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neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
August 28 2012 13:51 GMT
#3561
On August 28 2012 13:53 Akhee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 12:20 neoghaleon55 wrote:
On August 28 2012 12:14 ]343[ wrote:
On August 28 2012 12:06 Fionn wrote:
On August 28 2012 11:42 Xiphos wrote:
Why would anyone listen to English caster is something that myself and many cannot fathom.


Why would anyone listen to a language they have no understanding of?

+ Show Spoiler +
I prefer Korean commentary for Brood War and am not the biggest fan of Moletrap, but some people prefer to actually listen to something they can understand.


Yeah, English commentary walks a fine line between "being understandable" and "being bad." (Except Sayle! :D And maybe ooooophidian; I haven't heard you though... :/)



Sad but true, many English casters have no idea what they're saying.
It was irritating as hell to listen to MLG casters this weekend.
I'm only gold level and it's sad that I know more than some of these "professional" casters.

Doa and Moletrap are decent at play-by-play, but neither of them are any good at analytical casting.

I was watching DRG play MMA at IPL LA (doa & cats pajamas), and I could spot the difference between a 3 hatch or a roach bane rush a whole 3 minutes before the casters have a clue. Thinking about this keeps me up at night sometimes.


if you are in gold theres no way in hell you know more than professional casters, maybe you know marauder counters stalker and zergling is not good against zealot but they actually know what they are talking about

i hope you dont take it too offensive but a lot of people in your level of the game think they know a lot and thats not... really... the truth...



That's why I said it was sad that I do!
And you're wrong, not all casters are knowlegeable about the game, a great many of them lack basic understanding of it.
And yes you are correct, I don't know anything about matchups that are not Zerg related.
But with Zerg, since I'm DRG's little stalker, I do know all his builds and timings.
Plus I quit all my zvzs, so rank means nothing :/
moo...for DRG
Killuah
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden3 Posts
August 28 2012 13:51 GMT
#3562
anyone who can link the nestea vs fantasy games? cant find it in the vods =(
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
August 28 2012 13:51 GMT
#3563
On August 28 2012 22:51 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 22:48 TheFish7 wrote:
Aw damnit I slept right through this. Anyone knows where to find VODs?

The only reason I would hate on a BO1 format is MAPS. The mapping scene in SC2 is way underdeveloped (mostly due to blizzard and tournaments refusal to use custom maps) and as a result we still have a lot of maps that really favor one race. Entombed Valley and Antiga Shipyard are both guilty of this.


if things goes well and there is a second os2l, korean map making teams should do great stuff


man proleague gonna develop the mapping scene I bet.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 13:53:27
August 28 2012 13:53 GMT
#3564
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.
Play your best
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
August 28 2012 13:54 GMT
#3565
Are Korean VODs available I missed the first half?
intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
August 28 2012 13:54 GMT
#3566
I'm amazed that NesTea lost to be honest but then again isn't ZvT his worst matchup historically?
kiss kiss fall in love
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#3567
On August 28 2012 22:50 SHOOG wrote:
I guessed them all correctly ^^ I felt bad about voting against Nestea though.
Did he play badly against Fantasy? Or did Fantasy out play him?


A bit of both.Nestea failing again with the drop defense mostly.
Play your best
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 13:55:51
August 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#3568
If ratings turn out ok, I can imagine this beeing sort of a new life for korean pro gaming shows on tv.
If this happens and if the first ever os2l winner isn't one of the already high salary kespa pros, I can't begin to imagine what kind of contract he'll get from skt / kt
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50592 Posts
August 28 2012 13:55 GMT
#3569
On August 28 2012 22:54 Sinensis wrote:
Are Korean VODs available I missed the first half?


go to OGN's website in an hour.

I'll try to find them in places where they shouldn't be found, of course I won't share these places.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 28 2012 13:58 GMT
#3570
now all we have to hope is for OGN to developp their online platform crazy and possibly make it foreign friendly >.> (lets not hope for too much tho)
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 14:00:32
August 28 2012 13:58 GMT
#3571
On August 28 2012 22:55 Boonbag wrote:
If ratings turn out ok, I can imagine this beeing sort of a new life for korean pro gaming shows on tv.
If this happens and if the first ever os2l winner isn't one of the already high salary kespa pros, I can't begin to imagine what kind of contract he'll get from skt / kt


Sorry but no.
Kespa and ESF can't transfer players between each other until October 2013.
Even if the first SC2 OSL winner is someone from the non-Kespa group,Kespa can't give them a contract till then.
Read this thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359009
http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013

By October 2013, i expected the playing field to be even with Kespa having a bit more players at the very very top.
Play your best
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#3572
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


Jangbi didn't get a tough draw. He picked DRG himself. Guess he thought DRG was slumping hard or maybe he was really confident vs Z.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 28 2012 13:59 GMT
#3573
On August 28 2012 22:58 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 22:55 Boonbag wrote:
If ratings turn out ok, I can imagine this beeing sort of a new life for korean pro gaming shows on tv.
If this happens and if the first ever os2l winner isn't one of the already high salary kespa pros, I can't begin to imagine what kind of contract he'll get from skt / kt


Sorry but no.
Kespa and ESF can't transfer players between each other until October 2013.
Even if the first SC2 OSL winner is someone from the non-Kespa group,Kespa can't give them a contract till then.
Read this thread.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=359009
http://esfiworld.com/news/kespa-esports-fed-agree-trade-lock-until-oct-2013


i know about that but Koreans have a tendency to bend rules whenever they feel the need for it
antifan
Profile Joined August 2012
116 Posts
August 28 2012 14:00 GMT
#3574
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


I see no resemblance between Parting and a dishwasher...
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 28 2012 14:01 GMT
#3575
On August 28 2012 22:59 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


Jangbi didn't get a tough draw. He picked DRG himself. Guess he thought DRG was slumping hard or maybe he was really confident vs Z.


more like he watched p's in wcs stomping zergs right and left and thought it'd be fine with a strong 2 weeks total practice in sc2
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#3576
On August 28 2012 23:00 antifan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


I see no resemblance between Parting and a dishwasher...


Never watched the OSL Ro16 Group Selection?XD
He has earned his nickname there.

July always asking Parting to wash dishes everytime.
Hence, " Dishwashertoss "
Play your best
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#3577
On August 28 2012 22:59 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


Jangbi didn't get a tough draw. He picked DRG himself. Guess he thought DRG was slumping hard or maybe he was really confident vs Z.


Yeah you are right about that.
Play your best
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
August 28 2012 14:04 GMT
#3578
why would you sign say mvp to a big deal when his ability level is already known and in time he won't be at the top any more? look at the first few gsls, would you sign those winners to big deals?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
August 28 2012 14:07 GMT
#3579
On August 28 2012 23:04 oneofthem wrote:
why would you sign say mvp to a big deal when his ability level is already known and in time he won't be at the top any more? look at the first few gsls, would you sign those winners to big deals?


because it's on TV and TV hype gets you to do insane tv adds

I remember back then boxer scoring a 50k deal with IBM for an add (took a 4 hours shooting). And that was like 2001-2
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
August 28 2012 14:13 GMT
#3580
On August 28 2012 22:53 FakeDeath wrote:
Fantasy and Flash gone through as i expected.
No upsets really.

DRG and Parting advancing as expected.
T.T for Jangbang getting a tough draw who is DRG.Fan of both but at least Jangbi got 2 consecutive BW OSLs.

Dishwashertoss showing how it's done against Baby.


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