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mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
September 15 2012 22:31 GMT
#5721
On September 16 2012 07:29 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:28 Havik_ wrote:
I seriously hope Vortix smashes him tomorrow. I liked Stephano better before everyone hyped the shit outta him :p

OH IRONY

lol Stephano has gone down in hype oddly enough even as he gained more fans. Probably gained more fans due to the more reasonable hype. Havnt seen anyone saying he is the best in the world for ages
mambar
Profile Joined February 2012
United States841 Posts
September 15 2012 22:31 GMT
#5722
On September 16 2012 07:31 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:30 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:27 Nordmo wrote:
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

No they allways win their 1st tourny after they join (Huk MLG,Puma NASL,Thorzain wcs sweeden) and then they start only loosing.

Yep, even Idra was doing really well for a while after joining EG, but now look where he is .

When will people stop posting this shit
maLaK1
Profile Joined May 2012
Germany124 Posts
September 15 2012 22:31 GMT
#5723
how could he lose his first maxed mech army like that for free?
I cant believe this. it was his game
Skelith
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden101 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5724
On September 16 2012 07:30 Flonomenalz wrote:
Yes, he killed 100 drones.

He also lost probably like 60 hellions for those 100 drones.

It's justified.


not when ur making scvs and dropping mules behind
"There is no rest in the dark realm."
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:32:26
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5725
Great production, casters, players, amazing videos outside the event (Swedish people's reactions to Artosis, Redeye, Thorzain's oldest fan), and amazing games!! Love this tourney!
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5726
On September 16 2012 07:28 kaokentake wrote:
you can tell who the noob terrans are in this thread saying lucifron "should have sieged earlier"... rofl...

i always see mvp keep his tanks unsieged vs ultras and shift-click the ultras killing 10 ultras in 10 seconds and losing minimal tanks


sieging tanks vs ultras is HORRIBLE

140food of unsieged tanks crushes 140food of ultras

140food of ultras crushes 140food of sieged tanks

only siege a couple tanks vs ultras to deal with lings, and keep the rest unsieged and shiftclick ultras with unsieged tanks


sieging tanks vs ultras isnt horrible. the splash is still there. you can focus infestors with it as well
also, stephano had lings in his army either.

the main thing is that lucifron sieged in the fight - but he sieged very late. this way, they didnt fight at all^^
a bit too confident on the creep in the middle of the map, that one lost him the game.
its pretty hard not to do that mistake once in a 40 minute game - stephano punishes that immediatly though.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Master_Blaster
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom269 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5727
On September 16 2012 07:31 Porcelina wrote:
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On September 16 2012 07:31 zmansman17 wrote:
Anyone else down about a ZvZ final? Meh, not exciting at all and where are the Protoss?


In Korea, apparently.


In HotS.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5728
I'm impressed with lucifron's play overall
amazing games
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
SwansGoMoo
Profile Joined October 2011
United States145 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5729
I really hope we get to see Lucifron vs Nerchio tomorrow. Lucifron's games vs Stephano were simply epic.
Rube_Juice
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada348 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5730
On September 16 2012 07:31 NeWeNiyaLord wrote:
I love that dude, He's like the best host ever


Agreed, so classy!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5731
On September 16 2012 07:30 Vindicare605 wrote:
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On September 16 2012 07:28 kaokentake wrote:
you can tell who the noob terrans are in this thread saying lucifron "should have sieged earlier"... rofl...

i always see mvp keep his tanks unsieged vs ultras and shift-click the ultras killing 10 ultras in 10 seconds and losing minimal tanks


sieging tanks vs ultras is HORRIBLE

140food of unsieged tanks crushes 140food of ultras

140food of ultras crushes 140food of sieged tanks

only siege a couple tanks vs ultras to deal with lings, and keep the rest unsieged and shiftclick ultras with unsieged tanks


Sieging earlier is a better idea than going into siege mode when Stephano's army is right on top of you.

I agree that the unsieged Tanks would have probably done great against the Ultralisks, especially with such a small amount of Infested Terrans able to be thrown into the mix.

But what Lucifron did in that last engagement was THE worst thing you could do.


I think Lucifron managed to time it perfectly so he started sieging up right before any of Stephano's units were in range to be hit by an unsieged tank attack. So yes THE worst thing you could possibly do
dizzy101
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands2066 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5732
Infested terrans make even sieged tanks pretty useless. He needed some way to sap the energy from those infestors... I wonder if there's a unit in the terran arsenal for that.
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5733
On September 16 2012 07:29 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:28 JonIrenicus wrote:
It seems to me that Lucifron doesn't know that unsieged tanks are better against single units like ultralisk, but maybe it was just a blunt that flashed into my mind and is not true.

It is true in isolation. Mix in infestors, lings and roaches and it is no longer true.

But I tested in the unit tester, pure unsieged tank beats ultra!!1 Seriously though, sieging after being caught unsieged is a poor choice.
DuckNuked
Profile Joined June 2012
France60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-15 22:34:05
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5734
I'm meching TvZ everiday.

Against Ultras, you don't siege tanks. maybe one or two. But they have even more DPS than Thors against ultra unsieged. But FAR LESS on siege. Lucifron is very good, but that was just bad play from him. And for every Zerg whinner. Saying Stephano A-click: have you really watched the game mans? Or are you just stupids?

And for the race who have the less anti-air in the game, and the more H2H units. If fungal hit the air, i'm totally for it. If not, Zerg coulden't do anything but mutas everygames.
Terran Forum "TvP HELP", Protoss Forum "PvZ HELP!", Zerg Forum: "What use for Hydra???"
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5735
On September 16 2012 07:30 Flonomenalz wrote:
Yes, he killed 100 drones.

He also lost probably like 60 hellions for those 100 drones.

It's justified.


I think all games he kill at least 100 drones. But that is seldom enough, even if you get a good chunk of those drone kills early or in the mid game. It's amazing how easy it is for Zerg to just re-produce drones. And in the first game, this actually benefitted Stepahno since he hadn't mined out those crucial bases.
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mccarthyaw
Profile Joined April 2012
50 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5736
On September 16 2012 07:31 zmansman17 wrote:
Anyone else down about a ZvZ final? Meh, not exciting at all and where are the Protoss?


It isn't a ZvZ final, we don't know what the final will be yet. Could be Z vs. anything.
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5737
On September 16 2012 07:31 speknek wrote:
lucifron outplays him 3 games straight, 1-2 :D seems legit


It takes incredible skill and determination to hold on after such pressure Stephano has brilliant game awareness and control. People need to serious stop posting Lucifron out played him every series. Stephano worked really damn hard for his wins.
I am Godzilla You are Japan
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5738
On September 16 2012 07:31 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:31 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:30 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:27 Nordmo wrote:
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

No they allways win their 1st tourny after they join (Huk MLG,Puma NASL,Thorzain wcs sweeden) and then they start only loosing.

Yep, even Idra was doing really well for a while after joining EG, but now look where he is .

When will people stop posting this shit


Guy's training hasn't been the same man. Toned down practice for this guy = poor results.

Science.
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5739
On September 16 2012 07:31 mambar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2012 07:31 ZAiNs wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:30 kruxey wrote:
On September 16 2012 07:27 Nordmo wrote:
THE CURSE IS BROKEN

No they allways win their 1st tourny after they join (Huk MLG,Puma NASL,Thorzain wcs sweeden) and then they start only loosing.

Yep, even Idra was doing really well for a while after joining EG, but now look where he is .

When will people stop posting this shit


When other organizations are able to compete with the funding of EG.
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
September 15 2012 22:32 GMT
#5740
This Valencia video looks really good.
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