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Idra so rude 
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yea artosis already jinxed YongHwa
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IdrA is already rank 1 in the group so I don't think he really cares a lot, In an elimination game I'd hope he'd fight it out though.
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On July 06 2012 01:35 Psyclon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:33 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 06 2012 01:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:30 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:27 TazzDingo wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Benjamin99 wrote:
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Nahh he had no 4th base was a good gg Being behind does not mean you've lost. with a lower base count and bly's defensive position and upgrade advantage, it totally does. Absolutely wrong. You've lost when he's in your base killing all your shit and you have zero chance to kill the army he has inside your base. Idra had no lost that game. I'm seen countless Sc2 games where people win from further behind than that. Then please list some epic ZvZ comeback games from farther behind than that. 2scv into win. In a ZvZ? DarkForce vs Lalush. Darkforce was 30supply ahead and lost. Roach vs Roach, TSL4 qualifier 1 or 2, semifinal on Ohana. Stephano vs DarkForce in some online tourney on Shakuras. DF had 70 roaches and attacked, Stephano had 15. Steph held and won. Slivko vs Stephano. 190 vs 110 supply and Stephano somehow turned it around.
The magic happened :D. Seriously stephano is the only Z which comes to mind who has regular comebacks.
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defending early gg is lost cause, its defending idra not having fortitude to playing disadvantage game, all champions of bw slash sc2 never early gged like that, why? Because they could afford playing loser game. They had fortitude and mentality to do this. Idra didnt have it since ever?
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On July 06 2012 01:36 Dexington wrote:Idra so rude
No, he's competitive. He's actually taking the game seriously.
Unless your being sarcastic.
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On July 06 2012 01:36 AxionSteel wrote:
IdrA is already rank 1 in the group so I don't think he really cares a lot, In an elimination game I'd hope he'd fight it out though.
i've some doubts about that...
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Just seeing mana makes me laugh
hope he casts lots more.
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rotti pulling out the pink pants, such a sexy beast !!
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On July 06 2012 01:37 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:35 Psyclon wrote:On July 06 2012 01:33 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 06 2012 01:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:30 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:27 TazzDingo wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Being behind does not mean you've lost. with a lower base count and bly's defensive position and upgrade advantage, it totally does. Absolutely wrong. You've lost when he's in your base killing all your shit and you have zero chance to kill the army he has inside your base. Idra had no lost that game. I'm seen countless Sc2 games where people win from further behind than that. Then please list some epic ZvZ comeback games from farther behind than that. 2scv into win. In a ZvZ? DarkForce vs Lalush. Darkforce was 30supply ahead and lost. Roach vs Roach, TSL4 qualifier 1 or 2, semifinal on Ohana. Stephano vs DarkForce in some online tourney on Shakuras. DF had 70 roaches and attacked, Stephano had 15. Steph held and won. Slivko vs Stephano. 190 vs 110 supply and Stephano somehow turned it around. The magic happened :D. Seriously stephano is the only Z which comes to mind who has regular comebacks.
Idra fanboys will never admit it, even though he never should of GG'd, so there is no point really.
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On July 06 2012 01:37 sAsImre wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:35 Psyclon wrote:On July 06 2012 01:33 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 06 2012 01:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:30 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:27 TazzDingo wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
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Being behind does not mean you've lost. with a lower base count and bly's defensive position and upgrade advantage, it totally does. Absolutely wrong. You've lost when he's in your base killing all your shit and you have zero chance to kill the army he has inside your base. Idra had no lost that game. I'm seen countless Sc2 games where people win from further behind than that. Then please list some epic ZvZ comeback games from farther behind than that. 2scv into win. In a ZvZ? DarkForce vs Lalush. Darkforce was 30supply ahead and lost. Roach vs Roach, TSL4 qualifier 1 or 2, semifinal on Ohana. Stephano vs DarkForce in some online tourney on Shakuras. DF had 70 roaches and attacked, Stephano had 15. Steph held and won. Slivko vs Stephano. 190 vs 110 supply and Stephano somehow turned it around. The magic happened :D. Seriously stephano is the only Z which comes to mind who has regular comebacks.
Lol what?
DRG and Nestea on the premier guys across all races for comebacks. Half of Nestea's wins are comebacks.
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On July 06 2012 01:36 HaXXspetten wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:35 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:33 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:30 NEOtheONE wrote:On July 06 2012 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:27 TazzDingo wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:26 Benjamin99 wrote:On July 06 2012 01:25 MCDayC wrote:
Whuutttt... Early GG. Nahh he had no 4th base was a good gg Being behind does not mean you've lost. with a lower base count and bly's defensive position and upgrade advantage, it totally does. Absolutely wrong. You've lost when he's in your base killing all your shit and you have zero chance to kill the army he has inside your base. Idra had no lost that game. I'm seen countless Sc2 games where people win from further behind than that. Name 5 Huk vs Nestea on TDA Inca vs Rain on Terminus MKP vs Sase on TDA MVP vs Nestea on Shakuras MVP vs Squirtle on Daybreak. That's just the first five which come to my head. Hey notice something about all these games? They're not ZvZ. Don't mixup matchups please. He didn't ask for ZvZ's. I think that kinda went without saying :s
Not to somebody that just posts here to disagree with others ... I'll never understand these people :D
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On July 06 2012 01:37 Rulker wrote:No, he's competitive. He's actually taking the game seriously. Unless your being sarcastic.
I figured the face would imply that lol
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On July 06 2012 01:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:35 Whatson wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea, list examples of a ZvZ comeback with
1. A severe upgrade disadvantage
2. Same army compositions
3. Lower base count
4. Lower drone count Nestea vs DRG on Antiga. That game Violet vs Symbol at MLG I forget the map. Stephano vs Slivko at Dreamhack. Nestea vs Haypro on Shattered. Nestea vs Slush on Shattered.
Coca vs Sniper on atlantis in the GSTL
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Good mind games from naama
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defending early gg is lost case, its defending idra not having fortitude to playing disadvantage game, all champions of bw slash sc2 never early gged like that, why? Because they could afford playing loser game. They had fortitude and mentality to do this. Idra didnt have it since ever?
I don't understand why after 2 years this still comes up with Idra. Regardless of if you do or don't agree with it, he has said over and over for his personal mindset, he would rather not try to come back in a game but simply leave regroup and play the next game when behind. And although he has battled out and even won some games from behind more so than very early in his SC2 time, I don't get why every time he leaves a game we have to have this discussion. It is his style, it is what he does. It is hard to argue that it doesn't work for him. He knows himself better than random forum guy, and he is playing a game professionally. So depending on what you consider success, I think what he has done has been successful and don't get why it is a point of discussion every time he leaves a game. Why can't we just go, "oh that is what he does cool, next game."
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On July 06 2012 01:38 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:37 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:35 Psyclon wrote:On July 06 2012 01:33 HaXXspetten wrote:On July 06 2012 01:32 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:31 sAsImre wrote:On July 06 2012 01:30 Whatson wrote:On July 06 2012 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:27 TazzDingo wrote:
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with a lower base count and bly's defensive position and upgrade advantage, it totally does. Absolutely wrong. You've lost when he's in your base killing all your shit and you have zero chance to kill the army he has inside your base. Idra had no lost that game. I'm seen countless Sc2 games where people win from further behind than that. Then please list some epic ZvZ comeback games from farther behind than that. 2scv into win. In a ZvZ? DarkForce vs Lalush. Darkforce was 30supply ahead and lost. Roach vs Roach, TSL4 qualifier 1 or 2, semifinal on Ohana. Stephano vs DarkForce in some online tourney on Shakuras. DF had 70 roaches and attacked, Stephano had 15. Steph held and won. Slivko vs Stephano. 190 vs 110 supply and Stephano somehow turned it around. The magic happened :D. Seriously stephano is the only Z which comes to mind who has regular comebacks. Lol what? DRG and Nestea on the premier guys across all races for comebacks. Half of Nestea's wins are comebacks.
in ZvZ. Nestea's wins were mostly from mind games and now, i didn't see too much ZvZ from him. DRG, well, mechanics do wonders i suppose :D
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On July 06 2012 01:39 m0ck wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On July 06 2012 01:35 Whatson wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea, list examples of a ZvZ comeback with
1. A severe upgrade disadvantage
2. Same army compositions
3. Lower base count
4. Lower drone count Nestea vs DRG on Antiga. That game Violet vs Symbol at MLG I forget the map. Stephano vs Slivko at Dreamhack. Nestea vs Haypro on Shattered. Nestea vs Slush on Shattered. Coca vs Sniper on atlantis in the GSTL
Yep. These guys have no idea. So desperate to fanboy Idra that they pretend early gging isn't one of the dumbest things in Starcraft.
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i really do not understand how anyone could think idra could've won game 2 unless bly had a stroke
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On July 06 2012 01:36 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2012 01:35 Whatson wrote:
Aeroplaneoverthesea, list examples of a ZvZ comeback with
1. A severe upgrade disadvantage
2. Same army compositions
3. Lower base count
4. Lower drone count Nestea vs DRG on Antiga. That game Violet vs Symbol at MLG I forget the map. Stephano vs Slivko at Dreamhack. Nestea vs Haypro on Shattered. Nestea vs Slush on Shattered.
...and suddendly everyone stops quoting you telling that you don't understand anything.
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