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On July 16 2012 08:39 Mozzery wrote:
GGs by Scarlett, the Illusion comment MIGHT be referring to the fact that Scarlett was the lead, main "story" of IPL 4, when she beat 1 Code A Korean, 2 good foreigners, and took a game off of Oz, a Code S player. Illusion in the same tournament took out THREE Code S players at the same tournament, not games off of three, matches, and got a lot less hype.
Ohhhh, that makes more sense.
But in all fairness, I think Illusion has been invited to more tournies since then than Scarlett has. He performance did get noticed by people that matter.
Beside, the scene needs more role models of diverse backgrounds to grow the scene. Someone like Scarlett getting the right kind of attention -- A girl/transgender player that is ACTUALLY GOOD, versus a 'hot girl' that is fake 'nerd' -- is good for the community.
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I just realized scarlett is a girl indeed,wasnt that obvious for me (Alicia isnt female,but has a female Nickname too)
Jesus, this is astonishing 
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On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female.
Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/
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On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female.
Become Ok for who?
If he's transgendered I don't see why it would be wrong to classify him that way...>_>
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On July 16 2012 08:22 Defacer wrote:
Wow, Scarlett.
I really like her style ... very patient, and great 'technique'. It's like she does the little things to optimize an engagement.
This would be probably be IdrA's idea of a 'good' player. She might be better than IdrA.
Looking at her play, which looks very solid. Apart from a few supply block here and there, i'd say currently she just might be. Ostojiy is no joke.
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On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female.
It's always been okay.
It's been taboo to make an argument out of it.
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On July 16 2012 08:47 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female. Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/
Maybe it's just what I saw when I looked at the fanclub back then.
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On July 16 2012 08:50 garlicface wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 08:47 Defacer wrote:On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female. Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/ Maybe it's just what I saw when I looked at the fanclub back then.
I honestly don't know, because I don't exactly have transgender friends. Is it rude or uncouth to refer to her as a transgender girl?
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On July 16 2012 08:51 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 08:50 garlicface wrote:On July 16 2012 08:47 Defacer wrote:On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female. Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/ Maybe it's just what I saw when I looked at the fanclub back then. I honestly don't know, because I don't exactly have transgender friends. Is it rude or uncouth to refer to her as a transgender girl?
That is completely fine.
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On July 16 2012 08:51 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 08:50 garlicface wrote:On July 16 2012 08:47 Defacer wrote:On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female. Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/ Maybe it's just what I saw when I looked at the fanclub back then. I honestly don't know, because I don't exactly have transgender friends. Is it rude or uncouth to refer to her as a transgender girl?
She stated she preferes being refered to as she. Which is understandable. But there will always be people that won't. However she seems to be completely open about her being transgender.
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On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female.
I see where you are coming from, however, i think NOT calling her transgender just makes it even more awkward.
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On July 16 2012 08:51 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 08:50 garlicface wrote:On July 16 2012 08:47 Defacer wrote:On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female. Since when is it wrong to call her both? Nothing wrong with either :/ Maybe it's just what I saw when I looked at the fanclub back then. I honestly don't know, because I don't exactly have transgender friends. Is it rude or uncouth to refer to her as a transgender girl?
I do have transgender friends and I am active in the LGBT community. To me, she's a girl, as is any transgender person who happened to be born with the wrong chromosomes. No one really has any business asking and thinking about what's between her legs. She considers herself a woman, and I see no reason not to. I also see no reason to call attention to the fact that she's transgender, as if it was some kind of third gender. The only ones who have any business thinking about her biological sex are herself, medical professionals and any sexual partner.
Edit: If you have questions about gender identity and transgender, please PM me instead of derailing the thread. Some people are genuinely curious. I'm not the best person to ask since I'm not transgender myself, but I can point you in the right direction.
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On July 16 2012 08:45 garlicface wrote:
I'm asking an honest question here - when did it become okay to identify Scarlett as a transgender? When she first appeared in the scene at MLG it was considered taboo call her anything but 100% female.
Honestly I feel that the problem isn't people calling her transgender; it was those that refused to call her anything but 100% male.
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Pretty obnoxious how people want to discuss her gender instead of crediting her impressive run this tournament. Great run Scarlett, Canada's best!
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Sorry but the whole esport-scene nowadays is about background, characters and stories, and a girl winning canadian finals is just an interesting fact.There isnt a reason to not talk about this.
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On July 16 2012 09:20 Knight79 wrote:
Sorry but the whole esport-scene nowadays is about background, characters and stories, and a girl winning canadian finals is just an interesting fact.There isnt a reason to not talk about this.
And I mean, at the end of the day, a MtF transgender is pretty much as far outside of the gamer stereotype as you can get. I think its worth celebrating that someone that is so far from what is usually considered the hardcore gamer demographic is doing so well. That's not to take anything away from her play, or saying that people are rooting for her because she's a girl (or transgender), but I really believe that someone like Scarlett doing so well is good for the image of the community and we ought to be happy about that.
And beyond all that, I'm just happy to see a Canadian player looking so solid ^^
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I'm a bit disappointed I missed the loosers bracked broadcasts. Apparently even the consolation matches were streamed. I don't know how I missed it. I really hope there will be vods and replay packs available.
When I saw HUK go no scout builds pvp, and even no scout builds like 1gate stargate into 4gate stargate all-in without an obs... not even scouting the perimeters of his base I was really hoping to see tubby proxy, cannon rush or even nexus first - I know he knows it's the way to beat HUK the way he's playing pvp lately. I'm happy to hear he did it when he faced him again. It looks bad, but it's the way to play against HUK's style. You can't just let him get ahead and then win with a stupid all-in that just gambled on the hopes of not getting cheesed earlier.
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Im not in the transgender discussion,its just somewhat impressive and cute a girl just won this.
I was somewhat familiar with the nickname "Scarlett" from Canada before, but not with the whole background.
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