On July 24 2012 03:07 NOOBALOPSE wrote: IdrA is going to win vs MKP, then they will send creator, then EG will send DeMu, then Prime will send BboongBbong, then EG will send JYP, then Prime will send Maru, then Prime will send ByuN, then EG will send PuMa, and if PuMa fails they will send ThorZaIN - the king of preparation (:
On July 24 2012 03:07 NOOBALOPSE wrote: IdrA is going to win vs MKP, then they will send creator, then EG will send DeMu, then Prime will send BboongBbong, then EG will send JYP, then Prime will send Maru, then Prime will send ByuN, then EG will send PuMa, and if PuMa fails they will send ThorZaIN - the king of preparation (:
On July 24 2012 09:07 Noocta wrote: Protoss have like more than 20 gateway, it's over. Terran can't follow the flow of production against that.
The only possibility is Demuslim CRUSHING the fight.
On July 24 2012 09:06 Cramsy wrote: Yeah Demuslim waited too long. Totally over
On July 24 2012 09:03 Bagi wrote: Demuslim has waited too long, this is pretty much a gg.
Waiting for the excuses. How you all have such terrible collective memory of last fall beats me.
And Demuslim crushed the fight hard enough so that Creator wasn't able to hold to start rebuilding. I don't know why you're quoting my post.
If demuslim don't crush the fight hard ( like protoss losing 50 supply more overall atleast ) he's probably dead.
He was always going to crush the fight though. Creator had the worst unit composition of all time. He was never ahead because he maxed too soon on almost pure chargelots. Even without EMPs Demuslim would have won that fight.
On July 24 2012 09:10 fastr wrote: Can someone with more knowledge than I have confirm that Demuslim played Thorzain TvP style? remaxing on full ghost seems like the future of tvp
remaxing on full ghosts doesn't always work. It works wonder if protoss keep making zealots and archons, but as soon as he stop those production and go full stalkers, then you have a bunch of nearly dead weight ghosts.
Happy was the first terran to use a really ghost/viking heavy style to great effect vs Protoss with the sacrificing of SCV's to have a larger army. Im also pretty sure he beat creator using that style once in some sort of IPL game (Dunno if it was last season or in an IPL qualie or something)
On July 24 2012 03:07 NOOBALOPSE wrote: IdrA is going to win vs MKP, then they will send creator, then EG will send DeMu, then Prime will send BboongBbong, then EG will send JYP, then Prime will send Maru, then Prime will send ByuN, then EG will send PuMa, and if PuMa fails they will send ThorZaIN - the king of preparation (:
Why is there so much foreigner hate...? Can't we just watch the games. Not make hundreds of statements (which may or may not be true. But it doesn't matter?) and be more positive about what the eg guys are achieving so far?
On July 24 2012 09:07 Noocta wrote: Protoss have like more than 20 gateway, it's over. Terran can't follow the flow of production against that.
The only possibility is Demuslim CRUSHING the fight.
On July 24 2012 09:06 Cramsy wrote: Yeah Demuslim waited too long. Totally over
On July 24 2012 09:03 Bagi wrote: Demuslim has waited too long, this is pretty much a gg.
Waiting for the excuses. How you all have such terrible collective memory of last fall beats me.
And Demuslim crushed the fight hard enough so that Creator wasn't able to hold to start rebuilding. I don't know why you're quoting my post.
If demuslim don't crush the fight hard ( like protoss losing 50 supply more overall atleast ) he's probably dead.
He was always going to crush the fight though. Creator had the worst unit composition of all time. He was never ahead because he maxed too soon on almost pure chargelots. Even without EMPs Demuslim would have won that fight.
Yeah, his fourth was way too delayed for no reason. He was floating like 1000 minerals at one point with almost no gas.
On July 24 2012 09:15 Savern101 wrote: Atlantis Zergship - Oh well Demu, you did well vs Creator! Would like to point out that 2 months ago, Demu's TvP was godawful, he does well at fixing matchups, but I feel like he's never had all 3 strong at one time. His TvZ is suffering at the moment (as is most terrans) but if he could get all 3 together at once, he could definately make a push for best foreigner Terran.
Yup, he seems to pick basically one matchup to be good at at a time. Hopefully he can get all 3 up to par and start kicking some serious ass.
On July 24 2012 09:18 Talack wrote: Jesus MKP lost a Bo1 and now it's the end of the world haha
of course. now all the illogical statements (out of character, ill admit) by IdrA reaffirming his low opinion of mkp's skill, make sense to (~90% US SC2 fans). when they were never true.
because of this bo1.
im still glad idra seems in good shape. but doesn't mean his low opinion of mkp is justified. he shits on him for no reason, just like artosis did before mkp was demolishing everything.
In other words, idra has the "potential" to be one of the greatest on sc2. So, it shouldn't be a surprise if he beats a couple top koreans.
Ah yes, the good old days when Incontrol, Machine, and WhiteRa were also considered some of the best foreigners.
Incontrol, Machine? not even close lmao!
Incontrol won 2007 WCG USA, 3rd Pan-American WCG in 2008, and 2nd in 2009.
But when it came to koreans they got dominated. Idra was actually recruited by a pro team and was on par with them as far as skill goes. Check his TSL 2 rep pack.
He was a b-teamer who practiced 13 hours a day, never did anything, never had televised matches, and lost 5-2 to [F91].
he also tore apart the foreigner scene
Which again was primarily composed of excellent players such as Incontrol and Machine, with the rare Ret and Nony.
Being the best tennis player in your county is impressive even if you're not even close to the best player in the country
Not really. if you're the best tennis player in a country that consists of terrible tennis players... not exactly something to be proud of...
okay... "Being the best tennis player in your county is impressive even if you're not even close to the best player in the [United States of America]"
On July 24 2012 09:10 fastr wrote: Can someone with more knowledge than I have confirm that Demuslim played Thorzain TvP style? remaxing on full ghost seems like the future of tvp
remaxing on full ghosts doesn't always work. It works wonder if protoss keep making zealots and archons, but as soon as he stop those production and go full stalkers, then you have a bunch of nearly dead weight ghosts.
no. ghost does 6.7 dps to stalkers, and due to lack of aoe dmg you want huge and cheap firepower for terran like marine's 11 dps or marauder's 20 dps to armor + concussion.
ghosts are the best unit to have against zealots though, and can tank colossus shots decently. But if you can't mow through protoss forces fast enough you'll just die to the splash damage.
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