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MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
July 20 2012 14:11 GMT
#1321
On July 20 2012 23:09 Sakray wrote:
Haha DRG is so fucked right now :D

and why are you happy?
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
July 20 2012 14:11 GMT
#1322
On July 20 2012 23:08 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%


The 1% making it to the finals in both GSL and GSTL this season

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


Some people just don't want to see one dominant team, and while LG-IM's GSTL performance was extremely underwhelming for what they are capable of they are still one of the best teams out there. ( and are currently in the winners bracket finals of IPL TAC 3, going up against Slayers )

? finals in gsl is im.seed vs sk.mc what do you mean?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 14:16:21
July 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#1323
On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


It is not just about the competitiveness. IM coach already gets a lot of negative criticism for not play ALL his star player in team leagues. Imagine if MMA was also there. Basically the coach has to play MVP, Nestea, MMA, MC, Seed and we won't see the up and comers. Who knows if Seed would have develope as he did if coach only played MVP, Nestea, LosirA and Happy while Seed, Yonghwa, True, First, Yoda all had to fight for one spot.

Imagine if Flash, Fantasy, Jaedong, Bisu, Stork were all on the same Proleague team.

Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 14:17:13
July 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#1324
On July 20 2012 23:11 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:08 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%


The 1% making it to the finals in both GSL and GSTL this season

On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


Some people just don't want to see one dominant team, and while LG-IM's GSTL performance was extremely underwhelming for what they are capable of they are still one of the best teams out there. ( and are currently in the winners bracket finals of IPL TAC 3, going up against Slayers )

? finals in gsl is im.seed vs sk.mc what do you mean?


I mean just like the GSTL winner poll, Seed was voted by 1% of voters to win GSL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=548

On July 20 2012 23:13 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


It is not just about the competitiveness. IM coach already gets a lot of negative criticism for not play ALL his star player in team leagues. Imagine if MMA was also there. Basically the coach has to play MVP, Nestea, MMA, MC, Seed and we won't see the up and comers. Who knows if Seed would have develope as he did if coach only played MVP, Nestea, LosirA and Happy while Seed, Yonghwa, True, First, Yoda all had to fight for one spot.



This is a fair point, I was not really thinking about team league set up only about how MMA could practice with such a great team in a good environment while still getting salary. He wouldn't have to join a foreign team, which for most Korean players who joined foreign teams means a decline in skill. ( of course there are exceptions like MC. )
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
July 20 2012 14:14 GMT
#1325
Went to bed last night after Leenock beat Tails and......

FXO holy shit!!! LEENOCK
.Riot
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines242 Posts
July 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#1326
On July 20 2012 23:11 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:09 Sakray wrote:
Haha DRG is so fucked right now :D

and why are you happy?

Probably because he's a Leenock or an FXO fan?
ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
July 20 2012 14:18 GMT
#1327
Oh crap, DRG blew his two chances at a home championship
"more gg, more skill"
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
July 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#1328
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354418

Leenock's interview is up!

ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
July 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#1329
LEENOCK FUCK YEAH!!!
MentalGNT
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1264 Posts
July 20 2012 14:23 GMT
#1330
Didn't see the results before now... Poor DRG Had the opportunity to play 2 finals in his home town. Ends up with none.

Time to cheer him up with another "zerglings for DRG" =)
What a player
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
July 20 2012 14:26 GMT
#1331
I blame the MVP coach, this is what happens when u don't send out your zerg players and in the end your only zerg gets ZvZ sniped :p
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
July 20 2012 14:26 GMT
#1332
On July 20 2012 23:17 .Riot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:11 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:09 Sakray wrote:
Haha DRG is so fucked right now :D

and why are you happy?

Probably because he's a Leenock or an FXO fan?


Not at all, but he wanted to play GSL finals at his hometown, MC crushed it with a 3-0. He could have played GSTL final there too, and he lost again. It's bad for him, yeah, but I find it quite funny yep
MrKn4rz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2153 Posts
July 20 2012 14:29 GMT
#1333
On July 20 2012 23:22 SeeKeR wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354418

Leenock's interview is up!


Awesome! Greatly appreciated!
"We don't take kindly to folks who don't take kindly around here..."
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 20 2012 14:30 GMT
#1334
On July 20 2012 23:13 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:11 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:08 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%


The 1% making it to the finals in both GSL and GSTL this season

On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


Some people just don't want to see one dominant team, and while LG-IM's GSTL performance was extremely underwhelming for what they are capable of they are still one of the best teams out there. ( and are currently in the winners bracket finals of IPL TAC 3, going up against Slayers )

? finals in gsl is im.seed vs sk.mc what do you mean?


I mean just like the GSTL winner poll, Seed was voted by 1% of voters to win GSL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=548

Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:13 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


It is not just about the competitiveness. IM coach already gets a lot of negative criticism for not play ALL his star player in team leagues. Imagine if MMA was also there. Basically the coach has to play MVP, Nestea, MMA, MC, Seed and we won't see the up and comers. Who knows if Seed would have develope as he did if coach only played MVP, Nestea, LosirA and Happy while Seed, Yonghwa, True, First, Yoda all had to fight for one spot.



This is a fair point, I was not really thinking about team league set up only about how MMA could practice with such a great team in a good environment while still getting salary. He wouldn't have to join a foreign team, which for most Korean players who joined foreign teams means a decline in skill. ( of course there are exceptions like MC. )


I am not so sure. Hero is doing well and so is Taeja. It seems that players do practice outside their teams a lot (unlike BW) so getting practice partners shouldn't really be a problem. I think the bigger issue is just the travelling and crazy schedule (ie Hero, MC this past month). MC seems to handle it best but remember, he has been doing this (the travelling thing) for over a year while a lot of the other top pros just started.
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
July 20 2012 14:30 GMT
#1335
poor DRG, must been hard 2 days for him TT
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
July 20 2012 14:32 GMT
#1336
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%

Where exactly did you find this poll result?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
July 20 2012 14:34 GMT
#1337
On July 20 2012 23:30 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:13 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:11 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:08 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%


The 1% making it to the finals in both GSL and GSTL this season

On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


Some people just don't want to see one dominant team, and while LG-IM's GSTL performance was extremely underwhelming for what they are capable of they are still one of the best teams out there. ( and are currently in the winners bracket finals of IPL TAC 3, going up against Slayers )

? finals in gsl is im.seed vs sk.mc what do you mean?


I mean just like the GSTL winner poll, Seed was voted by 1% of voters to win GSL.

http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=548

On July 20 2012 23:13 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:05 Ragnarork wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:57 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:52 vthree wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:34 Dodgin wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:32 Gexs wrote:
On July 20 2012 22:30 hyperknight wrote:
wait WTF? fxo beat mvp? leenock beat drg?
OMFFGGGGGGG LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

this is what happens to every single player who hits the #1 spot in this game. get too confident and then get complacent which eventually leads to a "slump" period. mma, mvp and now drg.

i feel bad that drg wont be playing in either of the finals at his hometown. but such is life

Mvp came back and beat Squirtle, DRG WILL be back for another GSL champ, MMA seems like hes at the point of no return...


MMA will be back, he showed amazing games a few days ago in Code A 2-0ing Hero. He needs to find a new team though ( Hope he joins LG-IM )


Honestly, LG-IM is probably the last time I want him to join. They already have the deepest lineup along with MVP, Nestea, MC and Seed.


It would be great for him as a player because he would be getting a salary while still on a Korean team, living in a Korean training house having some of the best practice partners you could ask for. I get that some people wouldn't want him to join because " I don't want to see one team have all the champions " or something, though.


I'm quite confused by this. I could see this point, but LG-IM as a team did not rampaged team leagues though their combined GSL titles count is 7... I wonder if it's a matter of team leagues.

But if it's only a matter of "Not all the best in the same team", I don't understand what could be the problem...


It is not just about the competitiveness. IM coach already gets a lot of negative criticism for not play ALL his star player in team leagues. Imagine if MMA was also there. Basically the coach has to play MVP, Nestea, MMA, MC, Seed and we won't see the up and comers. Who knows if Seed would have develope as he did if coach only played MVP, Nestea, LosirA and Happy while Seed, Yonghwa, True, First, Yoda all had to fight for one spot.



This is a fair point, I was not really thinking about team league set up only about how MMA could practice with such a great team in a good environment while still getting salary. He wouldn't have to join a foreign team, which for most Korean players who joined foreign teams means a decline in skill. ( of course there are exceptions like MC. )


I am not so sure. Hero is doing well and so is Taeja. It seems that players do practice outside their teams a lot (unlike BW) so getting practice partners shouldn't really be a problem. I think the bigger issue is just the travelling and crazy schedule (ie Hero, MC this past month). MC seems to handle it best but remember, he has been doing this (the travelling thing) for over a year while a lot of the other top pros just started.


Like I said there are a few exceptions, but the majority of them who leave to join foreign teams decline in skill. While Taeja and Hero are doing well, Zenio is not.

As far as I know Taeja always practiced from home anyway so changing teams didn't change his practice routines much.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 14:40:01
July 20 2012 14:37 GMT
#1338
On July 20 2012 23:32 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
[image loading]

Relevant :p I am the 1%

Where exactly did you find this poll result?


http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=546

Edit: Just click "older polls" in the poll section on the TL front page
리노크 👑
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37071 Posts
July 20 2012 14:40 GMT
#1339
On July 20 2012 23:37 DrPandaPhD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 23:32 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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Relevant :p I am the 1%

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Huh.... I don't see a "Polls" section on my TL front page.

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On July 20 2012 23:40 SeeKeR wrote:
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On July 20 2012 23:37 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:32 SeeKeR wrote:
On July 20 2012 23:06 DrPandaPhD wrote:
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Relevant :p I am the 1%

Where exactly did you find this poll result?


http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=546

Edit: Just click "older polls" in the poll section on the TL front page

Huh.... I don't see a "Polls" section on my TL front page.

Where is yours?


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