be taking things out of context. Stephano lost because he played worse.
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8467
On November 17 2012 20:58 DontNerfInfestors wrote:
3 base timings again™.
If they nerf infestors zerg is over.


The HerO vs. Stephano game had nothing to do with balance. HerO showcased a creative, one-time only strategy, to upset one of the world's top players in a winner-take-all match.

MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8468
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8469
FXO.Lowely vs iS.Insur starting on stream 4
Glorious SEA doto
WatchOutNow
Profile Joined July 2012
48 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8470
sad to see nerchio or scarlett ,herO and major going out but the winner of insur vs lowely advance
twitter.com/LiquidRet
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 12:02:10
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8471
On November 17 2012 21:00 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.


To be fair, I doubt Rain invented it either.


It's a common thing. Maybe it was herO being stubborn about using it, but colossi halu's are helpful for mindgames in almost every match up. I love to do them on PvP with a blink stalker all in which freaks out people because they don't expect the blink after seeing the colossi
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
November 17 2012 12:01 GMT
#8472
On November 17 2012 20:58 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:55 Godwrath wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Laryleprakon wrote:
Apparently that was a TLO inspired start ^_^ (from twitter)


The colossi hallu ?


Yea, he tweeted

Dario Wünsch ‏@LiquidTLO
thanks for listening to me for once and making Hallucinations @Liquid_HerO you're welcome. ^_^


Rain did that against DRG on Ohana at OSL, TLO didn't invent it.

maybe he did it before rain
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8473
On November 17 2012 21:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol

He kills their feelings with BM.
Glorious SEA doto
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8474
Idra's Luck Ran out Has to play Rain tomorrow sucks to be him
I am Godzilla You are Japan
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8475
GRUBBY VS KILLER ON STREAM 2 STARTING RIGHT NOW!

Grubby fighting~!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8476
Guys... I see a potential Rain/HerO finals.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8477
On November 17 2012 21:00 Maesy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 20:59 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:57 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:56 Redox wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 Maesy wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:54 EnderCraft wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:53 Maesy wrote:
Shut up with the Stephano/Idra conspiracies. Idra shit on Stephano. Stephano isn't godly, he's actually quite mediocre if not terrible and he just proved that. Idra was the better player, and now Hero was the better player. Get over it.

uhhhhh. You do know he just won a major tournament a week ago riiiggghhht? Right.



Your point? He's out of this tournament. Last time I checked this one is pretty major.

Maybe his point was that Stephano is not a terrible player like you said, just maybe.



He played terribly in comparison to his opponents which is why he's out of the tournament on day 1. Better?

Nope, because he played well.
Do you really want to claim that Idra and Hero played bad but were able to win because Stephano played terrible?
Maybe try to see games objectively instead of polluting forums with nonsense.


You seem to be taking things out of context. Stephano lost because he played worse.


Worse and terrible are not interchangable. If two people play well and one guy is just a little better and wins that doesnt mean the other one is terrible it just means he played worse.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8478
No question in anyone's mind that HerO outplayed Stephano there. Too bad.

But YAY for HerO advancing <3 and yay for BabyKnight, way better chances for him vs HerO than vs Stephano.
thepuppyassassin: "My god... the deathball's grown wings!"
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9407 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8479
On November 17 2012 21:01 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 21:00 HolydaKing wrote:
On November 17 2012 20:59 siii wrote:
Rofl idra, win group > face Rain

No problem he's known to be a Protoss killer. :-D


In what universe? lol


detecting.
RyF
Profile Joined October 2011
Austria508 Posts
November 17 2012 12:02 GMT
#8480
DUran Brothers most likely facing each other in Round of 16. What a bad luck for Luci (last real Terran hope) having to play vs is brother in TvZ. he would welcome any other zerg with open arms but his brother....

this tournament gets boring as brackets start to evolve for me. terran soon to be the forgotten race...
Prev 1 422 423 424 425 426 460 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 8m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7883
Hyuk 2158
Soma 426
Stork 382
Snow 247
Pusan 218
ZerO 193
hero 168
sSak 159
Rush 124
[ Show more ]
Killer 107
Mong 67
ToSsGirL 54
Movie 50
Free 37
Sharp 34
Shine 33
Barracks 20
Terrorterran 19
zelot 17
Noble 16
Sexy 14
Dota 2
XaKoH 398
XcaliburYe139
League of Legends
JimRising 391
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1456
shoxiejesuss673
allub264
Other Games
ceh9647
Pyrionflax179
crisheroes59
NeuroSwarm39
B2W.Neo8
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 875
Other Games
gamesdonequick548
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Light_VIP 76
• LUISG 45
• Adnapsc2 14
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota226
League of Legends
• Stunt905
Other Games
• Scarra1248
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Korean Royale
1h 8m
OSC
5h 8m
Replay Cast
12h 8m
Replay Cast
22h 8m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 23h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Monday
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
BSL 21
5 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.