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Kodak
United States157 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:11 GTPGlitch wrote: I feel like TDA was a choice that just got the ridiculously good muta map out of the way so that he wouldn't have to choose it if it ever got to 3-3 That's actually an incredibly good point. Would be nice to see if somebody would ask him about the pick in an interview. | ||
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Inviteme
United States165 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:11 Kodak wrote: I never said DRG didn't deserve to win, just that it's not a fair assessment of DRG's skill level as, on a purely objective level, the map/unit comp is incredibly zerg favored. Calm down. Yeah 396 - 401 (zerg being 396, toss being 401) looks extremely zerg favored. 36-38 (z 36, P 38 on korea stats). | ||
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:12 Kodak wrote: That's actually an incredibly good point. Would be nice to see if somebody would ask him about the pick in an interview. How does this make any sense? A loss at 3-1 is just as important as a loss at 3-3 | ||
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Kodak
United States157 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:12 blade55555 wrote: Yeah 396 - 401 (zerg being 396, toss being 401) looks extremely zerg favored. 36-38 (z 36, P 38 on korea stats). Yeah let's take stats from the beginning of time and use them to prove a point on the current meta. You got it. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:13 the`postman wrote: How does this make any sense? A loss at 3-1 is just as important as a loss at 3-3 That's not true. If you are leading 3-1 you might decide to do a cheese build that you would never do if the game was tied 3-3. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:13 the`postman wrote: How does this make any sense? A loss at 3-1 is just as important as a loss at 3-3 So you'd rather play an ace match on a map that is notoriously good for ZvP mutaling than like, ohana? | ||
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Sutekhy
43 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:12 emjaytron wrote: warp prism sentry abuse now i'm calling it. if zerg can have imba shit happen on TDA, toss can on this map Yeah, that's not imba at all. It just takes the zerg always assuming that a warpgate will be in play on metropolis. Which is what basically everyone does. | ||
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Kodak
United States157 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:13 the`postman wrote: How does this make any sense? A loss at 3-1 is just as important as a loss at 3-3 Technically, you're right. But from a morale perspective, if you were to get down to 3-3 and had to play the last game on a tough map (argue this all you want, but PvDRG on TDA is pretty rough) I think it would be pretty disheartening. | ||
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snowfox330
Canada61 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:14 Kodak wrote: Yeah let's take stats from the beginning of time and use them to prove a point on the current meta. You got it. My bad, going from march 1st (2012) to today its 65 - 75 (zerg 65, toss 75). My bad even more zerg favored. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11105 Posts
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the`postman
United States1643 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:14 blade55555 wrote: That's not true. If you are leading 3-1 you might decide to do a cheese build that you would never do if the game was tied 3-3. I don't see how that's relevant, if Hero picks his favorite map and wins at 3-1 it's exactly the same as if he picks his favorite map at 3-3 and wins. | ||
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honed
Canada482 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:15 blade55555 wrote: My bad, going from march 1st (2012) to today its 65 - 75 (zerg 65, toss 75). My bad even more zerg favored. LOL | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:16 the`postman wrote: I don't see how that's relevant, if Hero picks his favorite map and wins at 3-1 it's exactly the same as if he picks his favorite map at 3-3 and wins. Well moral perspective, it's still different. If you are up 3-1 you are confident you are going to win, if it goes from you being 3-0 to tied 3-3 you are going to be tilted, make more mistakes (well most players) and morally you are going to be crushed. So he might make mistakes he doesn't normally and lose, he will be less likely to take risks as well. | ||
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Kodak
United States157 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:15 blade55555 wrote: My bad, going from march 1st (2012) to today its 65 - 75 (zerg 65, toss 75). My bad even more zerg favored. Fair enough. Just seems that DRG has always been extremely confident on TDA, and is notorious for 6pooling into mutaling. So even if the average Z might be even vs P on TDA, the strong mutaling players are often favored on the map. It's not even arguable, just look at the map and it's obvious why that composition is so strong. | ||
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xNebulous
United States142 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:15 blade55555 wrote: My bad, going from march 1st (2012) to today its 65 - 75 (zerg 65, toss 75). My bad even more zerg favored. owned haha | ||
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Kodak
United States157 Posts
Quality contribution. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On July 08 2012 14:17 Kodak wrote: Fair enough. Just seems that DRG has always been extremely confident on TDA, and is notorious for 6pooling into mutaling. So even if the average Z might be even vs P on TDA, the strong mutaling players are often favored on the map. It's not even arguable, just look at the map and it's obvious why that composition is so strong. Oh I know it's strong (drg isn't the only zerg to early pool most zergs do on the map). I know muta/ling is really strong on that map I can't remember a time (in recent times) where a zerg plays taldarim and doesn't go mutalisks just because it is incredibly powerful on the map. | ||
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