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Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
October 07 2012 12:05 GMT
#21
too bad Last beat Flash and screwed us of a Top4 of the ages... but by all means don't underestimate him. I'd be surprised if this ended in a 3-0 for rain.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 12:11:04
October 07 2012 12:10 GMT
#22
On October 07 2012 20:45 ColtraneL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 20:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On October 07 2012 20:28 The_Templar wrote:
I wish this was PartinG vs FlaSh. T_T
But it is what it is here, so I'll say Rain 3-2.


Rain is actually a lot better than PartinG at the moment, despite the latter's historically brilliant PvT.

Go Go~~ 4-0 or 4-1 ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Rain showed some greatness in three matches vs terran (Byun, Polt and Taeja) but failed against Happy, Parting still almost never loses TvP, I don't think you can say Rain is better than Parting in TvP. A lot better is definitely an exageration. Overall, Rain may be a better player, but he needs a little bit more appearances to show it.


PartinG definitely loses TvP lol. But the thing I'm basing my argument off is results, and I've made this argument before when it comes to PartinG. I agree wholeheartedly that for a while he was indeed the best PvT on the planet, but let's look at what he's done since his semi-final appearance in the GSL. He took 3rd at WCS Korea but dropped out of the following 2 GSL Code S seasons from the round of 32. Moreover, he failed to reach top 4 in any foreign event he has attended, a feat that would arguably be easier to accomplish than top 4 in the GSL.

Bison on the other hand has broken into the scene much later, yet he has managed to claim 5th-6th in WCS Korea right from the get-go. That in itself may not be impressive, but look at him now, he's in the semi finals of the two best leagues in the world at the same time. And with some great PvT preparation and a bit of good luck, he can definitely be in both finals as well (and I say this despite being an avid Mvp fanboy).

Please don't think I'm trying to shit on PartinG, he's one of my favourite Protosses and definitely a top 10 player of said race, but *at the moment* he's nowhere near Bison's level. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
October 07 2012 12:14 GMT
#23
I'm hoping for the best case scenario where Rain wins both OSL and GSL, that would be fantastic!
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18746 Posts
October 07 2012 12:18 GMT
#24
bo7 in OSL? O.O
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
October 07 2012 12:36 GMT
#25
On October 07 2012 21:10 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 20:45 ColtraneL wrote:
On October 07 2012 20:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On October 07 2012 20:28 The_Templar wrote:
I wish this was PartinG vs FlaSh. T_T
But it is what it is here, so I'll say Rain 3-2.


Rain is actually a lot better than PartinG at the moment, despite the latter's historically brilliant PvT.

Go Go~~ 4-0 or 4-1 ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Rain showed some greatness in three matches vs terran (Byun, Polt and Taeja) but failed against Happy, Parting still almost never loses TvP, I don't think you can say Rain is better than Parting in TvP. A lot better is definitely an exageration. Overall, Rain may be a better player, but he needs a little bit more appearances to show it.


PartinG definitely loses TvP lol. But the thing I'm basing my argument off is results, and I've made this argument before when it comes to PartinG. I agree wholeheartedly that for a while he was indeed the best PvT on the planet, but let's look at what he's done since his semi-final appearance in the GSL. He took 3rd at WCS Korea but dropped out of the following 2 GSL Code S seasons from the round of 32. Moreover, he failed to reach top 4 in any foreign event he has attended, a feat that would arguably be easier to accomplish than top 4 in the GSL.

Bison on the other hand has broken into the scene much later, yet he has managed to claim 5th-6th in WCS Korea right from the get-go. That in itself may not be impressive, but look at him now, he's in the semi finals of the two best leagues in the world at the same time. And with some great PvT preparation and a bit of good luck, he can definitely be in both finals as well (and I say this despite being an avid Mvp fanboy).

Please don't think I'm trying to shit on PartinG, he's one of my favourite Protosses and definitely a top 10 player of said race, but *at the moment* he's nowhere near Bison's level. :/


parting hasnt played pvt is quite a while so you cant say for sure how good his pvt is, but it definitly is still very good......
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Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
October 07 2012 12:47 GMT
#26
By.Sun or By.Rain, Jung Yoon Jong will take this 4:1!
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silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 07 2012 12:59 GMT
#27
HYPED! GO RAIN!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 07 2012 13:03 GMT
#28
Expecting the Rain hype train to gain even more steam to the point where fans become obnoxious. Like every hype train.

Rain totally legit and looks impressive, so hype isn't without reason of course.

I honestly still haven't caught a game of Last yet. If it's anything like the last laggy OSL stream though I won't bother with this and just check results later.
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
October 07 2012 13:28 GMT
#29
I like Rain and I definitely wouldn't mind watching him win

I still have too much respect for the reverse AK Last pulled off though, even if he eliminated Fantasy

If Last happens to beat Rain, that's fine too
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
October 07 2012 13:40 GMT
#30
Damn X is good, he always gets a cleansweep.

Go Sun!
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FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
October 07 2012 15:13 GMT
#31
Sun 4-1 or 4-0.
Play your best
ColtraneL
Profile Joined December 2011
France248 Posts
October 07 2012 15:31 GMT
#32
On October 07 2012 20:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2012 20:45 ColtraneL wrote:
On October 07 2012 20:38 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On October 07 2012 20:28 The_Templar wrote:
I wish this was PartinG vs FlaSh. T_T
But it is what it is here, so I'll say Rain 3-2.


Rain is actually a lot better than PartinG at the moment, despite the latter's historically brilliant PvT.

Go Go~~ 4-0 or 4-1 ^^

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Rain showed some greatness in three matches vs terran (Byun, Polt and Taeja) but failed against Happy, Parting still almost never loses TvP, I don't think you can say Rain is better than Parting in TvP. A lot better is definitely an exageration. Overall, Rain may be a better player, but he needs a little bit more appearances to show it.

parting actually loses TvP fairly often, haha. when he wins though, his wins look very dominant


It's funny but when you look at his TLPD Korea he hasn't lost a single TvP serie except to MKP (who crushed everybody at this moment) and Mvp since Byun in Iccup in 2011. That's the reason why I said that, but now it's true that he loses a lot in foreign/online tourneys. Still he has a pretty decent record in Korea when he isn't up against somebody who destroys every other opponent at the moment. Maybe he doesn't like travelling or online qualifiers.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
October 07 2012 15:34 GMT
#33
Won't be a close game. 4-0 or 4-1 for Rain.
Incomplet
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
October 07 2012 15:53 GMT
#34
I think we can all agree that both Parting and Rain both have good PvT. But the big difference lies in their other match ups. Where Parting is abysmal in PvZ, Rain seems to be very well rounded in all match ups. And this is the big difference between the two. On a good day, either play can beat each other or most other opponents, but over a period of time, Rain will come out on top.
Bow down to the sons of Aiur...SKT1_Rain, CreatorPrime, ST_Parting, Liquid_Hero.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 07 2012 16:00 GMT
#35
might be 4-2
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
biaxiong
Profile Joined March 2011
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-07 16:16:59
October 07 2012 16:16 GMT
#36
The metagame Protoss is stronger but those Uchiha Terrans always pull out sharingan hacks.
WhiteRa: More GG, more skill.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
October 07 2012 16:26 GMT
#37
gogo rain, double royal road ezpz.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
EvilDet
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany130 Posts
October 07 2012 16:26 GMT
#38
Rain 4-1
Jenia6109
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Russian Federation1613 Posts
October 07 2012 16:32 GMT
#39
Can anybody explain how can i get korean vods of OSL now?
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RageCommodore
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany912 Posts
October 07 2012 16:33 GMT
#40
While I agree that Rain looks like the far superior player at the moment, I don't think that Last will just go out 0-4. He got counted out vs Flash, and he gets counted out vs Rain, but I believe that he can still do this or at least make it close. That would put an end to this Rain hype train. Also, STX would have another "home-grown" champion.
BW: sGs.sTaRfaLL SC2: MarojiN | fan of: Darkforce, DBS, Last, Mvp, BoguS/InnoVatioN | Executer vs Choosy on Gladiator - Never forget T-T
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