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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#501
On August 17 2012 17:37 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


ye, but that argument is fail as well. in the old farseer metagame, orc WAS weak. The reason for it isnt important -,- thats like saying zerg was never weak at the beginning of sc2 because ppl just failed at macro and never teched to t3.


That's just bad logic. Just because players don't know how to play their race properly doesn't mean the race is weak. It means the players are weak.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:40:18
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#502
On August 17 2012 17:37 KalWarkov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


ye, but that argument is fail as well. in the old farseer metagame, orc WAS weak. The reason for it isnt important -,- thats like saying zerg was never weak at the beginning of sc2 because ppl just failed at macro and never teched to t3.


I guess I worded it wrong.
Yes Orc was weak but if i am not mistaken during 2008 period people realize how strong Blademaster is and it is that pushed Orc to be one of the strongest till now.
Play your best
EuLoGy[kTw]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#503
On August 17 2012 17:38 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


The most legit argument I've ever seen right here.

Not an argument, a statement. Watch him win the PvZ's and then own bomber, will be great.
ContrailNZ
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand306 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#504
I guess Grubby is a bit unlucky in that he didn't 'get to watch Elfi's games, while Elfi saw Grubby vs Oz and Ace yesterday.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#505
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.

This absolutely blows my mind in so many ways
We're talking about Chad Jones right? The same guy that got destroyed by Puzzle in the TSL Quali, by Clide, Axslav, monster and lord knows who else at MLG right?
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#506
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


Please stop i am confinced by all the sense you make !
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#507
On August 17 2012 17:39 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:38 Dodgin wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


The most legit argument I've ever seen right here.

Not an argument, a statement. Watch him win the PvZ's and then own bomber, will be great.


il be prepared with his 6th place
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#508
On August 17 2012 17:39 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:38 Dodgin wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


The most legit argument I've ever seen right here.

Not an argument, a statement. Watch him win the PvZ's and then own bomber, will be great.

I will quote you on this so you can't change this statement.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#509
On August 17 2012 17:36 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


I mean, if no one was using Blademaster then it could be the weakest in the metagame without being the weakest in terms of potential.

BM got buffed a couple times before getting there, I think the first player to "discover" BM centered strats was Zacard.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#510
On August 17 2012 17:39 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:38 Dodgin wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


The most legit argument I've ever seen right here.

Not an argument, a statement. Watch him win the PvZ's and then own bomber, will be great.


I would be pleasantly surprised to see that happen, seems unlikely though! We'll see what happens !
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#511
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


Watch Bomber's stream. Heck compare their achievements. You are being bad.
The Bomber boy
EuLoGy[kTw]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 08:40 GMT
#512
On August 17 2012 17:39 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.

This absolutely blows my mind in so many ways
We're talking about Chad Jones right? The same guy that got destroyed by Puzzle in the TSL Quali, by Clide, Axslav, monster and lord knows who else at MLG right?

He only lost in pvps and at MLG he lost to koreans.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:42:09
August 17 2012 08:41 GMT
#513
On August 17 2012 17:39 AndAgain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:37 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


ye, but that argument is fail as well. in the old farseer metagame, orc WAS weak. The reason for it isnt important -,- thats like saying zerg was never weak at the beginning of sc2 because ppl just failed at macro and never teched to t3.


That's just bad logic. Just because players don't know how to play their race properly doesn't mean the race is weak. It means the players are weak.

Just means the metagame hadn't developed by then, not that the players were weak.

Also, BM got buffed.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
August 17 2012 08:41 GMT
#514
On August 17 2012 17:40 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:39 Whatson wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.

This absolutely blows my mind in so many ways
We're talking about Chad Jones right? The same guy that got destroyed by Puzzle in the TSL Quali, by Clide, Axslav, monster and lord knows who else at MLG right?

He only lost in pvps and at MLG he lost to koreans.

So Koreans don't count? I thought you said he was the best player in the group. There is a Korean in the group. A good one.



RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7798 Posts
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#515
On August 17 2012 17:40 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:39 Whatson wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.

This absolutely blows my mind in so many ways
We're talking about Chad Jones right? The same guy that got destroyed by Puzzle in the TSL Quali, by Clide, Axslav, monster and lord knows who else at MLG right?

He only lost in pvps and at MLG he lost to koreans.

There's a Korean in his group, buddy.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
Vapaach
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland994 Posts
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#516
On August 17 2012 17:39 ContrailNZ wrote:
I guess Grubby is a bit unlucky in that he didn't 'get to watch Elfi's games, while Elfi saw Grubby vs Oz and Ace yesterday.


I don't think it would have mattered, Elfi's playstyle is way too unpredictable anyways : P

If you never try you never know. Sase - Mana - TLO - WhiteRa - Naniwa - Sheth - HuK
EuLoGy[kTw]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#517
On August 17 2012 17:41 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:40 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:39 Whatson wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.

This absolutely blows my mind in so many ways
We're talking about Chad Jones right? The same guy that got destroyed by Puzzle in the TSL Quali, by Clide, Axslav, monster and lord knows who else at MLG right?

He only lost in pvps and at MLG he lost to koreans.

So Koreans don't count? I thought you said he was the best player in the group. There is a Korean in the group. A good one.




I'm just saying he lost to respectable players at MLG.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:42:54
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#518
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


Yeye he is the best player in the world when he is streaming... Nevermind actual results. Minigun is better than Bomber because you like his stream..... Who the hell are you to call somebody a dick
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#519
On August 17 2012 17:40 IshinShishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:36 flowSthead wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


I mean, if no one was using Blademaster then it could be the weakest in the metagame without being the weakest in terms of potential.

BM got buffed a couple times before getting there, I think the first player to "discover" BM centered strats was Zacard.


yep, zacard was the one who started using it instead of farseer. Then Lyn and violet were the ones who started the whole items stack shit (claws, rings, etc.) on the bm.
Terran & Potato Salad.
sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
August 17 2012 08:42 GMT
#520
gogo Chad !! U can do it !!
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