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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 17:30 GMT
#2621
THE TERRAN ZERG TECH SWITCH:


Suicide Vikings to kill broodlords -> build ground army
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 17:34:33
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2622
On August 03 2012 02:21 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:20 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:11 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:07 MangoMountain wrote:
Terrans, explain to me the logic behind the marauder hellion. Why would you mass 2 units that aren't even good against queens to counter the metagame of massive amounts of queens

it's not that hard to understand....
hellions kill lings
marauders kill roaches

queens don't kill anything so T wins if Z is unprepared

Queen has same DPS as roach and effectively like twice the hp vs Marauders, mass Queens are very strong vs them

yeah mass but not 4 or 6

6 should be enough, actually. The transfure spam is so strong that you will need maybe a spine and a few roaches but it's a simple defense.


6 queen build means you start your 5th&6th queens at 5min40sec and they finish at 6min30sec.
Stim finishes at 8min25sec for marauder hellion all-in.
Ling speed takes 110sec to research.
Therefore, 6queen build requires relatively fast gas to stop this push. Dilemma is that with 6 queen builds, your whole purpose is to delay gas as long as possible.
That's why marauder hellion is very strong.
ForGG's build was so optimal that I think his stim finished around 8min22sec or so.
Heavenlee
Profile Joined April 2012
United States966 Posts
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2623
I don't know if I like mass orbitals on this map at this point...he's just going to mine out really fast.
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2624
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:21 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:
haha forgg with the double cc after cloack shee :d

Yeah, he does the same thing in ladder...


i should watch him ladder a bit. Some of his builds are like really good at lower levels if you've a decent control.

On August 03 2012 02:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does ForGG know more than two builds in TvZ? Or does he not respect JonnyREcco at all?


this build is awesome cause Jonny will not go spire.


And it is working out soooooooo well, isn't it?


ok you're blind. double CC after cloack shee first time in this serie.


There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2625
ForGG getting Neosteel Frames
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2626
need to suicide 20+ scvs here
Zest fanboy.
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
August 02 2012 17:31 GMT
#2627
lol forGG has like 20 Orbitals now. Ridiculous =))
Unlimited Warcraft Works and Super Starcraft Taisen ^^
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
August 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#2628
Wolf and Khaldor just made me wish we were watching Bomber so we could see the endless supply of manner mules in action.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#2629
On August 03 2012 02:30 Lennient wrote:
so after 2 years of doing all-in, people are afraid of MC.


After 2 years, he still catches people off guard. The man knows how to win games, which is all that really matters in the end.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#2630
On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:21 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:
haha forgg with the double cc after cloack shee :d

Yeah, he does the same thing in ladder...


i should watch him ladder a bit. Some of his builds are like really good at lower levels if you've a decent control.

On August 03 2012 02:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does ForGG know more than two builds in TvZ? Or does he not respect JonnyREcco at all?


this build is awesome cause Jonny will not go spire.


And it is working out soooooooo well, isn't it?


ok you're blind. double CC after cloack shee first time in this serie.


There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.


better than pretending than one of the best rts players is dumb.
Zest fanboy.
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 02 2012 17:32 GMT
#2631
I don't think ForGG is that much ahead, he will mine out soon with that many orbitals.
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 02 2012 17:33 GMT
#2632
Well Suppy probably should GG out of this.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3390 Posts
August 02 2012 17:33 GMT
#2633
According to Liquipedia Satiini 3-2 Mana.
I doubt Mana is leaving the group if he can't even handle Satiini.
Maybe Korean stay will help him but given history of other foreigners I doubt it.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 17:33 GMT
#2634
On August 03 2012 02:31 Orek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:21 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:20 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:14 Shikyo wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:11 sVnteen wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:07 MangoMountain wrote:
Terrans, explain to me the logic behind the marauder hellion. Why would you mass 2 units that aren't even good against queens to counter the metagame of massive amounts of queens

it's not that hard to understand....
hellions kill lings
marauders kill roaches

queens don't kill anything so T wins if Z is unprepared

Queen has same DPS as roach and effectively like twice the hp vs Marauders, mass Queens are very strong vs them

yeah mass but not 4 or 6

6 should be enough, actually. The transfure spam is so strong that you will need maybe a spine and a few roaches but it's a simple defense.


6 queen build means you start your 5th&6th queens at 5min40sec and they finish at 6min30sec.
Stim finishes at 8min25sec for marauder hellion all-in.
Ling speed takes 110sec to research.
Therefore, 6queen build requires relatively fast gas to stop this push. Dilamma is that with 6 queen builds, your whole purpose is to delay gas as long as possible.
That's why marauder hellion is very strong.
ForGG's build was so optimal that I think his stim finished around 8min22sec or so.

Don't really need lingspeed vs marauder-hellion, you rely on queens and roaches and transfuse(if you scout it coming ofc)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
August 02 2012 17:34 GMT
#2635
infestors are a good unit toi have
Zest fanboy.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
August 02 2012 17:34 GMT
#2636
ForGG smacked down JRecco in the end.
Chantastic
Profile Joined June 2012
86 Posts
August 02 2012 17:34 GMT
#2637
13 Marauders, 3 siege tanks, 6 vikings at once.


The hellllllll
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5357 Posts
August 02 2012 17:34 GMT
#2638
On August 03 2012 02:32 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2012 02:31 Whatson wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:28 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:27 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:25 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:23 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:21 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 TheDwf wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 sAsImre wrote:
haha forgg with the double cc after cloack shee :d

Yeah, he does the same thing in ladder...


i should watch him ladder a bit. Some of his builds are like really good at lower levels if you've a decent control.

On August 03 2012 02:21 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:19 sAsImre wrote:
On August 03 2012 02:18 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Does ForGG know more than two builds in TvZ? Or does he not respect JonnyREcco at all?


this build is awesome cause Jonny will not go spire.


And it is working out soooooooo well, isn't it?


ok you're blind. double CC after cloack shee first time in this serie.


There is no point in going cloaked banshee against this opening. You can get faster upgrades, more infantry and a faster third.


you don't know the purpose of mind games that's all.
He showed the eact same stuff as when he allined except this time with a fucking greedy opening.
And REcco made unit without attacking against a mother fucking greedy build.


And if ForGG was really smart he wouldn't be banking on a simple mindgame because he would've already won this series.


CosmicSpiral officially knows better than forGG what forGG should do. I'm so impressed and jealous of such a smart guy.

That's such a flimsy argument to make.


better than pretending than one of the best rts players is dumb.

Because the best rts players can't make stupid mistakes sometimes. Okay.
¯\_(シ)_/¯
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
August 02 2012 17:34 GMT
#2639
Btw ForGG plays macrogames so nicely that I kind of dislike the fact that he cheeses too much and makes people think of him as a cheesy player... Then again I guess that it helps with unpredictability in tournaments.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
August 02 2012 17:35 GMT
#2640
What's up JR ?
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