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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 14:10:13
August 17 2012 14:09 GMT
#1701
On August 17 2012 23:08 Redox wrote:
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On August 17 2012 23:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
As much as I love seeing less-established names win (especially from the Americas), every time it's a Zerg I die a little inside.

Yeah god forbid Zerg wins games. I mean, who wants that?


It's not that Zerg win, it's the way that they win.

Well, maybe it is about Zerg winning. Just a little bit.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 14:10 GMT
#1702
On August 17 2012 23:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
As much as I love seeing less-established names win (especially from the Americas), every time it's a Zerg I die a little inside. I mean really, can anyone tell me that they actually enjoy watching the Zerg playstyle of turtle until Infestor/Broodlord?


well considering that the opening was exciting yea it was a good game
EmmeCY
Profile Joined June 2012
Malaysia417 Posts
August 17 2012 14:10 GMT
#1703
I wanna watch some MC, where is it?
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
August 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#1704
On August 17 2012 23:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
As much as I love seeing less-established names win (especially from the Americas), every time it's a Zerg I die a little inside. I mean really, can anyone tell me that they actually enjoy watching the Zerg playstyle of turtle until Infestor/Broodlord?


KiLLeR is hardly less established. He got 3rd at an IEM last year, New York I believe. He's easily one of the best players from the Americas and always has been.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#1705
Nice, it will be Supernova vs Killer on GLHF! Always love me some ZvT
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
gcruz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 14:11 GMT
#1706
supernova killer on glhf

anybody know where MC is at
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#1707
On August 17 2012 23:11 Dexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
As much as I love seeing less-established names win (especially from the Americas), every time it's a Zerg I die a little inside. I mean really, can anyone tell me that they actually enjoy watching the Zerg playstyle of turtle until Infestor/Broodlord?


KiLLeR is hardly less established. He got 3rd at an IEM last year, New York I believe. He's easily one of the best players from the Americas and always has been.

Killer won a recent msi online tournament which included him beating tails and taeja he's legit.
Glorious SEA doto
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
August 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#1708
Missed group C. Happy to see elfi made it out. ^^
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
August 17 2012 14:12 GMT
#1709
On August 17 2012 23:09 Fusilero wrote:
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On August 17 2012 23:08 Mentalizor wrote:
... I just realized... Out of a lot of ZvP fastpools I've seen lately - even if the protoss holds the pool with minimal losses he will still have horrible chance of winning (at least from my experience, when watching tournaments and streams)

Take entombed out of those wins and I wonder how many wins will be there, I'm certain that protosses just need to cut back on the greed as all zergs do these fast pools.


It happened a lot on TDA aswell. Since it isn't in tournament pools anymore, I don't know if that would count. But zerg only tend to do it, if the map lets them have similar economy (too difficult 3rd for the Z / too easilly taken 3rd for P). Obviously, if the zerg can go 3base v 2base he'll do that every time... And on top of that fastpooling on spacebear and metropolis would be suicide
(yಠ,ಠ)y - Y U NO ALL IN? - rtsAlaran: " I somehow sit inside the bus.Hot_Bit giving me a massage"
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
August 17 2012 14:13 GMT
#1710
LOL Tasteless, that was hilarious.
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
August 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#1711
fiend mirror incoming :/
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
snafoo
Profile Joined August 2010
New Zealand1615 Posts
August 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#1712
Seems like they really love showing PvZ on the mainstream 0_o
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
August 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#1713
I feel they need Take to explain the trade fair audience in German how/why to cheer. Cheer was so underwhelming for Hasu (from Cologne) it might have got into his head.
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 17 2012 14:14 GMT
#1714
On August 17 2012 23:08 Orek wrote:
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On August 17 2012 23:06 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 graNite wrote:
nobody can tell me that chain fungal is not too strong... seriously...

This is so disgusting to watch. Did you see Bomber's Ravens in his game against Slivko on Daybreak? 2k+ gas gone in chain Fungals...


but you blame zerg when nestea loses 2k+ gas to HSM? how does it even make sense?

To be fair, a Zerg who cannot split BL/corruptor deserve to lose. A Terran who cannot split raven/viking deserve to lose as well.


Fungal removes the ability to pull back, removes micro and punishes too hard... HSM is dodgable, and Raven require to get so much closer. In addition to only be able to get enough energy for one HSM for every Raven it's not comparable. Infestors are good in every matchup, versus everything.
The Bomber boy
sc2pal
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland624 Posts
August 17 2012 14:15 GMT
#1715
lol 7 protoss 1 zerg 1 terran
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#1716
On August 17 2012 23:14 Rain.100 wrote:
fiend mirror incoming :/

I would actually prefer that to PvZ :D
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
August 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#1717
VortiX didn't beat Feast for qualify. Little mistake.
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#1718
Just played the sickest PvP ever, had so much fun. Now time to watch some geymzzzz
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
August 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#1719
On August 17 2012 23:08 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:06 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 graNite wrote:
nobody can tell me that chain fungal is not too strong... seriously...

This is so disgusting to watch. Did you see Bomber's Ravens in his game against Slivko on Daybreak? 2k+ gas gone in chain Fungals...


but you blame zerg when nestea loses 2k+ gas to HSM? how does it even make sense?

To be fair, a Zerg who cannot split BL/corruptor deserve to lose. A Terran who cannot split raven/viking deserve to lose as well.

I do blame Bomber for clumping his Ravens, but it does not change anything about chain Fungals being stupid and absolutely boring to watch.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 17 2012 14:16 GMT
#1720
On August 17 2012 23:14 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 23:08 Orek wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:06 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 23:04 graNite wrote:
nobody can tell me that chain fungal is not too strong... seriously...

This is so disgusting to watch. Did you see Bomber's Ravens in his game against Slivko on Daybreak? 2k+ gas gone in chain Fungals...


but you blame zerg when nestea loses 2k+ gas to HSM? how does it even make sense?

To be fair, a Zerg who cannot split BL/corruptor deserve to lose. A Terran who cannot split raven/viking deserve to lose as well.


Fungal removes the ability to pull back, removes micro and punishes too hard... HSM is dodgable, and Raven require to get so much closer. In addition to only be able to get enough energy for one HSM for every Raven it's not comparable. Infestors are good in every matchup, versus everything.


I think this is what a lot of Zergs don't get. It's not that BL/Infestor is just "stupid awesome imba", it's just that's it's too effective compared to how easy it is to use. Fungal is entirely too powerful and punishing. It really shouldn't straight up root units and it should have a slightly shorter range.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
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