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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 08:43:28
July 08 2012 08:41 GMT
#4581
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.

PvP can never be a great matchup while warp gates and colossi exist.

TvZ is bad now, I agree, which leaves TvT as the last good matchup in the game.
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
July 08 2012 08:49 GMT
#4582
On July 08 2012 17:41 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.

PvP can never be a great matchup while warp gates and colossi exist.

TvZ is bad now, I agree, which leaves TvT as the last good matchup in the game.

TvT is good probably my second fav. But I hate the stalemate it sometimes falls into w/ siege lines. PvP is non stop action plus you dont always see colossi - again watch that game.
MC for president
Ounk
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany75 Posts
July 08 2012 08:58 GMT
#4583
Bling and his nipple piercing
[image loading]
FataLe
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand4516 Posts
July 08 2012 09:01 GMT
#4584
On July 08 2012 17:58 Ounk wrote:
Bling and his nipple piercing
[image loading]

does he even lift?
hi. big fan.
Ounk
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany75 Posts
July 08 2012 09:30 GMT
#4585
On July 08 2012 18:01 FataLe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 17:58 Ounk wrote:
Bling and his nipple piercing
[image loading]

does he even lift?

Yes, Bling lifted his shirt but the other guy (anybody knows who he is?) pulled it down again.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
July 08 2012 09:45 GMT
#4586
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.


How is PvZ any different from that? I could predict 9 out of 10 games with FFE for the Brotoss and fast 3rd @4-5 mins for the Zerg... First mentionable action happens past the 10 min mark most of the times.

Problem is the missing variety of maps... Maps are too huge and have an too easy accessible 3rd in most cases... They just favor these kind of macro games too much IMO.

Sure I love SC as well, but I'm just fed up with having to watch this much ZvP, ZvZ and PvP lately... Miss TvT which is the most exciting and diverse mirror MU to me :/ TvZ also got ruined which was so exciting to watch and I've never been a huge fan of TvP metagame
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 08 2012 09:58 GMT
#4587
On July 08 2012 18:30 Ounk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:01 FataLe wrote:
On July 08 2012 17:58 Ounk wrote:
Bling and his nipple piercing
[image loading]

does he even lift?

Yes, Bling lifted his shirt but the other guy (anybody knows who he is?) pulled it down again.


should be the guy doing this

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=350643
Rizell
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden237 Posts
July 08 2012 10:07 GMT
#4588
Have there been posted any links to the matches in the VOD*s anywhere? Timestamps etc?

Thanks in advance dear TL.
So poor, cant' even pay attention.
pepe08
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany566 Posts
July 08 2012 10:14 GMT
#4589
On July 08 2012 19:07 Rizell wrote:
Have there been posted any links to the matches in the VOD*s anywhere? Timestamps etc?

Thanks in advance dear TL.


ehm..ever taken a look into Liquipedia?
because I have a good day here the link, sroll down and see VODs link + Casters
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/HomeStory_Cup/5
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-08 10:38:08
July 08 2012 10:37 GMT
#4590
On July 08 2012 18:45 Creager wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.


How is PvZ any different from that? I could predict 9 out of 10 games with FFE for the Brotoss and fast 3rd @4-5 mins for the Zerg... First mentionable action happens past the 10 min mark most of the times.

Problem is the missing variety of maps... Maps are too huge and have an too easy accessible 3rd in most cases... They just favor these kind of macro games too much IMO.

Sure I love SC as well, but I'm just fed up with having to watch this much ZvP, ZvZ and PvP lately... Miss TvT which is the most exciting and diverse mirror MU to me :/ TvZ also got ruined which was so exciting to watch and I've never been a huge fan of TvP metagame

PvZ is very much differnt in that Protoss can actually force speed and roaches without being allin and has units that can survive queens so you see a lot of successful 2 base all ins and even 1 base pressue. They also can slow down zerg with pylon blocks and cannon threats. Have very good air options in phoenix/VR harrass as well as gain map control. Protoss that lose to a 12-14 min roach max do what you suggest and just turtle for 3 nexus. Protoss that do that are overwhelmed by larva mechanic just like terran is today.
MC for president
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
July 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#4591
On July 08 2012 19:37 tdt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 18:45 Creager wrote:
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.


How is PvZ any different from that? I could predict 9 out of 10 games with FFE for the Brotoss and fast 3rd @4-5 mins for the Zerg... First mentionable action happens past the 10 min mark most of the times.

Problem is the missing variety of maps... Maps are too huge and have an too easy accessible 3rd in most cases... They just favor these kind of macro games too much IMO.

Sure I love SC as well, but I'm just fed up with having to watch this much ZvP, ZvZ and PvP lately... Miss TvT which is the most exciting and diverse mirror MU to me :/ TvZ also got ruined which was so exciting to watch and I've never been a huge fan of TvP metagame

PvZ is very much differnt in that Protoss can actually force speed and roaches without being allin and has units that can survive queens so you see a lot of successful 2 base all ins and even 1 base pressue. They also can slow down zerg with pylon blocks and cannon threats. Have very good air options in phoenix/VR harrass as well as gain map control. Protoss that lose to a 12-14 min roach max do what you suggest and just turtle for 3 nexus. Protoss that do that are overwhelmed by larva mechanic just like terran is today.

PvZ may have a bit of variety, but 90% of the time it's incredibly boring. the PvZ's this HSC have been appauling. I guess not everyone can be AcE and entertain us with sick multi tasking everywhere :D

I miss my meaningful TvT's
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1920 Posts
July 08 2012 12:01 GMT
#4592
On July 08 2012 20:35 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 08 2012 19:37 tdt wrote:
On July 08 2012 18:45 Creager wrote:
On July 08 2012 17:10 tdt wrote:
On July 08 2012 16:48 red4ce wrote:
No terrans hahaha guess I'll find something else to do tomorrow. A full day of PvZ, ZvZ and PvP is not exciting at all.

You are mistaken Best matchup in SC2 since queen buff is PvP which took place of TvZ.

Honestly go watch the vod of SaSe MC g2 for example.

Anyway I never understood the hate just cause your race is not represented. I love SC and watch it all and love it all... well almost all. ZvT is quickly becoming the worst matchup in the game by far now because of 5-10 min 3CC passivity in every game where terran can't or don't do anything. Just boring as hell. Droning and hellions sitting outside zerg base for 5-10 minutes is just boring. Then you got the envible swarm which is rather one sided these days. Like an adult beating on a child. again not somthing I'm into.


How is PvZ any different from that? I could predict 9 out of 10 games with FFE for the Brotoss and fast 3rd @4-5 mins for the Zerg... First mentionable action happens past the 10 min mark most of the times.

Problem is the missing variety of maps... Maps are too huge and have an too easy accessible 3rd in most cases... They just favor these kind of macro games too much IMO.

Sure I love SC as well, but I'm just fed up with having to watch this much ZvP, ZvZ and PvP lately... Miss TvT which is the most exciting and diverse mirror MU to me :/ TvZ also got ruined which was so exciting to watch and I've never been a huge fan of TvP metagame

PvZ is very much differnt in that Protoss can actually force speed and roaches without being allin and has units that can survive queens so you see a lot of successful 2 base all ins and even 1 base pressue. They also can slow down zerg with pylon blocks and cannon threats. Have very good air options in phoenix/VR harrass as well as gain map control. Protoss that lose to a 12-14 min roach max do what you suggest and just turtle for 3 nexus. Protoss that do that are overwhelmed by larva mechanic just like terran is today.

PvZ may have a bit of variety, but 90% of the time it's incredibly boring. the PvZ's this HSC have been appauling. I guess not everyone can be AcE and entertain us with sick multi tasking everywhere :D

I miss my meaningful TvT's


Yeah AcE's warpprism usage is just awesome to watch and one of the (sadly!) few Protoss players able to equal some Terrans in regards of multitasking!
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
July 08 2012 12:04 GMT
#4593
Jesus Christ, just saw MC vs Sase game 2. That was insane.
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
July 08 2012 18:58 GMT
#4594
On July 08 2012 06:25 Fus wrote:
Any1 know where to find replay packs of homestory cup?

Might be on rapidshare at the end of the event... maybe
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
ImustnotfeaR
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom154 Posts
July 08 2012 20:55 GMT
#4595
oh wow
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