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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#2881
--- Nuked ---
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#2882
Mvp didn't fall for the same trick twice.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#2883
On August 17 2012 01:46 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:45 aintz wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 aintz wrote:
what the crap, what stream is mvp vs violet on...

The French stream


thx. man mvp up like 30supply he mustve roasted alot of drones

Erm no, he was never up supply sorry...


what game are you watching?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#2884
On August 17 2012 01:46 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:45 Shiori wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:44 Topdoller wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.



Add mass infestor, mass stalker, mass broodlord. Its a fundamental failing of SC2 I am afraid

To be fair, mass Stalker isn't something you can really "go." It's usually a composition you remax on after winning a fight, unless you're 7gating or something.

Doesn't Creator have a 3-bases mass blink Stalkers build?


Not sure about Creator but Seed has one.

3 base 14:30 +3 blink stalker max
SilentSC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United States505 Posts
August 16 2012 16:46 GMT
#2885
Yay Mvp! :D
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2886
mvp has a pretty anti roach army :/
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2887
Damn MVP is good against countering roach all ins. This game against Violet and even yesterday again Targa.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
wozzot
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1227 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 16:47:17
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2888
I tune into the French stream and Violet is getting completely murdered by Mvp. What the hell happened?
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aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2889
On August 17 2012 01:46 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:46 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:45 Shiori wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:44 Topdoller wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.



Add mass infestor, mass stalker, mass broodlord. Its a fundamental failing of SC2 I am afraid

To be fair, mass Stalker isn't something you can really "go." It's usually a composition you remax on after winning a fight, unless you're 7gating or something.

Doesn't Creator have a 3-bases mass blink Stalkers build?

With Immortals and Sentries? Yeah.


and no, it's like a 1 gate triple nexus -> + 3 attack max out on like pure blink stalkers
can i get my estro logo back pls
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2890
On August 17 2012 01:46 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:46 Whatson wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:45 aintz wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 aintz wrote:
what the crap, what stream is mvp vs violet on...

The French stream


thx. man mvp up like 30supply he mustve roasted alot of drones

Erm no, he was never up supply sorry...


what game are you watching?

Look at the edit lol
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2891
On August 17 2012 01:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:44 Ryps wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.

Shouldn't be, agreed. Also Freaky masses pretty much only infestors so you should add that to your list of viable strategies

I know right, all terran do is mass marine marauders , and zerg ling / roach. Protoss is the only true race that requires skill.. meh

When did I mention skill being part of it? Mutalisk play is tough enough to pull off, I just don't think any race should be able to make just one unit for close to the entirety of the mid/lategame. It's ridiculous

He wouldn't "be able to" if the opponent built the counter units...
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2892
On August 17 2012 01:47 aRyuujin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:46 Shiori wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:46 TheDwf wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:45 Shiori wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:44 Topdoller wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.



Add mass infestor, mass stalker, mass broodlord. Its a fundamental failing of SC2 I am afraid

To be fair, mass Stalker isn't something you can really "go." It's usually a composition you remax on after winning a fight, unless you're 7gating or something.

Doesn't Creator have a 3-bases mass blink Stalkers build?

With Immortals and Sentries? Yeah.


and no, it's like a 1 gate triple nexus -> + 3 attack max out on like pure blink stalkers

Against Zerg, that's incredibly risky.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2893
wow mvp, what a comeback.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2894
gg!
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
Zane
Profile Joined January 2011
Romania3916 Posts
August 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#2895
On August 17 2012 01:47 wozzot wrote:
I tune into the French stream and Violet is getting completely murdered by Mvp. What the hell happened?

Roach pressure into 2base muta into a bunch of hellions walking in Violet's base.
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
August 16 2012 16:48 GMT
#2896
lol so many workers died
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 16 2012 16:48 GMT
#2897
On August 17 2012 01:47 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:45 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:44 Ryps wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:43 Wombat_NI wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.

Shouldn't be, agreed. Also Freaky masses pretty much only infestors so you should add that to your list of viable strategies

I know right, all terran do is mass marine marauders , and zerg ling / roach. Protoss is the only true race that requires skill.. meh

When did I mention skill being part of it? Mutalisk play is tough enough to pull off, I just don't think any race should be able to make just one unit for close to the entirety of the mid/lategame. It's ridiculous

He wouldn't "be able to" if the opponent built the counter units...

On Daybreak, defending Mutas is difficult even if you have Archons and Blink, lol. You're still really confined to your base.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
August 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#2898
On August 17 2012 01:46 Asha` wrote:
Lord MVP has survived your sneaky aggression and will now rain down upon you with great vengeance and furious anger.

As he should =)
Spaiku
Profile Joined July 2012
Spain1114 Posts
August 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#2899
MvP takes game 2 against Violet.

He's really making mech TvZ work
Topdoller
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3860 Posts
August 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#2900
On August 17 2012 01:46 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:45 Shiori wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:44 Topdoller wrote:
On August 17 2012 01:42 Chicodog wrote:
It annoys me quite a bit that these boring strategies are still viable in the ZvP matchup. Mass mutalisk, mass roach and mass lings. It shouldnt be viable to just mass one unit.



Add mass infestor, mass stalker, mass broodlord. Its a fundamental failing of SC2 I am afraid

To be fair, mass Stalker isn't something you can really "go." It's usually a composition you remax on after winning a fight, unless you're 7gating or something.

Also this, pure stalker is terrible when fungals come out, you only really see it in the situations Shiori outlined.



Yeah mass Infestor kills mass stalker fast
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