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mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5741
sick series, can't see a better one happening tomorrow what with zvp generally being predictable but who knows
simmeh
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2511 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5742
On September 16 2012 07:31 zmansman17 wrote:
Anyone else down about a ZvZ final? Meh, not exciting at all and where are the Protoss?


wcs korea was all protoss
byah!
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5743
On September 16 2012 07:32 Zane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:29 rasnj wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:28 JonIrenicus wrote:
It seems to me that Lucifron doesn't know that unsieged tanks are better against single units like ultralisk, but maybe it was just a blunt that flashed into my mind and is not true.

It is true in isolation. Mix in infestors, lings and roaches and it is no longer true.

But I tested in the unit tester, pure unsieged tank beats ultra!!1 Seriously though, sieging after being caught unsieged is a poor choice.


Had he just attacked with his tanks, he still would have been killed, but it would have been much more cost efficient.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5744
holy shit that dreamhack valencia promo was pretty bad ass
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5745
On September 16 2012 07:28 mango_destroyer wrote:
all that money into banshees

I think he was going to continue till stephano made aspire, which he didnt.
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5746
On September 16 2012 07:31 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
I love that dude, He's like the best host ever


That "dude" is Redeye and is an esports legend. He's been in it for 10 or so years I think
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Uni1987
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands642 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5747
On September 16 2012 07:31 speknek wrote:
lucifron outplays him 3 games straight, 1-2 :D seems legit


Lol, you have no clue about this game.
.............
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5748
On September 16 2012 07:31 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:30 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:27 Nordmo wrote:
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

No they allways win their 1st tourny after they join (Huk MLG,Puma NASL,Thorzain wcs sweeden) and then they start only loosing.

Yep, even Idra was doing really well for a while after joining EG, but now look where he is .

Lol, people still talking about the curse like it's actually a thing...

Hey, how about that Liquid Curse? NonY and TLO used to be so baller back in Beta, guess Liquid Curse made them bad. Zenio? Code S Korean before he got picked up, Liquid curse kicked him out. Jinro? Ro4 Code S, Liquid Curse took its toll, now he's retired.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
September 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#5749
On September 16 2012 07:31 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
I love that dude, He's like the best host ever

^^ This. Redeye is amazing!
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5750
Overall great tournament. Good games, casters, hosts, etc. Couldn't be happier.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5751
ZvT still the most exciting matchup by far.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5752
On September 16 2012 07:32 zmansman17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:30 Flonomenalz wrote:
Yes, he killed 100 drones.

He also lost probably like 60 hellions for those 100 drones.

It's justified.


I think all games he kill at least 100 drones. But that is seldom enough, even if you get a good chunk of those drone kills early or in the mid game. It's amazing how easy it is for Zerg to just re-produce drones. And in the first game, this actually benefitted Stepahno since he hadn't mined out those crucial bases.


In BW these tradeoffs are extremely important especially for terran. Have to keep their econ in check.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5753
On September 16 2012 07:30 amiGo_O wrote:
this tournament shows how imporant loser bracket really is, three players who lost in first round are now in top 8

This needs to be emphasized.

Amazing runs through the lower bracket by Nerchio, Grubby, Happy.
Off-season = best season
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5754
Imagine the mule whine if T won 2 games of a series after losing 100 workers in each =p
StaplerPhone
Profile Joined March 2011
United States813 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5755
Great games today! Unfortunately bigger tournaments also leads to worse LR threads ;___;
NaDa | MC | HerO | DeMusliM | TaeJa | viOLet
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5756
What an amazing first day. Thx you Blizzard and Dreamhack.

And lol at the balance whiners 340 APM vs 100 and its still incredible close Not that APM actually mean anything just goes to show how hard Stephano worked for his wins
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5757
On September 16 2012 07:32 Master_Blaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:31 Porcelina wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:31 zmansman17 wrote:
Anyone else down about a ZvZ final? Meh, not exciting at all and where are the Protoss?


In Korea, apparently.


In HotS.

How about you save the balance whine until HOTS is actually out of Beta?
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5758
On September 16 2012 07:32 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:28 kaokentake wrote:
you can tell who the noob terrans are in this thread saying lucifron "should have sieged earlier"... rofl...

i always see mvp keep his tanks unsieged vs ultras and shift-click the ultras killing 10 ultras in 10 seconds and losing minimal tanks


sieging tanks vs ultras is HORRIBLE

140food of unsieged tanks crushes 140food of ultras

140food of ultras crushes 140food of sieged tanks

only siege a couple tanks vs ultras to deal with lings, and keep the rest unsieged and shiftclick ultras with unsieged tanks


sieging tanks vs ultras isnt horrible. the splash is still there. you can focus infestors with it as well
also, stephano had lings in his army either.

the main thing is that lucifron sieged in the fight - but he sieged very late. this way, they didnt fight at all^^
a bit too confident on the creep in the middle of the map, that one lost him the game.
its pretty hard not to do that mistake once in a 40 minute game - stephano punishes that immediatly though.



I agree here. That one mistake was what cost him the game, and the same can be said of him losing his 5 o clock base against 3 roaches in game 1.
♞ - His EKG is flattening get me a defib stat! Prepped and Ready! - ♞
Domus
Profile Joined March 2011
510 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5759
Fair win for Stephano, Luficron made a big error and lost for it. On another note, I only watched these finals and did not watch any of the earlier games. What matches do you guys recommend to go back and watch on twitch?
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
September 15 2012 22:34 GMT
#5760
On September 16 2012 07:31 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:31 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:30 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:27 Nordmo wrote:
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

No they allways win their 1st tourny after they join (Huk MLG,Puma NASL,Thorzain wcs sweeden) and then they start only loosing.

Yep, even Idra was doing really well for a while after joining EG, but now look where he is .

When will people stop posting this shit


its not bullshit its basicly happened to all players that joined EG, but we will see if stephano can keep winning after this tournament.
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