[OSL] Auction OSL Grand Finals - Page 140

forsooth

United States3648 Posts

October 27 2012 12:32 GMT

#2781

On October 27 2012 21:26 vAtAZz wrote:

Terran has been for a very long time the most represented race in code with with until 60% of Terrans in Code S, please let the others races win trophies.

When they start being fun to watch, sure.

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

October 27 2012 12:34 GMT

#2782

Fuck yeah Rain, I knew it. Now win WCS Finals please. I will be there watching you just like WCS Asia finals.

Patate

Canada441 Posts

October 27 2012 12:35 GMT

#2783

On October 27 2012 21:27 zefreak wrote:

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I remember a TvZ about a week ago..

I'm a BW fan and i'm almost ashamed of it sometimes. Some BW fans are such children.

I started watching Brood War in 2010 when i bought SC2. I didn't care about E-sports before then, and i started watching both games. I have a SC2 GSL subscription, both for GSTL and GSL. While I enjoy playing Starcraft 2, maybe even more than playing BW where I constantly fight the broken pathing and units behavior, WATCHING the games are entirely different. No one can enjoy watching SC2 more than BW, except for the few ones who care about graphics.

As for the comebacks comment, my point is that comebacks should be common, not something you see once in a few months.

"I remember that Taeja vs Hero game".. well if comebacks were common, you wouldn't remember that game because it wouldn't be special.

Salient

United States876 Posts

October 27 2012 12:36 GMT

#2784

Are there VODs available for the OSL games?

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

October 27 2012 12:36 GMT

#2785

On October 27 2012 21:35 Patate wrote:
No one can enjoy watching SC2 more than BW, except for the few ones who care about graphics.

please don't generalise

zerious

Canada3803 Posts

October 27 2012 12:37 GMT

#2786

+ Show Spoiler +

Patate

Canada441 Posts

October 27 2012 12:37 GMT

#2787

On October 27 2012 21:36 Salient wrote:
Are there VODs available for the OSL games?

http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV

Normally they always upload the OGN stuff.. they might upload it later today

DarkPlasmaBall

United States43756 Posts

October 27 2012 12:37 GMT

#2788

Congratulations to Rain!

ZerglingTwins

United States850 Posts

October 27 2012 12:40 GMT

#2789

On October 27 2012 21:37 zerious wrote:
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That's S2, right? Never heard of him in SC2 though. Hope he can carry zerg flag for SKT T1.

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

October 27 2012 12:43 GMT

#2790

On October 27 2012 21:29 Patate wrote:

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On October 27 2012 21:00 Danzo wrote:
Man watching those older OSL montages, the atmosphere was so electric. I didn't feel any of that today even tho the games were good.

The games were good? no. PvZ is always boring.

The audience was inexistant, and the atmosphere was dead.

I wouldn't be surprised if OGN just quits SC2, or goes back to BW. This tournament was simply awful and I will not even remember it tomorrow when waking up.

I hope Blizzard will step it up and fundamentally change this game before they lose all their big partners (OGN-kespa, for one). But I'm losing hope :X

It's their first sc2 tournament. Are they supposed to just give up when they don't get the attention like GSL? What kind of attitude is that...

this is the first chance of some real competition in korea.

It's their first SC2 tournament and the viewers didn't follow the BW--> SC2 transition at all, because they don't want to watch that game. Normally when there is a new thing, people are more interested... or at least they are curious. OGN lost so many fans when transitionning.

It's called building up a fanbase. There's nothing automatic about it.

Are you kidding me? They already had a fanbase. This was supposed to be OGN's BW fanbase meet SC2 fanbase. If this game was interesting, it would have been bigger than the BW OSL of the last few years, but the audience was almost inexistant. Please, just realize how dead this game is compared to BW.

They had a BW fanbase.

And your pessimism is pathetic...

Just because OGN does bad its first season, suddenly sc2 is dead. Spare me.

When you think realism is pessimism, maybe you should stop being biased. I really wanted the KESPA players and OGN to revigorate SC2, but the only ones who can do it don't even have the competence to do so. They release a BALANCE patch every week for the beta HoTS, and think suddenly this game is going to be popular and growing. Your optimism is killing Starcraft.. it needs a reality check.

The life is sc2 in korea doesn't hinge on the OSL, not at all. GSL is WAY bigger in korea, the OSL barely has any attention on the forums and such in korea (this a fact). You are blowing this out of proportion, and living in the past where the OSL was the shit and more important than anything.

And please, don't go over into the whole saveHotS rant, it's so ridiculous.

GSL finals fill out an auditorium which is not bad, but please go watch a BW finals from 2005 or so. I do understand that with streaming and all, people will have lower motivations to actually move out to an offline event, but these are the finals.. there should have been more people. and if you think i live in the past, go watch offline LoL events: people are still interested in E-sports.. just not Starcraft 2.

True, I flew to Korea to watch BW finals, but didn't even watch this SC2 OSL.
Just super happy Rain won because I've been a hardcore SKT fan for years and I have always believed in the elephant is in the room stuff.

leo23

United States3075 Posts

October 27 2012 12:43 GMT

#2791

Damn... didn't take the elephants that long (jk jk)

PVJ

Hungary5212 Posts

October 27 2012 12:46 GMT

#2792

On October 27 2012 20:29 shadymmj wrote:

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yeah, rip BW, the best and ONLY "sport"

But come on guys, that's when BW was at it's peak, after 8 years of playan. If someone posts the first final where Grrrr won and it's like double the size of this one, than yea, you can say that this final was bad. But I'd say if this was a good run for OGN than all's good, and maybe combining the two teamleagues now, or just hyping HotS up would be enough to have a bigger domestic audience.

While everyone was crying about the size of the audience at least DRG got raped, so congrats for that to Bisong and also for Royal Roading the Fall.

aRyuujin

United States5049 Posts

October 27 2012 12:46 GMT

#2793

dat JD score

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

October 27 2012 12:47 GMT

#2794

On October 27 2012 21:37 Patate wrote:

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http://www.youtube.com/user/ESportsTV

Normally they always upload the OGN stuff.. they might upload it later today

not for this OSL afaik

Gevna

France2332 Posts

October 27 2012 12:51 GMT

#2795

People should stop being alarmist about sc2. OSL sc2 isn't really that big yet, that doesn't mean sc2 is dead, GSL finals were really packed, which is quite logical since it's the best sc2 league. Yeah sc2 isn't the prime e-sports title he was because of LoL, he's still a huge part in e-sports.

Today's games were a bit underwhelming, but that's because Rain was a few levels above DRG, then the only thing you can expect in a good e-sports game is him winning convincingly. It's not because of pvz or blizzard, just better builds, timings, multitask which lead into onesided win.

Anyway the thing I'm sure, is that I don't want sc2 to become a casual game like LoL just in order to get a big public.

SC2ShoWTimE

Germany722 Posts

October 27 2012 12:51 GMT

#2796

On October 27 2012 21:29 Patate wrote:

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On October 27 2012 21:00 Danzo wrote:
Man watching those older OSL montages, the atmosphere was so electric. I didn't feel any of that today even tho the games were good.

It's called building up a fanbase. There's nothing automatic about it.

They had a BW fanbase.

And your pessimism is pathetic...

Just because OGN does bad its first season, suddenly sc2 is dead. Spare me.

you have to consider that in 2005 bw basically was esports but now we have more than just 1 game that people like to watch.

Talin

Montenegro10532 Posts

October 27 2012 12:54 GMT

#2797

Well that went as expected.

+1 for T1.

lolmlg

619 Posts

October 27 2012 13:01 GMT

#2798

On October 27 2012 21:51 SC2ShoWTimE wrote:

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The games were good? no. PvZ is always boring.

The audience was inexistant, and the atmosphere was dead.

I wouldn't be surprised if OGN just quits SC2, or goes back to BW. This tournament was simply awful and I will not even remember it tomorrow when waking up.

I hope Blizzard will step it up and fundamentally change this game before they lose all their big partners (OGN-kespa, for one). But I'm losing hope :X

It's called building up a fanbase. There's nothing automatic about it.

They had a BW fanbase.

And your pessimism is pathetic...

Just because OGN does bad its first season, suddenly sc2 is dead. Spare me.

you have to consider that in 2005 bw basically was esports but now we have more than just 1 game that people like to watch.

People didn't watch BW because they didn't have any other video games to watch. They watched it because they liked it. There were lots of other proleagues on OGN and MBC Game. Most of them went away relatively quickly because the games weren't very good by comparison or as interesting to a spectator.

Edit: Also, I don't think SC2 viewership would go up if LoL went away.

TT1

Canada9984 Posts

October 27 2012 13:03 GMT

#2799

WHERE R VODS