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Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
August 12 2012 00:21 GMT
#6861
On August 12 2012 09:20 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:17 Liquid`Drone wrote:
jesus christ taeja is the best player in the world. and there has never been an equally strong candidate for that spot.

MVP during his reign of terror.

I still don't think anything beats going undefeated in an entire gsl AND winning back-to-back 4-0 finals...
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6862
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ggrrg
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Bulgaria2717 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6863
On August 12 2012 09:15 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
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On August 12 2012 09:13 pdd wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:11 SigmaoctanusIV wrote:
why didn't they put Hero against first, save taeja for a little later!

I really think that in this sort of format it's not always best to save the best for last. Too much pressure on that player and momentum is a really important factor. You want to stop your opponent's momentum asap.


That is only true if all your other teammates lose their games. having the best for last when he only has to win 1 or 2 games puts you in a good position especially if that player is Taeja.


It doesn't make sense to send out your second best player (hero) to play the most volatile matchup in sc2 (pvp) and risk to lose him that way. (That's my interpretation of what nazgul said about why he doesn't want to send out hero against protoss).
starception
Profile Joined August 2012
205 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6864
On August 12 2012 09:15 Str1keFreedom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:14 ELA wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 zefreak wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 starception wrote:
5-3... TL too good of a team for LG-IM to handle, especially without Mvp.


TL too good of a team? Taeja is the only won who does anything for them.


And what has IM done? According to you, they just have to get their 10 players to just snipe 1 person - And they have 4 weeks to prepare for it and fails to do it.


IDK how this disproves what I said. This proves exactly what I said. Which is that the entire tourney is Taeja vs IM. I never said IM is doing better. All i said is how can you call the entire TL team is better than team IM when it is just Taeja vs IM. All you did was repeat what i said.


Because Taeja has the best mechanics out of anyone in SC2 and TL is the best team because they helped Taeja prepare to snipe each LG-IM player. Taeja would still be a typical Terran if he was still in SlayerS because SlayerS Terrans are notoriously bad at TvP. Here in TL, he had LiquidHero to practice against. In SlayerS, Puzzle and Alicia aren't that good versus Terran so he didn't realize his potential yet.
Sutekhy
Profile Joined July 2012
43 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6865
So uhh, anyone have any idea about what's going on? There's like 20 people swarming Taeja's computer.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6866
MVP in 2011 was more dominant than Taeja is currently by far. Taeja hasn't done more than MKP tbh. Their results are almost identical, and both carry their teams.
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6867
soooooo.............

this is awkward...........................

can someone fill me in on what's happened since Taeja took down Nestea...

all I see are people milling around on-stage... was there a disc or something????

I assume we're in the second set,,, @!@@# >>>?????????
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 12 2012 00:22 GMT
#6869
On August 12 2012 09:20 MCDayC wrote:
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On August 12 2012 09:19 Fionn wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:17 Liquid`Drone wrote:
jesus christ taeja is the best player in the world. and there has never been an equally strong candidate for that spot.


Nestea when he had his perfect GSL season and had won GSL May like two months before.

Mvp in early 2011 when he destroyed everyone, beating MKP twice in GSL finals.

And late 2011 when he got top 4 in every tournament he entered, including multiple GSL finals and semi finals in a row.

It wasn't that long ago that MKP was tearing it up like Taeja is currently, for me that was quite similar in that he was placing strongly pretty much everywhere.

MVP as his peak imo showed more dominance in his games, but didn't play as many tournaments as he probably could have (or in comparison to someone like MC). Nestea has shown the strongest prepared GSL play yet, but I've never been that impressed with him in other tournaments, especially when he plays in foreign LANs he loses that edge he gains from pre-preparing.

There isn't really a 'best' player until you define what you view as the most important attributes to value imo
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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sage_francis
Profile Joined December 2006
France1823 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6870
On August 12 2012 09:15 zero445 wrote:
[image loading]


lawl ^^ hilarious !!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46516 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6871
On August 12 2012 09:22 Sutekhy wrote:
So uhh, anyone have any idea about what's going on? There's like 20 people swarming Taeja's computer.


They're hoping some of Taeja's talent rubs off on them.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6872
On August 12 2012 09:21 LighT. wrote:
IM should have sent in MVP/MC and then made:
First 1st Player
Nestea 2nd
Seed 3rd
MVP 4th
MC 5th


Well i think both MVP and MC would rather rest and practice for WCS tbh. Which is why they probably didnt go.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6873
On August 12 2012 09:22 Kaal wrote:
[image loading]

Thank you.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6874
On August 12 2012 09:22 Kaal wrote:
[image loading]


Thought about this earlier, glad you made it.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6875
On August 12 2012 09:21 Vorenius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:20 Assirra wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:17 Liquid`Drone wrote:
jesus christ taeja is the best player in the world. and there has never been an equally strong candidate for that spot.

MVP during his reign of terror.

I still don't think anything beats going undefeated in an entire gsl AND winning back-to-back 4-0 finals...

Nestea's route during that undefeated season was pretty meh though, compared to some of Mvp's and even Seed's route.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46516 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6876
On August 12 2012 09:22 Kaal wrote:
[image loading]


It's sad, but apparently true.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6877
On August 12 2012 09:22 starception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:15 Str1keFreedom wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:14 ELA wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 zefreak wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 starception wrote:
5-3... TL too good of a team for LG-IM to handle, especially without Mvp.


TL too good of a team? Taeja is the only won who does anything for them.


And what has IM done? According to you, they just have to get their 10 players to just snipe 1 person - And they have 4 weeks to prepare for it and fails to do it.


IDK how this disproves what I said. This proves exactly what I said. Which is that the entire tourney is Taeja vs IM. I never said IM is doing better. All i said is how can you call the entire TL team is better than team IM when it is just Taeja vs IM. All you did was repeat what i said.


Because Taeja has the best mechanics out of anyone in SC2 and TL is the best team because they helped Taeja prepare to snipe each LG-IM player. Taeja would still be a typical Terran if he was still in SlayerS because SlayerS Terrans are notoriously bad at TvP. Here in TL, he had LiquidHero to practice against. In SlayerS, Puzzle and Alicia aren't that good versus Terran so he didn't realize his potential yet.

Taeja was ridiculously good at TvP when he was in SlayerS, dude. If you'd ever watched him when he made his debut in the ESV Weekly, then you'd know that.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6878
On August 12 2012 09:22 starception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:15 Str1keFreedom wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:14 ELA wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 zefreak wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 starception wrote:
5-3... TL too good of a team for LG-IM to handle, especially without Mvp.


TL too good of a team? Taeja is the only won who does anything for them.


And what has IM done? According to you, they just have to get their 10 players to just snipe 1 person - And they have 4 weeks to prepare for it and fails to do it.


IDK how this disproves what I said. This proves exactly what I said. Which is that the entire tourney is Taeja vs IM. I never said IM is doing better. All i said is how can you call the entire TL team is better than team IM when it is just Taeja vs IM. All you did was repeat what i said.


Because Taeja has the best mechanics out of anyone in SC2 and TL is the best team because they helped Taeja prepare to snipe each LG-IM player. Taeja would still be a typical Terran if he was still in SlayerS because SlayerS Terrans are notoriously bad at TvP. Here in TL, he had LiquidHero to practice against. In SlayerS, Puzzle and Alicia aren't that good versus Terran so he didn't realize his potential yet.

Haha that was a pretty good troll post man, almost bit but not quite
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6879
On August 12 2012 09:22 starception wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2012 09:15 Str1keFreedom wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:14 ELA wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 zefreak wrote:
On August 12 2012 09:12 starception wrote:
5-3... TL too good of a team for LG-IM to handle, especially without Mvp.


TL too good of a team? Taeja is the only won who does anything for them.


And what has IM done? According to you, they just have to get their 10 players to just snipe 1 person - And they have 4 weeks to prepare for it and fails to do it.


IDK how this disproves what I said. This proves exactly what I said. Which is that the entire tourney is Taeja vs IM. I never said IM is doing better. All i said is how can you call the entire TL team is better than team IM when it is just Taeja vs IM. All you did was repeat what i said.


Because Taeja has the best mechanics out of anyone in SC2 and TL is the best team because they helped Taeja prepare to snipe each LG-IM player. Taeja would still be a typical Terran if he was still in SlayerS because SlayerS Terrans are notoriously bad at TvP. Here in TL, he had LiquidHero to practice against. In SlayerS, Puzzle and Alicia aren't that good versus Terran so he didn't realize his potential yet.


You are so wrong, Liquid just got lucky by picking Taeja up during his up-tick, before foreigners had noticed him.
www.gosu-sc.com - Starcraft News, Strategy and Merchandise
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
August 12 2012 00:23 GMT
#6880
why yonghwa?
Send in Happy or Seed. Smh..
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