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Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
August 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#361
jesus gumiho has good micro
Maruprime.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:15:39
August 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#362
Wow that gumiho micro. Good job though, killed every last zergling.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 16 2012 10:14 GMT
#363
Decent...EffOrt in blocking the bunker and marines
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 16 2012 10:15 GMT
#364
shit so many marines atm 0_0
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 16 2012 10:15 GMT
#365
Quick third base for Effort.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
August 16 2012 10:15 GMT
#366
On August 16 2012 19:13 HolyArrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:09 silent_owl wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:06 HolyArrow wrote:
None of these Kespa wins honestly surprise me much.

Aside from DRG who's been identified as slumping for a while, we've seen players like Horror, Yugioh, Tails, and sC fall, all of whom are Code A or Code B at best. Combine that with the fact that Kespa players are simply have more experience as progamers (i.e booth experience) and how they have the psychological advantage mentioned by Soulkey and Jaedong, and you have a pretty fertile field for Kespa victories.


Well, it's Gumi now. Gumiho is a different deal than these Code A and B players.

And, well, I think the same way but it's basically validation that these Kespa players have the potential to be amazing in a quick amount of time.


It's obvious that they're already amazing. I mean, as Creator mentioned in an interview, they've been playing SC2 for longer than people realize, and all of them are Masters/GM on the Korean ladder.


They have tried SC2 before but if you think they have actually practised it properly for longer then, well, I think you're mistaken. Rather than believing all of them are lying I think Creator is just mistaken. Seems to be the more rational explanation to me. After all, many said they tried it for a week or two around a year ago or so, but that's all.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
August 16 2012 10:15 GMT
#367
Effort will get a sizeable eco advantage. Gumiho should have gone for the jugular instaead of running around trying to pick off the overlord.
X3GoldDot
Profile Joined August 2011
Malaysia3840 Posts
August 16 2012 10:16 GMT
#368
On August 16 2012 19:13 Squeegy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:12 Holgerius wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:06 HolyArrow wrote:
None of these Kespa wins honestly surprise me much.

Aside from DRG who's been identified as slumping for a while, we've seen players like Horror, Yugioh, Tails, and sC fall, all of whom are Code A or Code B at best. Combine that with the fact that Kespa players are simply have more experience as progamers (i.e booth experience) and how they have the psychological advantage mentioned by Soulkey and Jaedong, and you have a pretty fertile field for Kespa victories.

DRG, Leenock, Coca, Symbol... yeah, the excuse that all GSL players who lost to Kespa players were bad doesn't hold up, does it?


Nestea lost also and so did Jjakji. But they're slumping too of course and played bad and didn't care.


they are slumping atm..... nestea has not been looking strong aside from getting to ro8 to get 3-0ed out, and jjakji has never been impressive since his win, i guess nestea is remaining the same and not slumping, but jjakji is just never impressive nowadays
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shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#369
On August 16 2012 19:11 ceaRshaf wrote:
Kespa needs Jaedong to be a hero and put a lot of effort to win over the GOM players.


The GOMmyHoes will need a Genius to beat the KeSPA players, otherwise they will put their Tails between their legs and won't be Happy.
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#370
I think a lot of people overestimate the skills of code a/b gsl players, they are really not that good in the grand scheme of things. kespa players can easily be better than them already.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#371
On August 16 2012 19:16 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:13 Squeegy wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:12 Holgerius wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:06 HolyArrow wrote:
None of these Kespa wins honestly surprise me much.

Aside from DRG who's been identified as slumping for a while, we've seen players like Horror, Yugioh, Tails, and sC fall, all of whom are Code A or Code B at best. Combine that with the fact that Kespa players are simply have more experience as progamers (i.e booth experience) and how they have the psychological advantage mentioned by Soulkey and Jaedong, and you have a pretty fertile field for Kespa victories.

DRG, Leenock, Coca, Symbol... yeah, the excuse that all GSL players who lost to Kespa players were bad doesn't hold up, does it?


Nestea lost also and so did Jjakji. But they're slumping too of course and played bad and didn't care.


they are slumping atm..... nestea has not been looking strong aside from getting to ro8 to get 3-0ed out, and jjakji has never been impressive since his win, i guess nestea is remaining the same and not slumping, but jjakji is just never impressive nowadays


GOM players will actually start looking worse and worse. Only the top will hold.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#372
Thank god we are seeing a bit of a longer game a bit of an inefficient trade with the banes there by effort
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Porcelina
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3249 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#373
A little bit sloppy at the end by Gumi.
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#374
On August 16 2012 19:17 shineq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:11 ceaRshaf wrote:
Kespa needs Jaedong to be a hero and put a lot of effort to win over the GOM players.


The GOMmyHoes will need a Genius to beat the KeSPA players, otherwise they will put their Tails between their legs and won't be Happy.

LOL very well done *claps*
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#375
PSA: ignore Squeegy
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#376
On August 16 2012 19:16 X3GoldDot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:13 Squeegy wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:12 Holgerius wrote:
On August 16 2012 19:06 HolyArrow wrote:
None of these Kespa wins honestly surprise me much.

Aside from DRG who's been identified as slumping for a while, we've seen players like Horror, Yugioh, Tails, and sC fall, all of whom are Code A or Code B at best. Combine that with the fact that Kespa players are simply have more experience as progamers (i.e booth experience) and how they have the psychological advantage mentioned by Soulkey and Jaedong, and you have a pretty fertile field for Kespa victories.

DRG, Leenock, Coca, Symbol... yeah, the excuse that all GSL players who lost to Kespa players were bad doesn't hold up, does it?


Nestea lost also and so did Jjakji. But they're slumping too of course and played bad and didn't care.


they are slumping atm..... nestea has not been looking strong aside from getting to ro8 to get 3-0ed out, and jjakji has never been impressive since his win, i guess nestea is remaining the same and not slumping, but jjakji is just never impressive nowadays


Yeah, after all, top 8 in the hardest tournament SC2 has had is a sign of not looking very strong.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:20:50
August 16 2012 10:17 GMT
#377
On August 16 2012 19:12 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 19:06 HolyArrow wrote:
None of these Kespa wins honestly surprise me much.

Aside from DRG who's been identified as slumping for a while, we've seen players like Horror, Yugioh, Tails, and sC fall, all of whom are Code A or Code B at best. Combine that with the fact that Kespa players are simply have more experience as progamers (i.e booth experience) and how they have the psychological advantage mentioned by Soulkey and Jaedong, and you have a pretty fertile field for Kespa victories.

DRG, Leenock, Coca, Symbol... yeah, the excuse that all GSL players who lost to Kespa players were bad doesn't hold up, does it?


I think you guys are downplaying the factor of mentality. It means so much in the booth, even all the Kespa players are acknowledging that in interviews, so I don't see why you guys are so snidely discounting what I'm trying to say when the very players that you support are acknowledging that as a key factor. There's a reason why players so frequently underperform in the booth compared to how they play in practice, why some players end up being complete beasts online while looking terrible in live play: It's all mentality. Kespa players both have the advantage of far more booth experience than most GSL players, and on top of that, as Soulkey mentioned, all the GSL players are playing "burdened" while the Kespa players are just playing calmly and relaxed.

On August 16 2012 19:17 Dodgin wrote:
I think a lot of people overestimate the skills of code a/b gsl players, they are really not that good in the grand scheme of things. kespa players can easily be better than them already.


The biggest thing holding back Code A/B players is nerves IMO. Just think about how many times we hear about someone being a "practice bonjwa", how many times a team claims that a player is incredibly scary in-house only to look pretty mediocre in the booth. The most recent example of this is Yoda: MVP claimed that he's the strongest player in the IM house right now (yes, stronger than him, Nestea, or Seed), yet he got stomped by Taeja in a very one-sided game.
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
August 16 2012 10:18 GMT
#378
Man, Gumi is a boss. COME ON, EFFORT!
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 16 2012 10:18 GMT
#379
Can anyone help me out, my stream seems to be not working.

"Cannot connect to the stream
Make sure you are connected to the internet...
Error Code: 0x00000007"
We talkin about PRACTICE
ionONE
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 10:19:29
August 16 2012 10:18 GMT
#380
effort scouting like a boss

close stream and open it again on gom.net
JANGBI never forget
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