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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
August 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#2621
On August 05 2012 02:06 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:04 Picklebread wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:02 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:59 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
MC played like a mid - master Protoss strategy wise in the whole bo7. I really don't understand the decisions he made there. Ofcourse he's not a bad player and his mechanics still were very good, but from his builds and strategy he didn't look like a champion at all.


Mid-master? That's laughable, but can't say I'm surprised as that is pretty expected from you


Ofcourse, could you please take a look into his decisions regarding strategy? Last game he scouts a very early starport and he can assume its a stim-timing after a gas-fe and also scouts double-reactors. He then decides to go very greedy for double forge which means he'll have no DPS at all against the bio force. Taeja could have won the match right when TLO called out that heromarine scouting everything. No way he would have defended the bio force.

As I said MC's mechanics were good as always even though on Metropolis he was playing kind of sloppy, yet the decisions through the series wasn't better than from a masters player. If you hate on me for pointing that out, I will just leave you as a MC fanboy. I like that boss as well, but this certainly was very argueable.

If you think that was "mid-masters" strategy wise, I don't know what to tell you. He certainly made a lot of strategic mistakes, but that laughable exaggeration just discredits any point you may actually have. I'm not a MC "fanboy" at all by the way and you will find it difficult to find anything supporting that assertion.

Naruto had a point. I mean, if you scout fast medivacs and know he has a fast stim from his opener and you see dual reactor which = alot of marines then you want AoE, but mc got double forge and immortals and a 3rd nexus which is just ridiculous.

Naruto also thinks that European Protosses are strategic geniuses whereas Koreans are a bunch of one-dimensional idiots. Seriously, he talks about this practically every time there is an LR thread.

Oh, come on... Anyway, our point about not going Colossi allowing the Medivac count to snowball out of control was clearly proven in this series, no?


No it wasn't.

MC is a seasoned veteran, he isn't going to get nervous or psyched out by literally anyone, which means he made all the decisions he made consciously. And his insight is considerably deeper than yours.
InMotion
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada110 Posts
August 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#2622
Useless questions. "blah blah did you expect to win, blah blah did you expect it to be easy"

I hate these useless interviews.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2623
On August 05 2012 02:07 Shiori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 02:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:04 Picklebread wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:02 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:59 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
MC played like a mid - master Protoss strategy wise in the whole bo7. I really don't understand the decisions he made there. Ofcourse he's not a bad player and his mechanics still were very good, but from his builds and strategy he didn't look like a champion at all.


Mid-master? That's laughable, but can't say I'm surprised as that is pretty expected from you


Ofcourse, could you please take a look into his decisions regarding strategy? Last game he scouts a very early starport and he can assume its a stim-timing after a gas-fe and also scouts double-reactors. He then decides to go very greedy for double forge which means he'll have no DPS at all against the bio force. Taeja could have won the match right when TLO called out that heromarine scouting everything. No way he would have defended the bio force.

As I said MC's mechanics were good as always even though on Metropolis he was playing kind of sloppy, yet the decisions through the series wasn't better than from a masters player. If you hate on me for pointing that out, I will just leave you as a MC fanboy. I like that boss as well, but this certainly was very argueable.

If you think that was "mid-masters" strategy wise, I don't know what to tell you. He certainly made a lot of strategic mistakes, but that laughable exaggeration just discredits any point you may actually have. I'm not a MC "fanboy" at all by the way and you will find it difficult to find anything supporting that assertion.

Naruto had a point. I mean, if you scout fast medivacs and know he has a fast stim from his opener and you see dual reactor which = alot of marines then you want AoE, but mc got double forge and immortals and a 3rd nexus which is just ridiculous.

Naruto also thinks that European Protosses are strategic geniuses whereas Koreans are a bunch of one-dimensional idiots. Seriously, he talks about this practically every time there is an LR thread.


No I don't. I said lots of Koreans did prefer the gateway-styles earlier in Starcraft 2. I never said they are one-dimensional idiots that can only play one strategy. Please don't call out things I've never said.

You spent several pages constantly lamenting the inferiority of "Korean Protoss" style as opposed to Euro style.


... if you want to discuss with me, PM me. Don't state things I've not, but for you, every strategy ever invited was also created by Koreans right ?
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
ramask2
Profile Joined June 2011
Thailand1024 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2624
Well, bye everybody. Time to check out the NASL KoTH.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2625
TAEJA IS INSANE!

GEEEEEEE GEEEEEEE!
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2626
On August 05 2012 00:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 00:27 ELA wrote:
Well, MorroW certainly is confident in TaeJa

[image loading]

Gogo, prediction time!

4-2 TaeJa


4-1 losing either to a 4g or blink obs,
i've faith :D


Nice call sAslmre ^^
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2627
Taeja saying terran isn't that bad... hmm... :D
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
pyro19
Profile Joined August 2010
6575 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2628
lol Taeja fawning all over his trophy
Thy Shall Die Alone...or emm..something like that.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2629
Terran is very different race for the 99.999% that does not have TaeJa level micro.

Guess Battle Hellions and Warhounds will even out the micro requirements.
Ammanas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Slovakia2166 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2630
MC was trying to play like Parting. MC doesnt know how to play like Parting. That's basically the finals in a short...
JangBi forever <3 || Classic! herO! Rain! Zest! | Rogue! Hydra! Solar! | Fantasy! Cure! Reality! Sorry! Journey!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2631
On August 05 2012 02:09 Type|NarutO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 02:07 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:06 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:04 Picklebread wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:02 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:59 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
MC played like a mid - master Protoss strategy wise in the whole bo7. I really don't understand the decisions he made there. Ofcourse he's not a bad player and his mechanics still were very good, but from his builds and strategy he didn't look like a champion at all.


Mid-master? That's laughable, but can't say I'm surprised as that is pretty expected from you


Ofcourse, could you please take a look into his decisions regarding strategy? Last game he scouts a very early starport and he can assume its a stim-timing after a gas-fe and also scouts double-reactors. He then decides to go very greedy for double forge which means he'll have no DPS at all against the bio force. Taeja could have won the match right when TLO called out that heromarine scouting everything. No way he would have defended the bio force.

As I said MC's mechanics were good as always even though on Metropolis he was playing kind of sloppy, yet the decisions through the series wasn't better than from a masters player. If you hate on me for pointing that out, I will just leave you as a MC fanboy. I like that boss as well, but this certainly was very argueable.

If you think that was "mid-masters" strategy wise, I don't know what to tell you. He certainly made a lot of strategic mistakes, but that laughable exaggeration just discredits any point you may actually have. I'm not a MC "fanboy" at all by the way and you will find it difficult to find anything supporting that assertion.

Naruto had a point. I mean, if you scout fast medivacs and know he has a fast stim from his opener and you see dual reactor which = alot of marines then you want AoE, but mc got double forge and immortals and a 3rd nexus which is just ridiculous.

Naruto also thinks that European Protosses are strategic geniuses whereas Koreans are a bunch of one-dimensional idiots. Seriously, he talks about this practically every time there is an LR thread.


No I don't. I said lots of Koreans did prefer the gateway-styles earlier in Starcraft 2. I never said they are one-dimensional idiots that can only play one strategy. Please don't call out things I've never said.

You spent several pages constantly lamenting the inferiority of "Korean Protoss" style as opposed to Euro style.


... if you want to discuss with me, PM me. Don't state things I've not, but for you, every strategy ever invited was also created by Koreans right ?


Not really. But 99% of solid Protoss play was either created or drastically improved (to the point of being a different build) by Koreans, notably MC, Creator, and Hero.
EnTaroAdun411
Profile Joined March 2010
Philippines106 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2632
Thank you Asus for a wonderful tournament.

Makes me glad I bought a G74SX.

Gratz to Taeja. Liquid fighting!
MigraineBoy#1957
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 04 2012 17:09 GMT
#2633
Amazing day of Starcraft, and TSL still left.

Nerd life is good.
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2634
Awww forgg and MC look so sad :/
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 17:10:15
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2635
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2636
On August 05 2012 02:08 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 02:06 TheDwf wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:05 Shiori wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:04 Picklebread wrote:
On August 05 2012 02:02 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:59 Type|NarutO wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:56 syllogism wrote:
On August 05 2012 01:55 Type|NarutO wrote:
MC played like a mid - master Protoss strategy wise in the whole bo7. I really don't understand the decisions he made there. Ofcourse he's not a bad player and his mechanics still were very good, but from his builds and strategy he didn't look like a champion at all.


Mid-master? That's laughable, but can't say I'm surprised as that is pretty expected from you


Ofcourse, could you please take a look into his decisions regarding strategy? Last game he scouts a very early starport and he can assume its a stim-timing after a gas-fe and also scouts double-reactors. He then decides to go very greedy for double forge which means he'll have no DPS at all against the bio force. Taeja could have won the match right when TLO called out that heromarine scouting everything. No way he would have defended the bio force.

As I said MC's mechanics were good as always even though on Metropolis he was playing kind of sloppy, yet the decisions through the series wasn't better than from a masters player. If you hate on me for pointing that out, I will just leave you as a MC fanboy. I like that boss as well, but this certainly was very argueable.

If you think that was "mid-masters" strategy wise, I don't know what to tell you. He certainly made a lot of strategic mistakes, but that laughable exaggeration just discredits any point you may actually have. I'm not a MC "fanboy" at all by the way and you will find it difficult to find anything supporting that assertion.

Naruto had a point. I mean, if you scout fast medivacs and know he has a fast stim from his opener and you see dual reactor which = alot of marines then you want AoE, but mc got double forge and immortals and a 3rd nexus which is just ridiculous.

Naruto also thinks that European Protosses are strategic geniuses whereas Koreans are a bunch of one-dimensional idiots. Seriously, he talks about this practically every time there is an LR thread.

Oh, come on... Anyway, our point about not going Colossi allowing the Medivac count to snowball out of control was clearly proven in this series, no?


No it wasn't.

MC is a seasoned veteran, he isn't going to get nervous or psyched out by literally anyone, which means he made all the decisions he made consciously. And his insight is considerably deeper than yours.


While I can't argue about his insight being deeper than mine, I can point out that he suffered a terrible defeat without looking remotely close to being a threat at all to Taeja, while others in this tournament have with a different kind of approach in PvT.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2637
On August 05 2012 02:07 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 05 2012 02:06 Rewera wrote:
WTF! I went for some beer for 19:00 finals, but there no finals anymore

But you have beers!

can't argue with that :D
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2638
wth, the first and second trophies look the same.. O_O
Eraserhead
Profile Joined October 2011
159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-04 17:10:33
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2639
On August 05 2012 02:09 MockHamill wrote:
Terran is very different race for the 99.999% that does not have TaeJa level micro.

Guess Battle Hellions and Warhounds will even out the micro requirements.


just what this game needed, less micro, blizzard so smart
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
August 04 2012 17:10 GMT
#2640
On August 05 2012 02:08 NrGmonk wrote:
Those baby giant checks made me google how much they save by going this route over the normal giant check route.
http://www.bigcheckstore.com/


Who cares about the size of the check, as long as the prize money is enough.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
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