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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 16 2012 21:27 GMT
#6181
On September 17 2012 06:25 Rhedsa wrote:
Vortix too greedy.. no spine and spire?


uh, stephano got the spine and he timed his attack to counter any mutas from coming out.

trademark
Mackus
Profile Joined January 2011
England1681 Posts
September 16 2012 21:27 GMT
#6182
On September 17 2012 06:26 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:24 Schmoooopy wrote:
No, seriously, ZvZ is a potentially-awesome matchup, just as good as TvT in my opinion, but I honestly don't understand ANYTHING that's going on right now.

ZvZ can occasionally produce some great games but let's not go overboard.


There's having a great ZvZ game and there's having a tournament full of them which WCS Asia will have
Aando
Profile Joined August 2011
1304 Posts
September 16 2012 21:27 GMT
#6183
On September 17 2012 06:26 Mouzone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:25 Tsubbi wrote:
ling bane control is the most unforgiving micro war in sc2, so fun to watch, so extremely horrible to play


Tell me about it, I always hated ZvZ because it's so damn stressful.

That was my favorite part when I played zerg. I was an old FPS player before I started with sc2 so I could pretty much out-micro anyone at my level.
jnd
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Czech Republic915 Posts
September 16 2012 21:27 GMT
#6184
On September 17 2012 06:23 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:22 jnd wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:18 Braric wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:17 StarStruck wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:16 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:14 Youtakenocandle wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:13 stichtom wrote:
94k

Best e-sports event ever?


LOL has had close to 200k iirc.

but LoL isnt e-sports


You guys need to drop that shit.


Honestly it's not a good game, if you want to play a real MOBA then play Dota2, League of legends lacks intricacy and depth that make you appreciate the skill of the competitors.

I think you're missing the point here. It's all about the title popularity. If you made such argument for most real sports, people would think you're insane.


Not really. It's like people watching Nascar or Formula 1.

Not really what? Both are popular events despite different skill levels of their "players". Most people don't care how much APM game demands or that you have builds nailed down to the second.
Team 8 BaBy will be the next Terran Bonjwa in HoTS | HSC V, the best tournament in 2012 | GD Studio #1 no fluff esports show
Stoffelhase
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany162 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6185
pls vortix win game 2 this is so intense even im no fanboy of both, neither zerg :D
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6186
On September 17 2012 06:24 Schmoooopy wrote:
No, seriously, ZvZ is a potentially-awesome matchup, just as good as TvT in my opinion, but I honestly don't understand ANYTHING that's going on right now.

huh..came back when stephano had 2 base with 2 spines up, but in ling/bane vs ling/bane its better micro wins. Vortix had a terrible engagement at his natual that allowed stephano to just continue ling/bane pressure with better economy that Vortix couldn't keep up with.

could have been same economy for a bit, but stephano was droning behind this a little.
Hiea
Profile Joined March 2012
Denmark1538 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6187
On September 17 2012 06:27 Mackus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:26 forsooth wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:24 Schmoooopy wrote:
No, seriously, ZvZ is a potentially-awesome matchup, just as good as TvT in my opinion, but I honestly don't understand ANYTHING that's going on right now.

ZvZ can occasionally produce some great games but let's not go overboard.


There's having a great ZvZ game and there's having a tournament full of them which WCS Asia will have

Nah, we'll have another NASL Season 3, where the only matchup is PvZ.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6188
On September 17 2012 06:26 Angelbelow wrote:
Great micro there from stephano.

not really, he mismicroed a lot in this match but he won because vortix made bad decisions
Stork[gm]
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6189
On September 17 2012 06:27 Asza wrote:
Why did he not kill the pool?


I was just about to post this. My only thought is it forces the game into a state of passivity which is disadvantageous to Vortix as he's economically behind.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6190
lol apollo saying it like it is. stephano better no matter what.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6191
4-2 Stephano- Vortix
-smells likes tasty soup, what's the menu?-fresh jaedong style marine stew served with a glass of dragoon slush!-The food's any good?Quite unusual names, never heard-all my food's good, the kitchen's this way-btw whatu terarn doing alone in a zerg colony?
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6192
On September 17 2012 06:26 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:24 Schmoooopy wrote:
No, seriously, ZvZ is a potentially-awesome matchup, just as good as TvT in my opinion, but I honestly don't understand ANYTHING that's going on right now.

ZvZ can occasionally produce some great games but let's not go overboard.


Yup. Mirrow roach/hydra/infestor macrofest is rarely fun to watch.
Bora Pain minha porra!
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6193
On September 17 2012 06:26 crms wrote:
why didnt vortix kill the pool instead of the hatch? wouldn't that be instant GG?


Nope stephano could have started a new pool or just morphed more defensive banes while his new pool is building. He already had 2 queens and 2 spines so he would have been fine as the new pool finishes building.
You may delay, but time will not. Current Music obsession: Opeth
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
September 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#6194
Gogo VortiX, make Game 3 happen again!
Antithesis
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1216 Posts
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6195
On September 17 2012 06:26 Vaftrudner wrote:
I disagree with Tastosis, Vortix wasn't that ahead. When he lost his main, it was 1 base to 1. They expanded simultaneously after that, it just looked bad for Stephano on the surface.

Also, and more importantly, he had creep at his natural and could plant his spines there, that's, apart from gas mining, actually better than losing the natural.
Mutation complete.
yawnoC
Profile Joined December 2010
United States3704 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-16 21:30:03
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6196
Epic slow mode in the twitch chat lol
GG - UNiVeRsE is the best player in the WORLD
virpi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Germany3599 Posts
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6197
man the overlay they put in when the map is loading makes a terrible farting sound.
i can't get over that.
first we make expand, then we defense it.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6198
On September 17 2012 06:27 Aando wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:26 Mouzone wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:25 Tsubbi wrote:
ling bane control is the most unforgiving micro war in sc2, so fun to watch, so extremely horrible to play


Tell me about it, I always hated ZvZ because it's so damn stressful.

That was my favorite part when I played zerg. I was an old FPS player before I started with sc2 so I could pretty much out-micro anyone at my level.


Don't know how FPS experience help anything about micro in SC.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6199
On September 17 2012 06:26 Braric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:21 StarStruck wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:18 Braric wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:17 StarStruck wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:16 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:14 Youtakenocandle wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:13 stichtom wrote:
94k

Best e-sports event ever?


LOL has had close to 200k iirc.

but LoL isnt e-sports


You guys need to drop that shit.


Honestly it's not a good game, if you want to play a real MOBA then play Dota2, League of legends lacks intricacy and depth that make you appreciate the skill of the competitors.


Honestly one game is no more e-sport to another game and if you're going to use the damn word you better know it encompasses all games.

If you're a fan of SC2 then just say that. Don't use the word e-sport if you don't truly mean it.

It's hypocritical.


Wrong guy, but yes I don't support esports I support SC2 and other good games that aren't completely terrible and easy.

I like how fans of a dumbed down BW complain about LoL being a dumbed down dota.
Glorious SEA doto
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
September 16 2012 21:29 GMT
#6200
On September 17 2012 06:28 Hiea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2012 06:27 Mackus wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:26 forsooth wrote:
On September 17 2012 06:24 Schmoooopy wrote:
No, seriously, ZvZ is a potentially-awesome matchup, just as good as TvT in my opinion, but I honestly don't understand ANYTHING that's going on right now.

ZvZ can occasionally produce some great games but let's not go overboard.


There's having a great ZvZ game and there's having a tournament full of them which WCS Asia will have

Nah, we'll have another NASL Season 3, where the only matchup is PvZ.

If it's MC-Stephano level it's ok.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
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