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noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 20:01:34
June 27 2012 19:54 GMT
#61
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classed not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
June 27 2012 19:54 GMT
#62
oh no its khaldor+wolf.... I would prefer wolf solo casting over wolf+khaldor
rasnj
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 27 2012 19:54 GMT
#63
On June 28 2012 03:55 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 03:47 antilyon wrote:
On June 28 2012 03:33 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 03:30 ragz_gt wrote:
Oddly enough, I feel so much better about MKP's chance after his choke job in TAC. You kinda know he would never put three good performance in a row.


TAC was played about 2 years ago, it doesn't show anything skill-wise from recent days

TAC3 against Liquid.


I know.. the games weren't played recently.

Are you really suggesting the games that aired last night were played 2 years ago? Surely not. Hero nor taeja were even on the team then, and both the patch and metagame didn't match sc2 2 years ago.

I definitely see symbol advancing. All the 3 others could advance as well, but symbol should comfortably take down MKP if they meet, and squirtle should lose the first match and therefore have to win both the loser match and final match. Therefore I would lean towards Symbol + MC, but no combination of the form Symbol + X would shock me, and tbh no combination is really very unlikely.
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
June 27 2012 20:02 GMT
#64
On June 28 2012 04:54 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 03:55 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 03:47 antilyon wrote:
On June 28 2012 03:33 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 03:30 ragz_gt wrote:
Oddly enough, I feel so much better about MKP's chance after his choke job in TAC. You kinda know he would never put three good performance in a row.


TAC was played about 2 years ago, it doesn't show anything skill-wise from recent days

TAC3 against Liquid.


I know.. the games weren't played recently.

Are you really suggesting the games that aired last night were played 2 years ago? Surely not. Hero nor taeja were even on the team then, and both the patch and metagame didn't match sc2 2 years ago.

I definitely see symbol advancing. All the 3 others could advance as well, but symbol should comfortably take down MKP if they meet, and squirtle should lose the first match and therefore have to win both the loser match and final match. Therefore I would lean towards Symbol + MC, but no combination of the form Symbol + X would shock me, and tbh no combination is really very unlikely.


Hyperboleeeeeee. Not to take anything away from Taeja because he played amazing(today and whenever the games were played), just saying it's not exactly recent.
Schmoooopy
Profile Joined July 2011
United States448 Posts
June 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#65
Hoping for Symbol/MKP, but this is impossible to predict.
b0rt_
Profile Joined October 2011
Norway931 Posts
June 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#66
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classed not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans


what?
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-27 20:08:45
June 27 2012 20:03 GMT
#67
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classes not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans

I never said "symbol is the best zerg". Symbols wins against MKP not due to the meta game/patch releated. Symbol have better vT than mkp's vZ, deal with it.

And i always said that MKP best player in foreign tournaments, not in Korea.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 27 2012 20:08 GMT
#68
Gogo MC! I'm cheering for you! :D
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
June 27 2012 20:09 GMT
#69
On June 28 2012 05:03 dragonborn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classes not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans

I never said "symbol is the best zerg". Symbols wins against MKP not due to the meta game/patch releated. Symbol have better vT than mkp's vZ, deal with it.

And i always said that MKP best player in foreign tournaments, not in Korea.

Hey dragonborn, how come u don't have Symbol's reverse all kill mentioned in his fan club?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
MONXY FIST
Profile Joined November 2009
United States142 Posts
June 27 2012 20:10 GMT
#70
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classed not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans

Win what? Symbol hasn't won anything.
None but a coward dares to boast that he has never known fear.
Hondelul
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
1999 Posts
June 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#71
Sick banner, thanks opterown. And the new section headers are nice, too! The 3 different header styles in the second post look a bit odd though.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
June 27 2012 20:14 GMT
#72
Anyone remember this glorious night? Where not only did the lineup LOOK sick but the series actually turned out to exceed the hype?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=272002

Yeah it was kind of the best night of the gsl ever.

Today's lineup looks like it should top that, but will it? Idk..

Not much analysis on this one, because really, you could make a decent argument for everyone to get out. I went with Squirtle/Symbol since they're what's hot lately for their respective races, but MC and MKP could easily walk over them too. Nobody is clearly better nor worse here imo.

Hope it's MC/Symbol though for better ro8 match ups and because I just like them way more.
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
June 27 2012 20:15 GMT
#73
On June 28 2012 05:09 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 05:03 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classes not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans

I never said "symbol is the best zerg". Symbols wins against MKP not due to the meta game/patch releated. Symbol have better vT than mkp's vZ, deal with it.

And i always said that MKP best player in foreign tournaments, not in Korea.

Hey dragonborn, how come u don't have Symbol's reverse all kill mentioned in his fan club?

I was busy to updating member list :D

Just updated achivements :d
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
June 27 2012 20:20 GMT
#74
MC is probably going to advance. Of the whole group, he has the most experience winning tournaments and playing under severe pressure. And, more often than not, this is what makes the biggest difference in the GSL. See: Mvp's run last season.
"There are always some Eskimos ready to instruct the Congolese on how to cope with heat waves." - S.J.Lec
noddy
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom927 Posts
June 27 2012 20:21 GMT
#75
On June 28 2012 05:10 MONXY FIST wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 04:54 noddy wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:29 dragonborn wrote:
On June 28 2012 04:22 noddy wrote:
MLG's group stages can be just as much about preparation and Symbol got destroyed despite current state of TvZ(ie. he should win, as DRG says)

Also yes, it was definitely cheesing. But hey ho, he beat MKP in standard games last GSL.

When symbol wins, patch.

when mkp wins, superior player.

lol, good ol' mkp fans.


When MarineKing wins, tournament classed not important

When Symbol wins, best Zerg in the world, won due to superior skill not due to the metagame

lol, symbol fans

Win what? Symbol hasn't won anything.


I agree with this but people make out he's the best player in the world because he wins some matches
JohnHarr
Profile Joined November 2011
United States375 Posts
June 27 2012 20:21 GMT
#76
Squirtle > Symbol
MKP > MC
Squirtle > MKP
MC > Symbol
MKP > MC

Squirtle and MKP advance.

Although if MC beats MKP in the first match, I can see Symbol advancing.
No matter how much the Earth dirties the snow, its nature is still white.
Sp00ly
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1546 Posts
June 27 2012 20:22 GMT
#77
On June 28 2012 04:54 Bam Lee wrote:
oh no its khaldor+wolf.... I would prefer wolf solo casting over wolf+khaldor


How can you dislike Khaldor? Blasphemy.
Eruism
Profile Joined December 2011
United States312 Posts
June 27 2012 20:24 GMT
#78
squirtle > symbol
mkp > mc
mkp > squirtle
mc > symbol
mc > squirtle
PartinG MarineKing Mvp Polt Keen ByuN <3
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
June 27 2012 20:29 GMT
#79
On June 28 2012 05:11 Hondelul wrote:
Sick banner, thanks opterown. And the new section headers are nice, too! The 3 different header styles in the second post look a bit odd though.

opterown didn't make the banner. I want to make this clear.

Also, I already PMed BLinD-RawR, he'll get me the other section headers later
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
skiersteve
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom268 Posts
June 27 2012 20:33 GMT
#80
remember people symbol destroyed mkp in the ro32 like totally one sided and he manhandled parting as well even though he did drop a game i wudnt be amazed if symbol and squirtle go through as much as i would love mc and mkp
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