IPL Face Off: San Francisco Showdown - TAC3 Finals

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xmungam

United States1050 Posts

August 12 2012 01:39 GMT

#7821

On August 12 2012 10:39 Dodgin wrote:

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Yeah most likely, he's played like 8 games now.

I don't think he's "tired" but i think his decision making is getting shaky, he could use more support from the team imo

trinxified

Canada7774 Posts

August 12 2012 01:39 GMT

#7822

Did the first Bo9 happen this morning?

nanaoei

3358 Posts

August 12 2012 01:40 GMT

#7823

On August 12 2012 10:32 oogieogie wrote:

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On August 12 2012 10:27 nanaoei wrote:

On August 12 2012 10:20 oogieogie wrote:

On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Taeja is undoubtly the best player on liquid atm (or just today / recently even) but saying this is taeja's win is wrong.

Have you not seen him speak to the TL players after every game? he immediately leaves his seat to speak to his team and take advice / criticism from them.

Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

Teamliquid are supporting him every step of the way, wether it be inspirational support, tactics / strategy advice / cannon foddering so he can have more time to recover, whatever. Its a team effort.

In all team games, you have a star player, but they cant win it alone (most of the time) - for example my FPS team has a fucking beast of a sniper, but he cant win it without the rusher calling locations, the team locking locations down, taking players out and allowing him to scout regular locations and take them out too. Alone, he would be located and fucked in the butthole, its much the same for taeja IMO.

lets address this.

He takes advice / criticism from them? It could be or it could just be congrates/generic messages about you can do it etc. that means just not much.Do I think taeja would have won had he played from game on of the 2nd BO9? So far he is showing pretty well that he could of. Hero is their 2nd best bet, but that is pretty much it with maybe zenio/ret who could take a game (which zenio did, but honestly would have rather seen taeja from the start).

Taeja is showing exhaustion when he is displaying great micro still doesn't make much sense when I havn't really seen much exhaustion from korean players like ever or really even just sc2 pros. They should be used to playing a ton of games. Taeja seemed to not even need to recover, and he should have even recovered during all the downtime. There is no way in hell you can compare a FPS to a RTS. I mean a competitive FPS is a team game while RTS is a single game, but this tournament just has a team aspect. How was the rest of the team not just cannon folder when taeja/hero/maybe zenio are only really taking games?

last thing: I hate everyone who is saying that team liquid is the best FOREIGN team. It would be like EG being the best FOREIGN team with only puma/jyp getting results..it just makes no sense for me.

why would you hate it?
that feeling and expression of saying something's the best is similar to when say...
you're out playing volleyball, or whichever sport you enjoy best (including starcraft) and you just happen to say, 'this game is the best'.
or if you're hanging by a thread over a cliff and a friend manages to catch you by the very edge of his grasp, pulling you to safety... once again you say, 'you're the best, man!' (in this case he is the best though, lol)

it's obvious [it's an] opinion bundled by a bunch of feelings/emotions
a lot of people would not argue that EG is the best FOREIGNNNN team because actually, team liquid is :DDDD

obvious and opinion? what..

I hate people saying TL is the best foreign team when only the koreans are putting up results. Thats its there is nothing more to it. If ret/haypro/nony/sheth were winning games for this finals or in the team league then it would be a team effect, but its really just ret/haypro/nony/sheth play then lose then taeja cleans everyone up.

there are poeple in the community who watch mostly for results, and there are people who love to watch their favourite players (sometimes 'foreign') grow and perform. in this case, we have an entire team--a multinational one-- full of these amazing players (in more ways than how their recent results show).

i still don't understand where the hate is warranted//really comes from. we're just praising/congradulating a team (yes the WHOLE team) for where it is.
are you going to say that none of team liquid's members contributed to how TL is in the TAC3 finals?
there's a lot more that can be said, but that's fine. whatever.
and yeah, i'm going to say again that team liquid is the best FOREIGN team

blacksheepwall

China1530 Posts

August 12 2012 01:40 GMT

#7824

Taeja is such a boss. <3

Moka

Canada942 Posts

August 12 2012 01:40 GMT

#7825

Taeja up in supply&?? huh

Makro

France16890 Posts

August 12 2012 01:40 GMT

#7826

On August 12 2012 10:39 trinxified wrote:
Did the first Bo9 happen this morning?

yes

PhoenixVoid

Canada32755 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7827

How does TaeJa do it, that is the question.

Chicane

United States7875 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7828

Taeja is just such a beast.. holy hell.

JWD

United States12607 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7829

Taeja's army control is so fucking off the chain it blows my mind

has he soundly lost a major lategame battle all day ?? maybe 1 in the YongHwa game

playLoud

United States114 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7830

why are there no results posted in the main post?

babylon

8765 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7831

More GhostKing than GhostKingPrime. Good call by Byun changing his name back.

aznball123

2759 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7832

Taeja is playing too well... too well.. only if I can have 1/4th of his skills.

glzElectromaster

Japan2474 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7833

dafaq was that ghost drop.

Ghostcom

Denmark4783 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7834

Taeja trying to implement the 4 ghost drop, not working out that great.

Badfatpanda

United States9719 Posts

August 12 2012 01:41 GMT

#7835

LOL IdrA: I don't understand. I like his choice to continue with medivacs on a map this big. Obviously if he had known he would have gotten a few vikings out, but he does shit with the medivacs instead of just sitting there and derping. That's the difference.