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On June 17 2012 01:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:50 Enki wrote:
Stephano vs Tails next on main stream, finally a series worth watching. It's not the good tails. It's random Swedish Terran Tails.
Well, nevermind then lol. Whats with these random foreigners having the same name as a korean pro...
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On June 17 2012 01:51 Severian wrote:
Watching Mana vs Clockwise right now. Did I pick a bad game to start watching this tournament, or have they all been this embarrassing?
Ya pretty much. The first bit of this tourney is full of scrubs so it will be awhile before good games are played.
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On June 17 2012 01:52 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. I can't believe someone actually likes the MLG format more than Dreamhack's.
Last year's Dreamhack format from Dreamhack Winter was perfect.
This years is the worst format currently in use in any professional tournament.
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This format is horrendous
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On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..)
and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games.
The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament.
Dude, MLG is not an Open tournament.
Besides, I like the DreamHack format as it rewards skill and not past achievements/already having a big name. If the pros deserve to advance they will win the first few rounds anyways.
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On June 17 2012 01:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:51 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. you can always just watch the tourney from the later stages So apparently the solution to the terrible things tournaments do question is to not complain and make suggestions (which is why MLG is so much better this year than last, why NASL isn't broadcasting 3 month old games and why GSL isn't best of 1 with a virtually locked group of Code S players) it's to not watch at all. Great suggestion mate, the scene with go far with you at the helm.
If you don't like it then don't watch or watch at the later stages when only the top players are playing. Is it so hard for you to understand?
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On June 17 2012 01:54 Enki wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:51 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:50 Enki wrote:
Stephano vs Tails next on main stream, finally a series worth watching. It's not the good tails. It's random Swedish Terran Tails. Well, nevermind then lol. Whats with these random foreigners having the same name as a korean pro...
This Tails is from Sweden lol.
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On June 17 2012 01:56 Blueblister wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..)
and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games.
The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. Dude, MLG is not an Open tournament. Besides, I like the DreamHack format as it rewards skill and not past achievements/already having a big name.
MLG has an open tournament.
It doesn't waste an entire day or the tournament making Stephano play gold league players on stream.
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On June 17 2012 01:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:52 Champloo wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. I can't believe someone actually likes the MLG format more than Dreamhack's. This years is the worst format currently in use in any professional tournament.
No, it's not. Giving certain players an unfair advantage over other players is something no tournament should do. Open bracket, meaningless poolplay, double elimination and extended series is the worst format currently in use.
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On June 17 2012 01:56 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:51 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. you can always just watch the tourney from the later stages So apparently the solution to the terrible things tournaments do question is to not complain and make suggestions (which is why MLG is so much better this year than last, why NASL isn't broadcasting 3 month old games and why GSL isn't best of 1 with a virtually locked group of Code S players) it's to not watch at all. Great suggestion mate, the scene with go far with you at the helm. If you don't like it then don't watch or watch at the later stages when only the top players are playing. Is it so hard for you to understand?
I get it, you're Swedish. Therefore Dreamhack can do no wrong. But clearly if you take off your blue and yellow hat for just a second you can see that it's retarded to make professional players play total scrubs who have zero chance at all to win the series for AN ENTIRE DAY of the tournament.
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United States15275 Posts
Remember, these dudes knew what they were getting into.
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On June 17 2012 01:57 Champloo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:52 Champloo wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. I can't believe someone actually likes the MLG format more than Dreamhack's. This years is the worst format currently in use in any professional tournament. No, it's not. Giving certain players an unfair advantage over other players is something no tournament should do. Open bracket, meaningless poolplay, double elimination and extended series is the worst format currently in use.
Okay dude, have fun watching Stephano rape this kid.
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On June 17 2012 01:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:51 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. you can always just watch the tourney from the later stages So apparently the solution to the terrible things tournaments do question is to not complain and make suggestions (which is why MLG is so much better this year than last, why NASL isn't broadcasting 3 month old games and why GSL isn't best of 1 with a virtually locked group of Code S players) it's to not watch at all. Great suggestion mate, the scene with go far with you at the helm.
Well i kinda like this setup, it's a opportunity to see some unknowns and everyone (pro's and amateurs) starts equal at the tournament. And over 30k viewers on 2 streams might proof that there are people who do want to watch stages like this, so why not?
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I predict Stephano going 2-0 with his 12 minute roach rush each game lol.
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I think its fun seeing what random people looks like when playing against pros. And I dont think the pros mind either.
Also, it can be a great way to find new talent.
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On June 17 2012 01:58 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:56 Integra wrote:On June 17 2012 01:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:51 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. you can always just watch the tourney from the later stages So apparently the solution to the terrible things tournaments do question is to not complain and make suggestions (which is why MLG is so much better this year than last, why NASL isn't broadcasting 3 month old games and why GSL isn't best of 1 with a virtually locked group of Code S players) it's to not watch at all. Great suggestion mate, the scene with go far with you at the helm. If you don't like it then don't watch or watch at the later stages when only the top players are playing. Is it so hard for you to understand? I get it, you're Swedish. Therefore Dreamhack can do no wrong. But clearly if you take off your blue and yellow hat for just a second you can see that it's retarded to make professional players play total scrubs who have zero chance at all to win the series for AN ENTIRE DAY of the tournament.
I take offense at that! I like my yellow and blue hat...
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On June 17 2012 01:59 TheSir wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2012 01:53 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:51 mememolly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:46 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:44 Sp00ly wrote:On June 17 2012 01:42 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:On June 17 2012 01:38 manloveman wrote:On June 17 2012 01:34 Elios wrote:On June 17 2012 01:32 0kz wrote:
seems there isn't much interest for day1 DH? thread is really small :o yeah but i like it ... cause the local "noob" players get to play ... and i think thats important ^_^.. Completely agree. Thats is an important link between the playerbase and the pro's. It might not be interesting to watch some some john doe get blown up by a pro, but it is important. No it's not at all. Guys like Slivko, Bly and other lesser known players getting a chance is important. Random diamond league scrub has no place whatsoever playing at Dreamhack. Dude how can you say that? Do you even know what an open tournament means? An open tournament should work like MLG where the professionals are seeded (based on previous results in qualifiers etc..) and the diamond league players play off camera for a chance to play with the professionals later on if they win enough games. The Dreamhack format is stupid, which is even more funny as they had it right last year when they did seed to pro's and let the randoms play their own tournament with the top two (Osho and Sarens in this case) getting a spot in the main tournament. you can always just watch the tourney from the later stages So apparently the solution to the terrible things tournaments do question is to not complain and make suggestions (which is why MLG is so much better this year than last, why NASL isn't broadcasting 3 month old games and why GSL isn't best of 1 with a virtually locked group of Code S players) it's to not watch at all. Great suggestion mate, the scene with go far with you at the helm. Well i kinda like this setup, it's a opportunity to see some unknowns and everyone (pro's and amateurs) starts equal at the tournament. And over 30k viewers on 2 streams might proof that there are people who do want to watch stages like this, so why not?
Unknowns is fine. It's how we got all sorts of players who are now mainstays in the scene like Stephano himself.
But if you're not high masters you should not be in the main tournament playing on stream.
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This format also gives a chance for any breakout players to shine, if they are good enough..
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United States5162 Posts
Wow Stephano doesn't even break a sweat.
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Lol that was quick games for Stephano gogogo!
EDIT: voidrays? Better go roaches lol lol lol.
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