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firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 03 2012 11:24 GMT
#1461
tasteless said LoL is good game- gg
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Rexeus
Profile Joined October 2011
78 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1462
Hero forgot his umbrella.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1463
If you're terran and you go greedy against zerg, you can lose to an all-in. If you play safe, then you lose to greedy zerg. So what? The same is true in every match-up. The point people have been trying to make is that you can't know which build to go as terran since scouting is impossible. Give me a fucking break. They sound like Idra when he said it was impossible to scout vs. terran because they can wall off and patrolling marines can shoot down scouting overlords, and therefore the zerg can never know what build the terran is going and so the terran is inherently over-powered. Total bullshit.

Link to idra balance discussion: http://sclegacy.com/editorials/105-strategy/1005-sotg-idra-vs-day9
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1464
On October 03 2012 20:23 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:21 Mentalizor wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:12 opterown wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:11 Tsubbi wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:09 opterown wrote:
symbol repping that daybreak ZvT winrate


daybreak is almost perfect 50% in korea

TvZ record: 438-606 (42%)


To bring up the old Idra-comment:
There's nothing that indicates that the difference doesn't lie in player skills... rather than balance...

Overall I think the balance is pretty good Just a few maps and tactics are slightly race-favored... But then you just have to prepare for it. 3 super fast OCs isn't exactly playing it safe

over a 1,100 game pool though?


Some people already mentioned how these numbers involve foreignors. I would argue 1,100 games is a good samplesize to consider the balance in the matchup (on this specific map). However, I still think you should take into consideration who played and how they turned out. It would be interesting to see the winrates of different styles/all ins.
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1465
On October 03 2012 20:24 firehand101 wrote:
tasteless said LoL is good game- gg

This is why you're not happy.
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1466
Tasteless going ranting
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1467
Tasteless dishing out some nerd life lessons
Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1468
Tasteless spittin truth! Tell it to 'em!
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1469
Good rant Tasteless, good rant.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1470
Good rant Tasteless <3
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-03 11:26:13
October 03 2012 11:25 GMT
#1471
silly casters. why should I support all the games, I only support games I like, just like everything else. Common sense.

you don't see people screaming "Support soccer because it is a sport just like hockey and football".
OhSix
Profile Joined October 2011
United States252 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1472
"This is why you're not happy"

Hahah, oh man.
What you preach is worthless, your worship defeat the purpose, like president Bush taking bullets for the secret service.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1473
Now i know why i'm not happy. Dota 2 is getting big, man..
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1474
This is too funny.
The Bomber boy
Theeakoz
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1114 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1475
On October 03 2012 20:25 iky43210 wrote:
silly casters. why should I support all the games, I only support games I like, common sense.

you don't see people screaming "Support soccer because it is a sport just like hockey and football".

"I only support games I like" and hate the one's i dont? This is why you're not happy!
Please change the luck dependancy of spawning locations on rotationally symmetric maps.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1476
On October 03 2012 20:21 duct_TAPE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:18 Shikyo wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:17 rothsbury wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:16 Talack wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:14 blacksheepwall wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:12 speknek wrote:
On October 03 2012 20:10 GumBa wrote:
That allin from symbol is so strong I face it alot on the ladder

Yeah that allin is ridiculous :D I even scout it usually but it just doesn't matter, no idea how to stop it.

Don't go 3 OC double E-Bay by six minutes with no units.


"i can't beat zerg economic openings"
"you just need to go fast 3 OC man, then you'll be on even footing"

this is why they shouldnt have taken away terran harassment options in early game >< has made the matchup have alot less depth

I heard scouting is pretty good.

It doesn't really work like that.

"Oh zerg just made 20 roaches at once, better start up my barracks now"


Roaches dosn't just pop out of thin air, if you are a pro gamer you should be able to identify gas timings/how much is mined, the timing of the roach warren, drone count, things like this. It's not like it's impossible to scout and prepare for in time.

T generally has just a single scan that he can use for scouting and it's pretty unreliable, especially as Z's unit structures aren't too committed. As in, he can make a bane nest and roach warren and still make pure drones.

It'd of course help if T did scout the Z sustainably with another method like Reapers but that's pretty tough
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Tuthur
Profile Joined July 2010
France985 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1477
sorry Tasteless, although I agree with your point, LoL is still a bad game :p

Now let's see Symbol win please!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1478
not a fan of LoL, Dota2 is okay
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Shkudde
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands709 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1479
On October 03 2012 20:25 iky43210 wrote:
silly casters. why should I support all the games, I only support games I like, just like everything else. Common sense.

you don't see people screaming "Support soccer because it is a sport just like hockey and football".


Which is all Tasteless asked for. He just said people shouldn't BASH other games.
$O$ | herO[jOin] | Zest hwaiting!
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 03 2012 11:26 GMT
#1480
On October 03 2012 20:25 Theeakoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2012 20:24 firehand101 wrote:
tasteless said LoL is good game- gg

This is why you're not happy.
Hahaha lol, nicely played
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