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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25875 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1841
On August 16 2012 22:57 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 kju wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:51 kranten wrote:
Expected more people to bitch about the host calling Neastea/MVP the best players.


not at the moment, but it's undeniable in 2 years of sc2

noone can argue that they are the best from their race, looking at the history of the game. But atm i think MC is the "legendary player" who is in the best form.

I still view MC as the most influential player in Starcraft history. Maybe he's not the outright best, but he really defined how everyone played Protoss, and still continues to do so

yea i agree, protoss were doing random builds every which where. mc created the standard and an actual goal in the match ups.

He showed the power of sentry/gateway pushes
Popularised Stargate style PvZ which comes in and out of popularity as the standard play

Even recently he's shown the optimal way to play against Stephano roaches
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1842
On August 16 2012 22:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 kju wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:51 kranten wrote:
Expected more people to bitch about the host calling Neastea/MVP the best players.


not at the moment, but it's undeniable in 2 years of sc2

noone can argue that they are the best from their race, looking at the history of the game. But atm i think MC is the "legendary player" who is in the best form.

I still view MC as the most influential player in Starcraft history, maybe not the outright best, but he really defined how everyone played Protoss, and still continues to do so


MC is a boss, but I am not sure it is true that he defines Protoss play. I always consider MC as someone who plays quite distinctively as a Protoss. He is a very aggressive player who excels at 2 base all-ins. Obviously he can macro too, but I do feel he is a lot more ruthless and aggressive compared to other Protoss players.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1843
Go Nestea, beat MVP.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1844
On August 16 2012 22:53 revel8 wrote:
How did SortOf play today? I think he is continuing to make a name for himself as a very strong EU Zerg.


brood/infestor
Terran & Potato Salad.
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1845
On August 16 2012 22:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 kju wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:51 kranten wrote:
Expected more people to bitch about the host calling Neastea/MVP the best players.


not at the moment, but it's undeniable in 2 years of sc2

noone can argue that they are the best from their race, looking at the history of the game. But atm i think MC is the "legendary player" who is in the best form.

I still view MC as the most influential player in Starcraft history. Maybe he's not the outright best, but he really defined how everyone played Protoss, and still continues to do so

he is also the top earning player, and is the only top player who has really made an impact with his personality. MVP and Nestea remeains very anonymous.
you no take candle
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 16 2012 13:58 GMT
#1846
On August 16 2012 22:57 ceaRshaf wrote:
Wow, look at that EG factor right there. Claiming 1st and 2nd......from the bottom.

Well as team mates of JYP he touches them more than other teams, maybe that's the EG curse JYP touches you causing you to lose.
Glorious SEA doto
Paperplane
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands1823 Posts
August 16 2012 13:59 GMT
#1847
Nestea vs MVP and MVP's going mech? Artosis must be jizzing his pants backstage
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 13:59 GMT
#1848
--- Nuked ---
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
August 16 2012 14:00 GMT
#1849
Day9s reads have been remarkably spot on today...
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#1850
On August 16 2012 22:58 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:55 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:54 sc2holar wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:52 kju wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:51 kranten wrote:
Expected more people to bitch about the host calling Neastea/MVP the best players.


not at the moment, but it's undeniable in 2 years of sc2

noone can argue that they are the best from their race, looking at the history of the game. But atm i think MC is the "legendary player" who is in the best form.

I still view MC as the most influential player in Starcraft history. Maybe he's not the outright best, but he really defined how everyone played Protoss, and still continues to do so

he is also the top earning player, and is the only top player who has really made an impact with his personality. MVP and Nestea remeains very anonymous.

While we're talking about influential protosses brown does not get enough credit, he created modern PvZ with things like aiming for fast 3rd bases, the strength of archon toilets against brood lord infestor and late game carrier approaches came heavily from his match against losira on daybreak.
Glorious SEA doto
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 14:01:55
August 16 2012 14:01 GMT
#1851
--- Nuked ---
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
August 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#1852
On August 16 2012 22:59 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 22:58 Fusilero wrote:
On August 16 2012 22:57 ceaRshaf wrote:
Wow, look at that EG factor right there. Claiming 1st and 2nd......from the bottom.

Well as team mates of JYP he touches them more than other teams, maybe that's the EG curse JYP touches you causing you to lose.

What if one touches JYP instead?


You will suddenly become completely braindead in the first 10 minutes of PvT, forever.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
August 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#1853
What a great battle to not watch that was.
xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#1854
lmao "perfect scan" when the entire zerg army is in a sensor tower...
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 16 2012 14:02 GMT
#1855
Except for all of the fucking SCVs day9 >.>
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
August 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#1856
What the fuck did i just see ?

right, nothing
Terran & Potato Salad.
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
August 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#1857
MVP is pretty good...
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24589 Posts
August 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#1858
Oww...
Farone
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
August 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#1859
nerchio today vs Koreans 3:0 and vs Europeans 0:2. wtf :D
MC, Stephano, Ret, Jjakji, Grubby, Life, HerO, Scarlett, TaeJa
SinTio
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany871 Posts
August 16 2012 14:03 GMT
#1860
On August 16 2012 23:02 xrapture wrote:
lmao "perfect scan" when the entire zerg army is in a sensor tower...


Well it was perfect, not difficult to place at all, but still perfect ^^
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