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On July 04 2012 21:15 nojok wrote:
Seriously, byun outclassed genius by miles! He read genius like a book, sniped all observers, emp all templars etc. But genius played poorly, poor placement from colossi & templars all game long, still could have comeback many times...
Tbh, it's difficult to have good engagement on this map as Protoss, but that's just me.
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On July 04 2012 21:14 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:10 Azzur wrote:BYUN!!!  So happy!!! Really happy to see who Protoss players who a-move their armies around into inferior engagements get smashed Lucky Byun didn't get carried away after his first major victory and built medivacs to heal up... if he didn't, storms could've wrecked his army What !???? Genius A-moves ?? You're pathetic...
Maybe a-move is too generous? Move command into the highground position??
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On July 04 2012 21:12 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:09 AxionSteel wrote:
Not the best army control from Genius =s Beautiful control from ByuN though
Go ByuN!!! Genius army control is great but it's much harder to control when you don't know your opponent position because every obs you have get instantly sniped by scans... Byun played it right but you can't really blame Genius. Obs is really too ez to spot by pros.
His army control is great when he clumps templars for the money emp and doesn't pay attention to his collossi pathing? If there's someone to blame, it's Genius 100%.
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Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen.
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God I hate this circa-1980's Dream Theater knock-off song
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On July 04 2012 21:16 Azzur wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:14 samurai80 wrote:On July 04 2012 21:10 Azzur wrote:BYUN!!! So happy!!! Really happy to see who Protoss players who a-move their armies around into inferior engagements get smashed Lucky Byun didn't get carried away after his first major victory and built medivacs to heal up... if he didn't, storms could've wrecked his army What !???? Genius A-moves ?? You're pathetic... Maybe a-move is too generous? Move command into the highground position??
Revenge of the Sith Protoss
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On July 04 2012 21:17 ImNightmare wrote:
Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen.
HAHA!
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On July 04 2012 21:17 mikedebo wrote:
God I hate this circa-1980's Dream Theater knock-off song
the 80's never died, just your taste in music 
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On July 04 2012 21:17 ImNightmare wrote:
Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen.
There's still wine with corks?
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On July 04 2012 21:08 Akhee wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:02 Kreb wrote:On July 04 2012 20:58 Akhee wrote:On July 04 2012 20:53 Rokoz wrote:On July 04 2012 20:48 Stormiii wrote:On July 04 2012 20:47 Rokoz wrote:On July 04 2012 20:45 Stormiii wrote:On July 04 2012 20:44 Rokoz wrote:On July 04 2012 20:42 Fragile51 wrote:
siege tanks were bad in TvP they said
make only bio they said Now BuyN lose. Yes, they are bad. When you got 40 less workers, yes they are bad. So with 40 more workers siege tanks are good, ok I get it now. If tanks were actually good in TvP you would see them used more. When u can reinforce your army, yes they are good. The thing is that when you have siege tanks it's very easy for the mobile Protoss deathball catch the Terran player unsieged just like what happened in this game. And when it comes to reinforcing Terran is the most ineffective at reinforcing army. mobile Protoss deathball mobile Protoss mobile not protoss P deathball has always been extremely mobile. Yes, people were wrong when that was a "truth" being repeated over and over long time ago. All units move at descent speed, and at same speed. The biggest units (colossi) can even cliffwalk to increase their mobility even more. Compare to T (BCs in "airdeathballs", Thors/Tank in mech deathball) and Z (BLs), P is extremely mobile. yea walking up cliffs is just awesome, it helps so much in my mobility, you helped me so much
Wow, totally ignored the essence of my post (that P deathball is mobile) to only try and hit one small part of it (cliffwalk), yet you even managed to miss anyway. Yes, cliffwalk helps a lot with mobiility. It mean you can almost instanly be wherever you need when defending drops or other hit and run attack. Try play mech TvT, have 3-4 medievacs of bio dropped in yout main and watch your Thors/Tanks slowly have to crawl back to your natural, then derp single file up your own ramp. Compare that to how easy colossi can defend anything from your main to 3rd on, say, Antiga (colossi on lowground between 2nd/3rd), Cloud Kingdom (Colossi at 2nd or 3rd), and several other maps. They're both faster and not restricted by map layout (= way more mobile).
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On July 04 2012 21:14 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:12 samurai80 wrote:On July 04 2012 21:09 AxionSteel wrote:
Not the best army control from Genius =s Beautiful control from ByuN though
Go ByuN!!! Genius army control is great but it's much harder to control when you don't know your opponent position because every obs you have get instantly sniped by scans... Byun played it right but you can't really blame Genius. Obs is really too ez to spot by pros. Collosi walking around edges without his army and getting isolated, Templar out of position, all of his army in a straight line instead of a good spread, etc etc It was not a good game from Genius
The colossi was the one blunder ok. Then for the big engagements he was doing so much harass at the same time. And being blind is making things much harder. Much easier for Byun who was constantly scanning.
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On July 04 2012 21:16 samurai80 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:11 Bojas wrote:On July 04 2012 21:10 Havik_ wrote:
Must..... not...... balance..... whine.... You would argue that Genius played better than Byun? I would argue it was very good play from both. Obs sniping was the key to the big engagements imo.
Seeing his point about balance whine I was more curious about his opinion to be honest. Your opinion seems smarter though.
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On July 04 2012 21:18 Waxangel wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:17 mikedebo wrote:
God I hate this circa-1980's Dream Theater knock-off song the 80's never died, just your taste in music
Waxangel you have just been beyond awesome lately with your posting. :D
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On July 04 2012 21:18 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:17 ImNightmare wrote:
Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen. There's still wine with corks?
She said what?
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On July 04 2012 21:17 mikedebo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 21:17 ImNightmare wrote:
Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen. HAHA!
Haha as my first post (long time lurker) I just wanna say that made me laugh so hard. I really hope I see at least one proxy tonight.
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On July 04 2012 21:17 ImNightmare wrote:
Popped some red wine, awaiting the cheese from Mr keen.
White wine is often better with most of the cheeses actually 
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Oh my god, could this break between matches be any more longer????????????????????????
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back to classic GSL music
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Just to add more anticipation, Keen did the proxy 2 rax against one of the toss in the OSL qualies
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