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paintfive
Profile Joined September 2011
785 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#541
fuck yeah TOM. cut off Genius' head nAni
Frex
Profile Joined March 2012
Finland888 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#542
On July 04 2012 18:29 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:28 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:27 Fjodorov wrote:
Guess genius isnt confident in his regular gameplay

nope, just means he was confident in naniwa not scouting, naniwa's fault 100%

Yup. Genius even put them in a very easily scouted location. I believe just sending a probe down would have seen them.


He saw those gates when he send his first stalker down his ramp.
Kamate
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania580 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#543
noooooo, Naniwa
I just tune in , and didnt catch quite clearly, what was about that pylon that Artosis was saying? or was all over ,no matter?
Castor385
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands20 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#544
On July 04 2012 18:27 Shikyo wrote:
I was really surprised he didn't probe drill the pylon.

Naniwa would have won the game if he spent 2 minutes in a custom game learning a strategy that's over a year old and has been talked about everywhere and is known to every Zerg (And should be to every Protoss as well because they lose to that when they wall with pylons)

Yeah that surprised me as well. probe stack that pylon down in seconds
Study everything, You'll find something you can use
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#545
On July 04 2012 18:26 MeLo wrote:
Sending one probe to scout makes no difference at all to the economy.

Really dumb by Naniwa.


It actually does, especially with the StarTaleQ PvP builds that actually only work out with the extra minerals you get from not scouting or scouting very late. If sending a probe to scout had no difference to your economy at all, then everyone would scout, what a dumb unintelligent thing to say.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2012 09:29 GMT
#546
haha nice scouting nani
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 04 2012 09:30 GMT
#547
On July 04 2012 18:29 anApple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:27 Shikyo wrote:
I was really surprised he didn't probe drill the pylon.

Naniwa would have won the game if he spent 2 minutes in a custom game learning a strategy that's over a year old and has been talked about everywhere and is known to every Zerg (And should be to every Protoss as well because they lose to that when they wall with pylons)

you can't do that any more though.

It's still better than amoving, at least from what I've tried
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DrakeFZX3
Profile Joined October 2010
United States925 Posts
July 04 2012 09:30 GMT
#548
On July 04 2012 18:29 Rokoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:29 Corrosive wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:28 Die4Ever wrote:
On July 04 2012 18:27 Fjodorov wrote:
Guess genius isnt confident in his regular gameplay

nope, just means he was confident in naniwa not scouting, naniwa's fault 100%

Yup. Genius even put them in a very easily scouted location. I believe just sending a probe down would have seen them.


He saw those gates when he send his first stalker down his ramp.


Obviously, by then it was too late.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 09:32:04
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#549
Usually not scouting makes more sense on the ladder when you don't know the starting positions because you can't really proxy gate properly.
So scouting is done to figure out whether it's a four gate / early pressure or not. There are builds that hold everything without knowing what's coming and Nani was doing one of these. It's just that not scouting on basically a two player map is pretty stupid imo.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#550
wow early nexus, not bad against phoenix
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#551
On July 04 2012 18:29 Kamate wrote:
noooooo, Naniwa
I just tune in , and didnt catch quite clearly, what was about that pylon that Artosis was saying? or was all over ,no matter?

genius walled in with 2 pylon and forge, with 2 cannons behind. naniwa almost killed both pylons, which would have theoritcally given him a chance to win
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Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#552
Expanding is good vs phoenix...but looks like Genius might all-in so this will be close.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#553
Naniwa and Tastosis, life is good <3
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#554
On July 04 2012 18:29 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:26 MeLo wrote:
Sending one probe to scout makes no difference at all to the economy.

Really dumb by Naniwa.


It actually does, especially with the StarTaleQ PvP builds that actually only work out with the extra minerals you get from not scouting or scouting very late. If sending a probe to scout had no difference to your economy at all, then everyone would scout, what a dumb unintelligent thing to say.

Be that as it may, I'd say game 1 shows you should always scout as not scouting can cause an instant loss.
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#555
okay how the fuck do i skip this stupid free hq thing, I don't want to have to bother signing up with a credit card and then having to remember to cancel it so I don't get the fee...if I click "cancel" nothing happens, OK leads me to the signup..
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9132 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#556
I don't understand why recently pros neglect scouting in pvp
You're now breathing manually
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1449 Posts
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#557
someone received error 0000x0000051 also? whats that?
Metaltoss
Profile Joined April 2011
France781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 09:32:05
July 04 2012 09:31 GMT
#558
On July 04 2012 18:31 opterown wrote:
wow early nexus, not bad against phoenix


Depends. If Genius has no aggression to go with the phoenixes, then it's a huge advantage. If he sees it fast and decides to punish it with a phoenix + 3-4 gate push, it's gg no re.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#559
On July 04 2012 18:29 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 18:26 MeLo wrote:
Sending one probe to scout makes no difference at all to the economy.

Really dumb by Naniwa.


It actually does, especially with the StarTaleQ PvP builds that actually only work out with the extra minerals you get from not scouting or scouting very late. If sending a probe to scout had no difference to your economy at all, then everyone would scout, what a dumb unintelligent thing to say.

After 16 miners you get very diminishing returns so at least the 17th probe should be simple to send to scout, the economic hit is very very tiny
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
July 04 2012 09:32 GMT
#560
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