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eanxiii
Profile Joined September 2012
38 Posts
October 22 2012 01:42 GMT
#41
So good to see a good game like this, that was awesome, such a good fight. Love the broodling, so good.
But they should last longer , it would be even better.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
October 22 2012 01:42 GMT
#42
Stephano won the crucial battle to take the game. So many highly upgraded Broodlords melted those stalkers so quickly. NightEnd played extremely well though with his DT harass, unfortunately for him Stephano will now learn to build a spore/overseer to counter that tactic.
Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
October 22 2012 01:42 GMT
#43
I never whine about imbalance, but this is too much even for me. 5 vs 1 base, no problem for zerg. Nightend choose his engagement rather poorly, but the outcome was just not making any sense.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 22 2012 01:44 GMT
#44
I want a delivery too. >: (
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 01:49:52
October 22 2012 01:45 GMT
#45
On October 22 2012 10:42 Kompicek wrote:
I never whine about imbalance, but this is too much even for me. 5 vs 1 base, no problem for zerg. Nightend choose his engagement rather poorly, but the outcome was just not making any sense.


By the time the DT harass occurred, Stephano had already amassed his death ball army and finished upgrading it. This was possible because he had maintained the economic lead for a large part of the game by going up to 5 (and briefly even 6) bases while killing the Protoss 4th bases several times.
templar rage
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2509 Posts
October 22 2012 01:47 GMT
#46
On October 22 2012 10:45 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 10:42 Kompicek wrote:
I never whine about imbalance, but this is too much even for me. 5 vs 1 base, no problem for zerg. Nightend choose his engagement rather poorly, but the outcome was just not making any sense.


By the time the DT harass occurred, Stephano had already amassed his death ball army and finished upgrading it.


Pretty much this. What happened to Nightend is what can happen a lot when you go mutas against Protoss. You spend so much time focusing on destroying their economy, but it doesn't matter because they still managed to get an unkillable army. It doesn't matter if he can't replace the army because it's not going to die anyway. Nightend spent way too much time and resources killing everything but Stephano's army.
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
October 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#47
On October 22 2012 10:47 templar rage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 10:45 revel8 wrote:
On October 22 2012 10:42 Kompicek wrote:
I never whine about imbalance, but this is too much even for me. 5 vs 1 base, no problem for zerg. Nightend choose his engagement rather poorly, but the outcome was just not making any sense.


By the time the DT harass occurred, Stephano had already amassed his death ball army and finished upgrading it.


Pretty much this. What happened to Nightend is what can happen a lot when you go mutas against Protoss. You spend so much time focusing on destroying their economy, but it doesn't matter because they still managed to get an unkillable army. It doesn't matter if he can't replace the army because it's not going to die anyway. Nightend spent way too much time and resources killing everything but Stephano's army.


Exactly Stephano had to use his bank and resources to rebuild all those bases/tech structures after the DT harass and this hampered his ability to remax, but he never needed to remax his army after that point.
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
October 22 2012 01:52 GMT
#48
i think stephano will shut down this blink build....
byah!
nicknup
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil316 Posts
October 22 2012 01:53 GMT
#49
On October 22 2012 10:52 simmeh wrote:
i think stephano will shut down this blink build....

It was close
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 22 2012 01:53 GMT
#50
On October 22 2012 10:52 simmeh wrote:
i think stephano will shut down this blink build....


You are correct
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 22 2012 02:03 GMT
#51
Great segment. wd
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 22 2012 02:22 GMT
#52
MMA playing so bad
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 22 2012 02:23 GMT
#53
On October 22 2012 10:45 revel8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 10:42 Kompicek wrote:
I never whine about imbalance, but this is too much even for me. 5 vs 1 base, no problem for zerg. Nightend choose his engagement rather poorly, but the outcome was just not making any sense.


By the time the DT harass occurred, Stephano had already amassed his death ball army and finished upgrading it. This was possible because he had maintained the economic lead for a large part of the game by going up to 5 (and briefly even 6) bases while killing the Protoss 4th bases several times.


And I think that is why people are complaining. It is not just a balance in terms of win/loss because like you said, Stephano had the eco lead. It is more like once Zerg gets that composition, it is just WAY to cost effective that you can't even try to trade. But since the zerg is immobile, they can't defend multiple bases. It just doesn't make viewing exciting. It would be like basketball without a shot clock. Sure, one team played better and get the lead, but then they can just hold the ball for 10 minutes and wait for the game to end. Do you think people will pay to watch that? I think the BL/infestors army needs to be more mobile but also weakened so there is a good way to engage it somewhat cost effectively (even if not 1:1, maybe 1.2:1?)
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
October 22 2012 02:24 GMT
#54
On October 22 2012 11:22 Bagration wrote:
MMA playing so bad


Probably not in the best mental state right now...
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 22 2012 02:24 GMT
#55
NASL commercial acting level: porno
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
October 22 2012 02:27 GMT
#56
Sometimes I wish MMA had just retired after winning Iron Squid
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#57
Beautiful TvT by Demuslim.

EGMMARC can learn a lot.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
October 22 2012 02:28 GMT
#58
On October 22 2012 11:27 Bagration wrote:
Sometimes I wish MMA had just retired after winning Iron Squid

At least he has the potential to get better again now.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Falconblade
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1035 Posts
October 22 2012 02:29 GMT
#59
Excellent play by Demuslim. One more please! Would put him at a great spot in the group.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
October 22 2012 02:30 GMT
#60
On October 22 2012 11:27 Bagration wrote:
Sometimes I wish MMA had just retired after winning Iron Squid


Don't be like that. It will get better, you'll see.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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