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shadowrunner99
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Belarus93 Posts
November 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#11421
jooktoo walkover win vs crank according to liquidpedia? Is this true?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
November 04 2012 03:27 GMT
#11422
On November 04 2012 12:21 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:18 nas wrote:
I don't understand the crying about cheese. Naniwa played greedy a number of times, expanding without scouting. This is how it gets punished.


It is also a response to Flash fans' reaction when Flash got proxy robo cheese in the first series. There will always be people whining about cheese. Especially if it is a player they are rooting for.

Being upset with cheese and whatnot is fine, the problem is that people feel the need to actually post on the forums and tell everyone how angry and salty they are. This is very annoying.
o choro é livre
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11423
On November 04 2012 12:24 insanet wrote:
no kespa player has been eliminated yet.


For any Kespa player except Rain to have been eliminated at this point they would have had to lose 3 series and win 1 at most.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8313 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11424
On November 04 2012 12:20 frogrubdown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:18 cekkmt wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:17 FuRong wrote:
Flash knows how to get the job done when it comes down to important games (well, unless he's against Last).

What would MVP do? 11/11 and win, like a boss.

What was the last map between MVP and Squirtle in the GSL finals that MVP cheesed on? Flash has said he likes MVP's play style. would be funny if MVP won that game on Tal'darim


It was on Atlantis Space Bear.

Dunno if that's an inside joke but it was on Metropolis
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11425
On November 04 2012 12:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:25 Laryleprakon wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:23 W2 wrote:
I guess flash fanboys =/= BW fanboys

....judging by the amount of cheese-hating.
Those who are fortunate enough to have witnessed the glorious moments of BW would know that cheeses make for some of the most memorable games/series


A lot of sc2 people seem to hate cheese

Well a lot of the cheeses in Sc2 are not nearly as entertaining as in BW... Four gates are pretty boring as fuck to watch. Terran cheeses tend to be the most entertaining.


This is true. tt
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11426
On November 04 2012 12:25 Laryleprakon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:23 W2 wrote:
I guess flash fanboys =/= BW fanboys

....judging by the amount of cheese-hating.
Those who are fortunate enough to have witnessed the glorious moments of BW would know that cheeses make for some of the most memorable games/series


A lot of sc2 people seem to hate cheese


A lot of SC2 people don't have a problem with it, and thus have no reason to bitch about it in LR threads.

Without fail, people who're angry about cheese are either upset fanboys or idiots who know nothing about starcraft. Life goes on.
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11427
Flash probably has the BEST macro in the world atm but his micro still has a lot of potential for refinement. Would like to see him versus zergs.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11428
wat, has scarlett always been zerg? how i remember her as a protoss player. wtf
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
willfeeling
Profile Joined August 2012
China97 Posts
November 04 2012 03:28 GMT
#11429
good game flash !!!!!!
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11430
On November 04 2012 12:26 Fischbacher wrote:
Still annoys me that foreigners that dare to cheese get hate while when Koreans do it nobody really cares.

I'm not anti cheese at all. If you're not willing to cheese, you won't ever win consistently. But **** guys, can we get over it when white people cheese? It doesn't mean they are bad players >.>


Guess you weren't here when Mvp cheesed Naniwa in GSL?
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11431
On November 04 2012 12:27 shadowrunner99 wrote:
jooktoo walkover win vs crank according to liquidpedia? Is this true?


crank dropped out.

Undisclosed reasons, but potentially due to health?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42411 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11432
On November 04 2012 12:27 shadowrunner99 wrote:
jooktoo walkover win vs crank according to liquidpedia? Is this true?


yes. crank forfeited his match(es)
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11433
Kudos to whoever keeps updating the liquidpedia.
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27172 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11434
On November 04 2012 12:25 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:19 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:17 J1.au wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:15 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:13 TurboMaN wrote:
In BW Flash would win without a single loss.
SC2 is so much easier that even Foreigners get wins from Koreans.

At least he beat Naniwa with his own cheese style

This is such a stupid post.

Yeah, Flash would never lose in BW, when he practiced 12 hours a day, had a pro-house system built around a Korean TV audience.

A practice regimen that is so intense that he had to get shoulder surgery. Yes that is so desirable to want to bring back.

"Bring back"? It's already here. When SC2 came around all the KeSPA pros didn't suddenly decide to take it easy.

They're applying such a practice regimen, or close to it. But it doesn't give the insurmountable advantage that it did in BW. There's still a big gap of course, but it's at least possible to compete.

There's no coincidence to me that Terran is the race that requires ridiculous mechanics to compete with at the highest level, and that a majority of the current SC2 progamers who are having issues with wrists/necks etc are all Terran.

That seems really arbitrary, all good Koreans have very high apm, regardless of whether they actually use it or not. DRG has 400apm, maybe he only needs 30 for brood lord infestor, but he still clicks really fast. It's the same for all of them. And I don't think it's a good thing when speed of execution starts to become irrelevant.

I'm agreeing with you. It should be important. DRG plays more lair-tech and a more APM intensive style. Protoss should be able to make more use of high APM too. Puzzle played at like, 250 Blizzard APM and you wouldn't bloody know this from watching him play because of how Protoss works.

I just find it somewhat curious that all the players I am aware about, with wrist problems in SC2 are Terran players. They shouldn't have to injure themselves in an effort to compete. Might be an entirely random coincidence though!
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
FatBat
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany326 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11435
if taeja wins now. I think we may have a new rivalry otherwise we found taejas cryptonite
"This game went full retard"- Totalbiscuit
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11436
On November 04 2012 12:28 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:20 frogrubdown wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:18 cekkmt wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:17 FuRong wrote:
Flash knows how to get the job done when it comes down to important games (well, unless he's against Last).

What would MVP do? 11/11 and win, like a boss.

What was the last map between MVP and Squirtle in the GSL finals that MVP cheesed on? Flash has said he likes MVP's play style. would be funny if MVP won that game on Tal'darim


It was on Atlantis Space Bear.

Dunno if that's an inside joke but it was on Metropolis

pretty sure it wasn't
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-04 03:29:44
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11437
On November 04 2012 12:28 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:20 frogrubdown wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:18 cekkmt wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:17 FuRong wrote:
Flash knows how to get the job done when it comes down to important games (well, unless he's against Last).

What would MVP do? 11/11 and win, like a boss.

What was the last map between MVP and Squirtle in the GSL finals that MVP cheesed on? Flash has said he likes MVP's play style. would be funny if MVP won that game on Tal'darim


It was on Atlantis Space Bear.

Dunno if that's an inside joke but it was on Metropolis

Nope. Atlantis Spaceship

Metropolis was the Battlecruiser game. Game 5.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11438
On November 04 2012 12:28 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:20 frogrubdown wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:18 cekkmt wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:17 FuRong wrote:
Flash knows how to get the job done when it comes down to important games (well, unless he's against Last).

What would MVP do? 11/11 and win, like a boss.

What was the last map between MVP and Squirtle in the GSL finals that MVP cheesed on? Flash has said he likes MVP's play style. would be funny if MVP won that game on Tal'darim


It was on Atlantis Space Bear.

Dunno if that's an inside joke but it was on Metropolis


metropolis was the game 5 with the battlecruisers
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11439
On November 04 2012 12:27 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2012 12:21 vthree wrote:
On November 04 2012 12:18 nas wrote:
I don't understand the crying about cheese. Naniwa played greedy a number of times, expanding without scouting. This is how it gets punished.


It is also a response to Flash fans' reaction when Flash got proxy robo cheese in the first series. There will always be people whining about cheese. Especially if it is a player they are rooting for.

Being upset with cheese and whatnot is fine, the problem is that people feel the need to actually post on the forums and tell everyone how angry and salty they are. This is very annoying.

Elephant Good Unit.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
November 04 2012 03:29 GMT
#11440
On November 04 2012 12:28 chosenkerrigan wrote:
Flash probably has the BEST macro in the world atm but his micro still has a lot of potential for refinement. Would like to see him versus zergs.


He better be endin the game before Infestor
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