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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7521
At what point here do they show Stephano's APM?

http://www.twitch.tv/sc2/b/340771035
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7522
Gotta give this quickie update, lowely is going for a roach + queen timing... vs lucifron... the terran.
Glorious SEA doto
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7523
On November 17 2012 19:28 Chicane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:19 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:16 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:14 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:13 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 nkr wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:07 Derrida wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Ziggitz wrote:
How dense are you people. You wanna throw a series? Two games up to maxed armies with elaborate army positioning and backstabs is not the way to do it. 10 pool vs 16 hatch 16 gas 17 pool is how you do it.


Your argument makes no sense, that would be very obvious and fuel the paranoias of conspiracy theorists.


Yeah, and it would lead to him potentially getting caught if he made it obvious. It's not difficult to simply play worse later in the game...

DISCLAIMER: I am once again not saying that I think Stephano threw it, but people are using such flawed logic to make it seem like it somehow isn't a possibility.


I think there's a possibility that you're retarded. I'm not saying you are, but it's still possible.


What a needless personal attack. I'm just being sensible and logical. I'm sorry if it is crushing your dream world where everyone plays for honor and not for money.


I'm just using your own flawed way of arguing.


No... if you were doing that, you would make a statement that would point out the logical flaw in my statement, rather than insulting me in a "witty" way.


Ok, I'll spell it out for you since you don't get it.

Anything is possible. It is possible that every game this event has been staged and no one has actually tried their best. It is also possible there's no money in this tournament and the players are aware of it, hence not trying their best.

Arguing something just because it's possible is absolutely retarded unless you have something actually pointing towards it other than it being... possible.


"Arguing something just because it's possible is absolutely retarded unless you have something actually pointing towards it other than it being... possible."

K.

Stephano has tried to throw games in the past. It is very reasonable that he believes beating HerO and then BabyK is easier than Rain. There is $100k on the line, and Stephano plays SC2 for the money. If he simply plays a normal game, but plays worse, he can't get caught.

Well, I guess we agree then. It is a reasonable possibility because there is "something actually pointing towards it other than it being... possible."


yah if you think he's gonna risk having to play one of the best korean protosses again to even get into the next stage, then whatever

not even mentioning the games, which you obviously are clueless about
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7524
WHY HERO WHY
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
DennyR
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany379 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7525
poor koreans... Legend is the perfect observer, the korean dude is worse than adebisi(who is pretty good)
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7526
Nerchio vs MoonGlade

Game 2 - Cloud Kingdom

On Cloud Kingdom, the players went for yet another round of quick expands, but this time MG had the much faster gas. While MG went for speed and baneligns, Nerchio headed for roaches. A quick attack hitting before Nerchios production of roaches kicked in managed to kill both queens and resulted in a small worker-lead. Nerchio went with double-evo and a pressure from roaches forced MG to play defensively behind spines. At the same time, MG had taken a quick lair and spire, but as he attacked and cancelled the third of nerchio, a big group of upgraded roaches wreaked havoc on the natural and main of MG, killing the natural hatch in the process. After several tries Nerchio also managed to snipe the third of MG, putting him in a dominating position. While teching to hydras and building a fourth, Nerchio prepared a big attack on the third of MG, breaking through the defensive line of MG in a mile-long arch. After a long farewell, MG had to gg and accept defeat.

Nerchio with yet another hectic, but also convincing victory, 2:0
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 17 2012 10:33 GMT
#7527
You can do it Grubbah! ~ We Believe ~
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7528
Lowely with a Queen rush with Roaches, this is new.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7529
On November 17 2012 19:30 Vandrad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:29 Fionn wrote:
but yeah, idra is good zvz. if state beats rain, idra could make the semifinals.

but that depends on state winning.

Why?
He just will defeat Rain then.


Oh wow xD

I want some of what you're smoking.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Savant.GL
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany502 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7530
These conspiracy and "idra sucks" posts are frankly embarrassing.

I hope Idra puts on a great performance tomorrow.

It won't quieten down the morons but it will be fantastic for idra's confidence going forward
Savant
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7531
Is it just me or is the obsing a lot worse than usual? I guess there can only be so many adebisi class observers out there in the fold.
A time to live.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7532
On November 17 2012 19:31 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 19:26 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:18 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:15 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:12 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:11 broodmann wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:09 DrakeFZX3 wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:06 Chicane wrote:
On November 17 2012 19:02 Vandrad wrote:
lol at you conspiracy nuts - stephano tried everything to win.


Ugh... this is just frustrating. I am not saying Stephano threw the games, but it frustrates me to see people who say that they KNOW he did, and also people acting like it isn't a possibility whatsoever.

Stephano HAS TRIED TO THROW GAMES IN THE PAST!!! Why can't everyone just accept the fact that he may have, and also accept the fact that they don't know if he actually did it. It would be so much more sensible..........


Actually, the sensible thing to do is to assume both players played their best.



Then Stephano sure has gotten a lot worse lately


His ZvZ was never as good as his ZvP or ZvT.


I've never seen him play ZvZ this poorly, in game 2 he just threw away infestor energy and units on nothing, several times he split his army in two, attacking with only half of his units


I have. I've also seen him play terribly in his other matchups. Players make mistakes, it happens to the best of them. Before today I've never seen Rain played PvP completely mediocre, but it happens.

To suggest Stephano is throwing games is absurd.


Hardly absurd, Stephano has a lot to gain from throwing the game, not only will he not have to face Rain who is a beast in PvZ his teammate also gets through to the next round. He will have to play Hero again but wouldn't he rather play Hero then BBK rather than Rain?


And Idra's PvZ is absolutely horrid. Idra would have more to gain by throwing this series, yet he won on absolutely back-to-back crushing performances over RoRo and Stephano.

Also, you're downplaying Stephano's amazing PvZ. We just saw how vulnerable Rain is in his supposedly godly PvP. Stephano can give him a run for his money if they were to play. Again, no player would risk throwing games and then NOT even making it out of the group. Anything can happen. It's too risky to even try.


Why do so many people in this thread say so many things with such confidence when you just don't know. Sometimes playing two weaker players is easier than playing one stronger player...

Once again, I don't think Stephano threw the games, but it is a bit frustrating to see people say "Yeah there is just no chance. I know 100% based entirely off of my speculation." Sorry...
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7533
On November 17 2012 19:30 Meggiroth wrote:
Its not just that 60 apm its a lot more things that make this game throw so obvious.


Yeah right you bronzie that looked really staged to me that he had 60apm one time and 550 at the other time. I bet the practised to stage such a close game so people wont say that its staged. Oh well they do anyway.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7534
On November 17 2012 19:32 Fusilero wrote:
Alirght we're in on FAMILY (Ohana) for decider of curious vs hero for the RO16. 15/15 from curious and 17 nexus first from hero nothing too off.

Two lings sneak into CJ_Hero's base, no real damage done, third base coming from curious, stargate from cj_hero. He lacks the soul.
Glorious SEA doto
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7535
Bad start so far for Hero. I hope Curious can capitalize.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
November 17 2012 10:34 GMT
#7536
GRUBBY!
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
November 17 2012 10:35 GMT
#7537
grubby <3
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
November 17 2012 10:35 GMT
#7538
why didnt hero just put a gateway in front of that pylon
Maruprime.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 10:35:34
November 17 2012 10:35 GMT
#7539
grubster... so gooooood
#1 Grubby Fan.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
November 17 2012 10:35 GMT
#7540
Grubby, GO TO VICTORY!
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