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EuLoGy[kTw]
Profile Joined July 2012
United States82 Posts
August 17 2012 08:36 GMT
#481
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
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On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.
xmungam
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1050 Posts
August 17 2012 08:36 GMT
#482
On August 17 2012 17:35 Orek wrote:
Race you play = weakest
Race that just beat you = best
The other race = inbetween

ahahhah i play all races!!!!
youtube.com/xmungam ~~ twitch.tv/thenessman
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
August 17 2012 08:36 GMT
#483
On August 17 2012 17:36 Champloo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:30 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Oh well, mOOnGLaDe took a game off the best Protoss in the group in his weakest match-up.

I think GLaDe will crush elfi after seeing this. elfi's forcefields are quite infamous haha.

Lol, I love your confidence with SEA players... I highly doubt he will crush Elfi.


It's not with SEA players. I didn't think PiG had a chance in his group. SEA players are fucked in the FXOpen Invitational Series too (except tgun)

mOOnGLaDe's group is one I looked at, just like last IEM and said "Yep. GLaDe can advance from this."


How do you still see him advancing? Elfi's PvZ is better than Grubby's and Slivko is a ZvZ beast. Moonglade might beat Minigun and maybe Bomber, but that won't be enough to advance.

Huh?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
ContrailNZ
Profile Joined January 2007
New Zealand306 Posts
August 17 2012 08:36 GMT
#484
NE / HU were the best race if they played perfect (unless HU had to 1 base)

ORC were the next best and UD a distant last.

I think Moonglade looked a bit out of shape still. Missing some mechanics and he didn't seem to have the confidence to control a late game BL / Infestor style.

Grubby will need to bring out some new tactics vs Slivko.
TwilightRain
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany351 Posts
August 17 2012 08:36 GMT
#485
Bomber looks more and more like Squirtle
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16849 Posts
August 17 2012 08:37 GMT
#486
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm



WOWOWOWOWOW. Good luck dude. Minigun is OK at best. Grubster is probably better than him, as is slivko and moonglade. Bomber is... Bomber.
The Bomber boy
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
August 17 2012 08:37 GMT
#487
mOOnGLaDe vs Bomber next on glhf.tv

Looking forward to this one.
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 17 2012 08:37 GMT
#488
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
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On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


ye, but that argument is fail as well. in the old farseer metagame, orc WAS weak. The reason for it isnt important -,- thats like saying zerg was never weak at the beginning of sc2 because ppl just failed at macro and never teched to t3.
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
Vaftrudner
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden1185 Posts
August 17 2012 08:37 GMT
#489
On August 17 2012 17:35 Orek wrote:
Race you play = weakest
Race that just beat you = best
The other race = inbetween

The race you play is not only the weakest, it also takes the most skill, APM and micro. The race that beat you just a moves and its mechanics are obviously fundamentally flawed
"Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one." - Day9
kaokentake
Profile Joined July 2012
383 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-17 08:38:44
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#490
AT LEAST this host doesnt yell out the names like clutch


i have to say i definitely am annoyed by clutch 100x more than jeremy


now my god, imagine if jeremy came out and started yelling out the names like clutch. HOLY CRAP now THAT would be ultimate level of annoyance
Rain.100
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany946 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#491
On August 17 2012 17:35 vthree wrote:
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On August 17 2012 17:15 Orek wrote:
I think it is time for Terran to admit that raven itself is good. Terran winrate when there are 5+ ravens is like 80%+ as far as I remember. 10+ ravens is 100% from all games I have seen. The only problem is that most of the time, Terran cannot get there and BL/infestor late game army kills Terran before Terran reaches that super late game stage. Most maps don't allow this because usually 4+ preferably 5 bases are needed to go that super late game composition for Terran. If Zerg doesn't split and lose whole army to HSM, then he deserve to lose. If Terran doesn't split and lose all ravens to fungal, then he deserve to lose as well. Map size/arrangement can make this super late game very viable. (Metropolis is probably the best map for this.)


And manner mules are a good unit. Because they have 99% win rate...

hahaha :D
dropping manner mules and then getting crushed by remax
always the best feeling
I have to return some videotapes. Maru and MarineLorD <3
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#492
I like Grubby's new haircut.

....


What!? It's better than the WC3 discussion at least.
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#493
You beat 2 korean protoss Grubby you better beat Elfi to But it's elfi ... he even scares me and i don't even play Protoss.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#494
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


The most legit argument I've ever seen right here.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#495
On August 17 2012 17:36 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:36 Champloo wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:31 RPR_Tempest wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:30 AxionSteel wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:27 RPR_Tempest wrote:
Oh well, mOOnGLaDe took a game off the best Protoss in the group in his weakest match-up.

I think GLaDe will crush elfi after seeing this. elfi's forcefields are quite infamous haha.

Lol, I love your confidence with SEA players... I highly doubt he will crush Elfi.


It's not with SEA players. I didn't think PiG had a chance in his group. SEA players are fucked in the FXOpen Invitational Series too (except tgun)

mOOnGLaDe's group is one I looked at, just like last IEM and said "Yep. GLaDe can advance from this."


How do you still see him advancing? Elfi's PvZ is better than Grubby's and Slivko is a ZvZ beast. Moonglade might beat Minigun and maybe Bomber, but that won't be enough to advance.

Huh?


i dont get it either^^
elfi has some very abusive pvz builds, but i wouldnt call his pvz as good as grubbys overall
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#496
On August 17 2012 17:36 flowSthead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 FakeDeath wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:34 flowSthead wrote:
Wasn't Grubby one of the main reasons Orc stop being considered the weakest race?


Orc was never the weakest race .lol
People just fail to realize the potential of Blademaster.


I mean, if no one was using Blademaster then it could be the weakest in the metagame without being the weakest in terms of potential.

Metagame-wise, I think UD and Orc are similarly restricted.

Though FS first is still used today, btw. A lot of top Orcs (Lyn, Fly, FoCuS) are playing FS first nowadays to deal with HU tower rush.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#497
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


Quality post.

In all seriousness, Minigun is good. I've never seen him at a lan event but he does beat good people on stream frequently.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
August 17 2012 08:38 GMT
#498
It's so horrible to hear random hosts or commentators attempt and fail to pick up the jokes or references made by people with great timing and who have the social standing to give something off themselves and for it to be charming.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#499
On August 17 2012 17:36 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 17:35 KalWarkov wrote:
On August 17 2012 17:33 EuLoGy[kTw] wrote:
Minigun gets too nervous, he's better than probably everyone in his group if he plays calm


no, hes surely not.


He surely is, watch his stream. Him and stephano are the only players I watch. Because they are the only ones that impress me. Minigun is really fucking good, and I hope karma fucks you in the ass for being a dick.


Yep, this one is angry. Son, you need to calm down.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 17 2012 08:39 GMT
#500
On August 17 2012 17:37 RPR_Tempest wrote:
mOOnGLaDe vs Bomber next on glhf.tv

Looking forward to this one.


you shouldnt lol, its gonna be carnage
prime/startale/[SexComaZerg, RoyalRoaderZerg, SirLifealot] ingame ID = GoodGame
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