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jeri
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany335 Posts
August 16 2012 12:41 GMT
#1961
On August 16 2012 21:36 Hazzyboy wrote:
Jaedong is simply tits! There's nothing cooler than him! Kespa clearly will win this and MC along with MVP saw the smoke and ran away just in time lol but he can't run 4ever...


haha true story
"The voices are back. Excellent." Dexter Morgan
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1962
On August 16 2012 21:36 Holgerius wrote:
So, how many Bo3s in a row have Kespa players won now vs GOM players?

10.

How many Bo3's did the GOM players obviously, blatantly choke in? I.E. make it WAY easier for their opponent to win in?

At LEAST 6 of those. And that's only cause I missed 4 of the games. Seriously, if you see a GOM player play well, and get beat, that's much more notable.

DRG doesn't even count, he hasn't won an important match since he lost to MC. I didn't see Gumiho's games, and Genius certainly wasn't a genius in that series.

I think the SC2 fans are being too anti BW with "GOM pros are just playing like shit" (they are) but not giving credit to kespa players who are playing fairly well (plenty of code A talent in them) but BW elitists need to sit up and realize that these wins mean very little other than the fact that kespa players scare the shit out of GOM pros.

Also, keep in mind these are 6 HAND Picked players by kespa, the very best at SC2 in their league (plus reality). The talent is certainly not inclusive for the entire league =. Just look at Bisu right now.
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1963
On August 16 2012 21:40 figq wrote:
Latest stats:
[image loading]


Realistically GOM has more than 0 though, they did dominate in the winners bracket after all. So its more like 6-12 or something (counting RorO's continued existence in winners bracket)
Suppy fan | ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ WELL MET ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ | http://www.twitter.com/8mmspikes
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1964
On August 16 2012 21:40 figq wrote:
Latest stats:
[image loading]


Losing initial match and go down to loser's bracket = data collecting
Loser's bracket = we learned everything already. time to march.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1965
What actually is scary is that the Kespa players are only devoting part of their practice time to SC2, they still have to play BW every second week in the Proleague.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1966
On August 16 2012 21:41 Sekken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:40 opterown wrote:
it's okay, i figured it out, JYP touched all the gom players


He touched them huh?

Reference to:
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1967
On August 16 2012 21:40 opterown wrote:
it's okay, i figured it out, JYP touched all the gom players

thats sexual harassment, where's their lawyer!?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1968
People can make excuses all they want. But it is 10:0 in the past 10 games. Gom players need to pull themselves together. The pressure is only going to get bigger the more this streak continues.
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1969
On August 16 2012 21:41 Sekken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:40 opterown wrote:
it's okay, i figured it out, JYP touched all the gom players


He touched them huh?


IEM joke about JYP's touching making Naniwa (and everyone else JYP touches) lose
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1970
On August 16 2012 21:40 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:36 setzer wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:35 Wintex wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:33 Fubi wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:32 TeeTS wrote:
GSL players seem to have lost their game understanding. Maybe their are just too pressured by the situation, but the awful decisionmaking is the only reason for Kespa's players success. really frustrating to watch those games :o

Or maybe the Kespa players just played... better? I mean they are the better players afterall


Stop viewing this with your rose-tinted glasses. In no way do you see them get supply blocked, stop for 15 seconds to make a decision etcetera etcetera in this magnitude. This is beyond bad GSL play. I'm not impressed by the KeSPA players until they start winning versus people that are in the winners bracket now. Cause this is fucking embarassing.


Beating Genius, DRG, Gumiho is not impressive at all to you?

Not when they play frucking terrible.


But Kespa players win 10 Bo3s against GOM players?

Kespa players are making the GOM players look bad by playing better.

You got no idea how fast Kespa player can level up through their strict 12 hours training regimen.
Play your best
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1971
I love how every Kespa victory is solely because GOM players have bad nerves/just happen to be playing terribly in that particular match. Keep telling yourself that.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 16 2012 12:42 GMT
#1972
On August 16 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:40 Shock710 wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:36 Porcelina wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:35 .Riot wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:33 ceaRshaf wrote:
They are here.

[image loading]

And are here to stay.
WE NEED A LEGOLAS.


Hahahaha.

Well played.

but we have everyone Aragorn Fantasy, Legolas bisu, , Gandalf stork, Gimli Baby, sauron Flash ect ect

too bad bisu isn't winning much so far

Just wait till the final battle where Bisu just wreaks everyone smoothly and sexily
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1973
On August 16 2012 21:40 figq wrote:
Latest stats:
[image loading]


Can you make one that adds the results of the winner's bracket as well?
Fubi
Profile Joined March 2011
2228 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1974
On August 16 2012 21:35 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:33 Fubi wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:32 TeeTS wrote:
GSL players seem to have lost their game understanding. Maybe their are just too pressured by the situation, but the awful decisionmaking is the only reason for Kespa's players success. really frustrating to watch those games :o

Or maybe the Kespa players just played... better? I mean they are the better players afterall


Stop viewing this with your rose-tinted glasses. In no way do you see them get supply blocked, stop for 15 seconds to make a decision etcetera etcetera in this magnitude. This is beyond bad GSL play. I'm not impressed by the KeSPA players until they start winning versus people that are in the winners bracket now. Cause this is fucking embarassing.

LOL someone is so angry; you realized that technically, in a double elimination, everyone, aside from the winner, will be in the Loser's bracket right? So your argument doesn't even make sense. Fact of the matter is, they've already beaten Symbol, Nestea, DRG, Genius, Gumiho, Yugioh, Happy, Tails, etc etc etc. Yea all these guys must be slumping together.
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1975
On August 16 2012 21:41 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:39 Kznn wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:35 Wintex wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:33 Fubi wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:32 TeeTS wrote:
GSL players seem to have lost their game understanding. Maybe their are just too pressured by the situation, but the awful decisionmaking is the only reason for Kespa's players success. really frustrating to watch those games :o

Or maybe the Kespa players just played... better? I mean they are the better players afterall


Stop viewing this with your rose-tinted glasses. In no way do you see them get supply blocked, stop for 15 seconds to make a decision etcetera etcetera in this magnitude. This is beyond bad GSL play. I'm not impressed by the KeSPA players until they start winning versus people that are in the winners bracket now. Cause this is fucking embarassing.



this is so sad to read.
Kespa players lose first round "oh they are terrible"
Kespa players wins losers round 1 against x player "not impressed, want to see him face a good player like gumiho or genius, they will get destroyed"
Kespa players wins again "bla bla bla bla gsl players just played bad and kespa players are still bad bla bla bla "


....

come on guys, we can all see a huge improvemente on their play, there is no fucking reason to denie that they are doing good.


Please... Watch GSL every day like I do, and expect this bullshit they are doing. It's like expecting an A+ and getting a B-. KeSPA players are playing fine. Not impressed. The opponent doesn't matter. I want to see the opponent play like the Code S caliber he is, not like some master's league NA scrub.


Put a NA master's leaguer against them and they will seem Code S to you. They are not actually playing like master's league players at all.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1976
On August 16 2012 21:42 deconduo wrote:
What actually is scary is that the Kespa players are only devoting part of their practice time to SC2, they still have to play BW every second week in the Proleague.


Heh, to be fair. If you watch proleague, it is pretty obvious most of their practice is in SC2. There has been a lot more sloppy play (which is to be expected).
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1977
On August 16 2012 21:40 sc2holar wrote:
Not when they play frucking terrible.

Just imagine if u were a B-teamer or no teamer on Kespa BW team and switched to SC II and started dominating when all the A-Teamers who beat you come to SC II and face you -> you would sweat hard and shake that history will repeat and you will get beaten again... sad but it's the reality when strongest is stronger in everything.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1978
On August 16 2012 21:42 FakeDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 21:40 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:36 setzer wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:35 Wintex wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:33 Fubi wrote:
On August 16 2012 21:32 TeeTS wrote:
GSL players seem to have lost their game understanding. Maybe their are just too pressured by the situation, but the awful decisionmaking is the only reason for Kespa's players success. really frustrating to watch those games :o

Or maybe the Kespa players just played... better? I mean they are the better players afterall


Stop viewing this with your rose-tinted glasses. In no way do you see them get supply blocked, stop for 15 seconds to make a decision etcetera etcetera in this magnitude. This is beyond bad GSL play. I'm not impressed by the KeSPA players until they start winning versus people that are in the winners bracket now. Cause this is fucking embarassing.


Beating Genius, DRG, Gumiho is not impressive at all to you?

Not when they play frucking terrible.


But Kespa players win 10 Bo3s against GOM players?

Kespa players are making the GOM players look bad by playing better.

You got no idea how fast Kespa player can level up through their strict 12 hours training regimen.

yep remember the old interviews from old boy, 30 games a day is like b-teamer standard everyone plays a ton of games no slacking at all
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1979
On August 16 2012 21:42 GolemMadness wrote:
I love how every Kespa victory is solely because GOM players have bad nerves/just happen to be playing terribly in that particular match. Keep telling yourself that.


Let's make a bet. If Squirtle loses to RorO and HE IS CHOKING, I'll voluntarily accept a ban for the rest of the month from TL.
The Bomber boy
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
August 16 2012 12:43 GMT
#1980
Wow, KesPA 4/4. They coming. They coming hard.
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