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On July 19 2012 21:51 SeaSwift wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:49 oOOoOphidian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:45 SeaSwift wrote:On July 19 2012 21:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:42 SeaSwift wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:39 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top MC won the official group of death convincingly. so did mvp during his run mvp > mc mvp > polt both recently champions. mc won a pvp and against a derping mkp The main allegations against PvP are that it is a luck-based matchup. MC won that series with a 2gate robo hold against an UNSCOUTED 4gate, with the 2gate and Robo unpowered. Dismissing it as a PvP is retarded. robo builds hold 4gate unscouted with any amount of micro, unless they started with a pylon in your base Squirtle got a pylon in MC's base. I said start with pylon in base. As in, you have 2 warp-ins inside their base killing your production and probes already. OK, this is really something. You think that for a 4gate to work against a Robo build, there has to be an unscouted pylon INSIDE the main and 2 warp-ins, otherwise it's an auto-win for the Robo player? I said it doesn't matter any more, but this is hilarious.
It's sad that there are people out there who have never microd a game in their lives.
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Coda A Protoss sacrifices has accomplished their goal of pleasing the Code S gods....
PvP MU is the most micro intensive of all mirror matchups..(early ZvZ is even more micro intensive but more ZvZs go into mid-late games) and I love these micro battles..
I am predicting MC 4-2 or 4-1 since Seed doesnt have a player of MC caliber to practice against in LG-IM team.. MC is just MC.. he doesnt need a partner to practice...
People saying Stephano is the best zerg in the world are wrong.. He has the best ZvP in the world no doubt but overall he cant match players like DRG or Symbol.. He maybe in top 5. DRG is still #1 even after this loss because class is permenant, form is temporary.
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On July 19 2012 21:47 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:44 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:39 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top MC won the official group of death convincingly. so did mvp during his run mvp > mc mvp > polt both recently champions. mc won a pvp and against a derping mkp On July 19 2012 21:40 Havik_ wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top Those are better players, but an easier format. Ro16 and Ro32 were best of 1 back then. true, but bo1 also means that it's easier to get knocked out by just one mistake. the bo3 is less punishing i feel since you can drop one map but come back ...and then he roflstomps the -supposed to be- best player in the world with 3:0. Arguing seems a bit silly. drg derped hard today, most people agree there. against an in-form drg it might be different
I state MCs play as almost flawless. No need to count off any victories.
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Gratz to MC! Here is to hoping the finals will be game after game of nail-biting micro wars!
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I'm worried less people will show up at Haeundae than the semi finals. That would be terrible.
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On July 19 2012 21:46 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:44 shizzz wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 Ysellian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:40 Havik_ wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top Those are better players, but an easier format. Ro16 and Ro32 were best of 1 back then. Bo1 is not an easier format for the better player. However in the case of MVP specifically, he stated himself he much prefers the bo1 format, he obviously feels comfortable under the pressure and with his skill it'd definitely be scary to vs him in one. MVP said he prefers bo1 because it requires less stamina which is currently a serious issue for him with his massive exploding wrist issues >_< These weren't nearly as big a problem in the middle of last year...
Ah my bad, keep forgetting about his injury. Yeah that makes a bit more sense lol.. I tried finding where I read it to confirm but didn't have any luck.
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opterown
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On July 19 2012 21:54 Clefairy wrote:
I'm worried less people will show up at Haeundae than the semi finals. That would be terrible.
mc has too many fans for that haha
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On July 19 2012 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:48 ShampooSuicide wrote:On July 19 2012 21:47 Whatson wrote:On July 19 2012 21:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:42 SeaSwift wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:39 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:On July 19 2012 21:33 opterown wrote:
lose to ganzi
beat sniper
beat ganzi
beat mkp
beat squirtle
beat taeja
beat drg
started off pretty meh, escalted quickly, pretty good path
there have been harder roads for sure any idea of who? sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top MC won the official group of death convincingly. so did mvp during his run mvp > mc mvp > polt both recently champions. mc won a pvp and against a derping mkp The main allegations against PvP are that it is a luck-based matchup. MC won that series with a 2gate robo hold against an UNSCOUTED 4gate, with the 2gate and Robo unpowered. Dismissing it as a PvP is retarded. robo builds hold 4gate unscouted with any amount of micro, unless they started with a pylon in your base Somebody doesn't play Protoss... Yeah lol. Robo build only holds it if they never get vision up your ramp. Usually if they get 1 unit up to be able to warp in its gg. That hold was crazy. Just casually mentioning that HerO held not one, but two unscouted 4gates in one day while going two gate blink. With blink not even halfway done. So basically 2gate > 4gate. If you're HerO.
TSL Inori had the sickest PvP anti-4gate build before the patch. It was either against HerO or HuK on Tal'darim Altar (where if you don't 4gate you just flat out die) where he opened with this cool 3gate sentry with all chrono spent on gates and not warpgates. Eventually got out an immortal with ten more probes than his opponent after a few minutes of agression, and basically a-moved to victory.
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Well wow, did not expect a complete stomping of DRG by MC. Didn't watch the games myself but am I wrong to assume that DRG fucked up considerably in the 3 sets?
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On July 19 2012 21:43 Ragnarork wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:
PVP FINALS FOR JUSTICE! Seed is my HerO today! Yeah, no matter how much zergs complain about GomTvT era, Protosses deserves more a champion.
It is P their own fault that they didn't produce a champion in 2012.
Season 1 you had 4P in the Ro8 with Genius in the finals. We had 1 zerg in the Ro8 and he became champion. 
Season 2 you had 5P in the Ro8 and for some reason MVP took the title.
This season you got 2P in the finals so I guess it will work out this time.
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worst matchup for finals there is :/
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On July 19 2012 21:56 Whatson wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 19 2012 21:48 ShampooSuicide wrote:On July 19 2012 21:47 Whatson wrote:On July 19 2012 21:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:42 SeaSwift wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:39 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:35 NightOfTheDead wrote:
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Beat finalist, beat champion, and beat previous champion? How can there be a harder road? On July 19 2012 21:35 FataLe wrote:
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any idea of who?
sorry my history is weak. i know all the champs just can't remember any incredible runs aside from face rolls (NesTea, Squirtle) i think mvp had a harder one polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top MC won the official group of death convincingly. so did mvp during his run mvp > mc mvp > polt both recently champions. mc won a pvp and against a derping mkp The main allegations against PvP are that it is a luck-based matchup. MC won that series with a 2gate robo hold against an UNSCOUTED 4gate, with the 2gate and Robo unpowered. Dismissing it as a PvP is retarded. robo builds hold 4gate unscouted with any amount of micro, unless they started with a pylon in your base Somebody doesn't play Protoss... Yeah lol. Robo build only holds it if they never get vision up your ramp. Usually if they get 1 unit up to be able to warp in its gg. That hold was crazy. Just casually mentioning that HerO held not one, but two unscouted 4gates in one day while going two gate blink. With blink not even halfway done. So basically 2gate > 4gate. If you're HerO. TSL Inori had the sickest PvP anti-4gate build before the patch. It was either against HerO or HuK on Tal'darim Altar (where if you don't 4gate you just flat out die) where he opened with this cool 3gate sentry with all chrono spent on gates and not warpgates. Eventually got out an immortal with ten more probes than his opponent after a few minutes of agression, and basically a-moved to victory.
Who doesn't 4 gate in Taldarim ?
It was a 4 gate heaven LOL
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early 2011:
Tasteless and Artosis see two rising protoss stars on IM.
Artosis says... see this guy Yonghwa? He's super fucking good.
Tasteless says... yea... but this guy seed. He's fucking amazing x5
Fastforward to July 2012
Seed is playing in a GSL finals
Yonghwa is in Code B
by perfect infallible logic, Tasteless has actually known what he was talking about all this time and has not even gotten close to losing an iota of his passion. Tasteless #1
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On July 19 2012 21:56 bLecK wrote:
Well wow, did not expect a complete stomping of DRG by MC. Didn't watch the games myself but am I wrong to assume that DRG fucked up considerably in the 3 sets?
DRG played subpar compared to his usual play.
MC just played better.End of story.
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People must rage about balance because their favourite player did not make it to the finals!
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On July 19 2012 21:57 FakeDeath wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:56 Whatson wrote:On July 19 2012 21:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:On July 19 2012 21:48 ShampooSuicide wrote:On July 19 2012 21:47 Whatson wrote:On July 19 2012 21:45 oOOoOphidian wrote:On July 19 2012 21:42 SeaSwift wrote:On July 19 2012 21:41 opterown wrote:On July 19 2012 21:39 Ethi wrote:On July 19 2012 21:36 opterown wrote:
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i think mvp had a harder one
polt, mc, nestea, huk, july, top MC won the official group of death convincingly. so did mvp during his run mvp > mc mvp > polt both recently champions. mc won a pvp and against a derping mkp The main allegations against PvP are that it is a luck-based matchup. MC won that series with a 2gate robo hold against an UNSCOUTED 4gate, with the 2gate and Robo unpowered. Dismissing it as a PvP is retarded. robo builds hold 4gate unscouted with any amount of micro, unless they started with a pylon in your base Somebody doesn't play Protoss... Yeah lol. Robo build only holds it if they never get vision up your ramp. Usually if they get 1 unit up to be able to warp in its gg. That hold was crazy. Just casually mentioning that HerO held not one, but two unscouted 4gates in one day while going two gate blink. With blink not even halfway done. So basically 2gate > 4gate. If you're HerO. TSL Inori had the sickest PvP anti-4gate build before the patch. It was either against HerO or HuK on Tal'darim Altar (where if you don't 4gate you just flat out die) where he opened with this cool 3gate sentry with all chrono spent on gates and not warpgates. Eventually got out an immortal with ten more probes than his opponent after a few minutes of agression, and basically a-moved to victory. Who doesn't 4 gate in Taldarim ? It was a 4 gate heaven LOL
Apparently Inori doesn't lol
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On July 19 2012 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
early 2011:
Tasteless and Artosis see two rising protoss stars on IM.
Artosis says... see this guy Yonghwa? He's super fucking good.
Tasteless says... yea... but this guy seed. He's fucking amazing x5
Fastforward to July 2012
Seed is playing in a GSL finals
Yonghwa is in Code B
by perfect infallible logic, Tasteless has actually known what he was talking about all this time and has not even gotten close to losing an iota of his passion. Tasteless #1
This is pretty funny actually.
Yonghwa IS doing better than just " code b " though, second at HSC5. He just needs to get out of Code Yonghwa now.
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On July 19 2012 21:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
early 2011:
Tasteless and Artosis see two rising protoss stars on IM.
Artosis says... see this guy Yonghwa? He's super fucking good.
Tasteless says... yea... but this guy seed. He's fucking amazing x5
Fastforward to July 2012
Seed is playing in a GSL finals
Yonghwa is in Code B
by perfect infallible logic, Tasteless has actually known what he was talking about all this time and has not even gotten close to losing an iota of his passion. Tasteless #1
More like Artosis curses every single human being he has ever loved.
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DRG may have been out of shape, but these series looked one-sided.
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