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bLecK
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia625 Posts
August 12 2012 01:45 GMT
#7861
I'm going to be late to work because of Taeja :/

FINISH HIM DAMMIT!!!
Yoo Ara | Lee Min Jung /Suzy/Taeyeon/Eunji/ NaRae/ Alice
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#7862
Taeja has surprisingly low apm.
Sekken
Profile Joined August 2012
Afghanistan248 Posts
August 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#7863
Maybe not that one...
High dia terran, and slayer of Zergs -.-
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
August 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#7864
Come on seed gogogo!

Taeja is so good but Seed might have a chance if Taeja gets tired and takes a big storm or two.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#7865
I wonder if Parting would be able to beat Taeja offline...
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 12 2012 01:46 GMT
#7866
Wow only 20 SCVs for taeja.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7867
omg make a couple of cannons on the cliff bro
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7868
On August 12 2012 10:46 babylon wrote:
Taeja has surprisingly low apm.


Not much to really do when your maxed out. Just babysit your army and make more buildings.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7869
Seed is getting so abused over this cliff here. great use of map by Taeja

kid practices !!!
✌
GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7870
this is so intense.
dainbramage
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia1442 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7871
23 kill DT
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7872
On August 12 2012 10:43 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 10:34 Capped wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:32 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:27 nanaoei wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:20 oogieogie wrote:
On August 12 2012 10:09 Capped wrote:
Taeja is undoubtly the best player on liquid atm (or just today / recently even) but saying this is taeja's win is wrong.

Have you not seen him speak to the TL players after every game? he immediately leaves his seat to speak to his team and take advice / criticism from them.

Do you think taeja would have won had he played from game one of the 2nd b09? sure, TL were just "cannon fodder" in your eyes but zenio took a game which everyone bet against, Hero hasnt even played, who is probably their 2nd best bet at winning this thing. They put themselves in the line of fire so taeja could get the much needed rest so he could come out and wreck faces again, his exhaustion is showing with the younghwa game. (epic micro btfw WAOW) how do you think he will fair now? theres a reason he was sent out 4th this time with Hero as backup.

Teamliquid are supporting him every step of the way, wether it be inspirational support, tactics / strategy advice / cannon foddering so he can have more time to recover, whatever. Its a team effort.

In all team games, you have a star player, but they cant win it alone (most of the time) - for example my FPS team has a fucking beast of a sniper, but he cant win it without the rusher calling locations, the team locking locations down, taking players out and allowing him to scout regular locations and take them out too. Alone, he would be located and fucked in the butthole, its much the same for taeja IMO.

lets address this.

He takes advice / criticism from them? It could be or it could just be congrates/generic messages about you can do it etc. that means just not much.Do I think taeja would have won had he played from game on of the 2nd BO9? So far he is showing pretty well that he could of. Hero is their 2nd best bet, but that is pretty much it with maybe zenio/ret who could take a game (which zenio did, but honestly would have rather seen taeja from the start).

Taeja is showing exhaustion when he is displaying great micro still doesn't make much sense when I havn't really seen much exhaustion from korean players like ever or really even just sc2 pros. They should be used to playing a ton of games. Taeja seemed to not even need to recover, and he should have even recovered during all the downtime. There is no way in hell you can compare a FPS to a RTS. I mean a competitive FPS is a team game while RTS is a single game, but this tournament just has a team aspect. How was the rest of the team not just cannon folder when taeja/hero/maybe zenio are only really taking games?

last thing: I hate everyone who is saying that team liquid is the best FOREIGN team. It would be like EG being the best FOREIGN team with only puma/jyp getting results..it just makes no sense for me.


why would you hate it?
that feeling and expression of saying something's the best is similar to when say...
you're out playing volleyball, or whichever sport you enjoy best (including starcraft) and you just happen to say, 'this game is the best'.
or if you're hanging by a thread over a cliff and a friend manages to catch you by the very edge of his grasp, pulling you to safety... once again you say, 'you're the best, man!' (in this case he is the best though, lol)

it's obvious and opinion bundled by a bunch of feelings/emotions
a lot of people would not argue that EG is the best FOREIGNNNN team because actually, team liquid is :DDDD

obvious and opinion? what..

I hate people saying TL is the best foreign team when only the koreans are putting up results. Thats its there is nothing more to it. If ret/haypro/nony/sheth were winning games for this finals or in the team league then it would be a team effect, but its really just ret/haypro/nony/sheth play then lose then taeja cleans everyone up.


While its a korean winning the games yes, and its unlikely its possible without him, its still a team effort.

(Self quote in case missed)


On August 12 2012 10:28 Capped wrote:
I dont believe i mentioned the forgien element once. i said about hero and zenio / ret for sure though.

You dont think congratulatory messages alone could have an effect on taeja? you dont think 8 hard fought live high-stress tournament wins in a row would take a toll? Im also confused.

Yes his micro at the end of that game was impressive, but lets not confuse it for what it was - a desperation move that worked. Literally eveyrone exclaimed the game was over, the liquid team had their heads in their hands. Taeja realised he had lost it because younghwa had outplayed him with his decision making and plays. (Not talking mechanics here) and tried desperately to win due to the stress he was under, and it paid off. He realises he' s the best hope of liquid coming away with this.

While taejas mechanics and speed is still top notch, mentally he's tired and its showing, his decision making is becoming flawed, his plays are sloppy. Its happening more and more, this isnt just ladder grinding, this is a high profile tournament with hopes riding almost solely on him. Its a fucking huge pressure.


Without the rest between Bo9's, would he have been mentally prepared to take down his opponents?

He realises he is the best hope of liquid coming away with this does not signify a team effort. He has to expect himself to do everything since he can only count on maybe Hero/zenio for really taking a game or helping him. The congratulatory messages alone I don't think means a lot when he can't talk strats or any real gameplays since there is no real terran besides him on liquid.

I can see the huge pressure now, but it didn't really show for me in the yonghwa game.

I do think he would be mentally prepared since there was enough downtime caused from IPL, but if there was none then he might be way under prepared.



Well, opinions differ, enjoy the remaining games ^_^ i hope you have alcohol as i do! XD
Useless wet fish.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7873
"Huge storm on the ghosts!"

None die, instantly healed...
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7874
SEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

THAT WAS SO SICK
aznball123
Profile Joined February 2012
2759 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7875
Omg, huge mistake by Taeja
Mmm, what to watch.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7876
what??????????????
Kevmeister @ Dota2
AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7877
SEEED!!
IM & EG supporter
Looms
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4624 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7878
holy shit seed with the perfect defense against that
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7879
OH GOD THE TEMPLARS
o choro é livre
Lennient
Profile Joined January 2012
497 Posts
August 12 2012 01:47 GMT
#7880
that was the game-ending move by Taeja
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