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On June 16 2012 14:51 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. or two, or three. Just me, or is this debate completely meaningless?
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Canada13386 Posts
Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot
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Wolf is so much better with Artosis than Tasteless. He adds to the actual substance of discussion, clearly plays the game, and is confident enough to debate/predict with Artosis. You can also tell Artosis loves being able to discuss things with someone who can actually hold an educated conversation.
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so, you guys think terran will innovate to adapt to OP queens or Blizzard will change the Queens range back?
And laagggggyyyyyyy
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On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:
Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot
Yeah im lagging badly too.
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On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:
Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot
Same here.
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On June 16 2012 14:51 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_- in that case, i'd say mkp at his best is unbeatable. drg stream is pretty impressive A non-crippled MVP is unbeatable.
Kinda doubt MKP will ever beat MVP in a BoX.
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On June 16 2012 14:51 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_- in that case, i'd say mkp at his best is unbeatable. drg stream is pretty impressive
DRG stream is one of the best. And even though mkp is one of my favorite Terrans I would say Jjakji at his best is the truly unbeatable one.
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United States33203 Posts
Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta
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On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:
Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot
Yeah, mine keeps pausing on me automatically.
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On June 16 2012 14:53 Waxangel wrote: Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta The FD mentality back in GSL1?
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Canada13386 Posts
On June 16 2012 14:52 andaylin wrote: so, you guys think terran will innovate to adapt to OP queens or Blizzard will change the Queens range back?
Will probably dial something back. Apparently Zerg is way ahead in north america right now. In both its non mirrors :/
For Korea we see TvZ in favour of Z atm and PvZ is down to protoss doing an all in and winning because the Z doesnt react well enough.
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Mass queens, don't worry about anything at all. How thought out was that queen buff ><
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About streams, Polt is the most impressive to watch imo. His drop only play vs protoss is pretty awesome to spectate in 1st person.
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On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_- Ummm I've seen plenty of Squirtle play. Judging by what you say, he must not play his best very often. To be the best in the world, you have to win tournaments. Squirtle hasn't won anything yet. Results matter.
On June 16 2012 14:51 Soyuz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote: Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. Should just ask Stephano what he thinks. And IIRC he thinks Squirtle's better. But I don't think Stephano is the best player in the world, so it doesn't matter.
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On June 16 2012 14:53 Waxangel wrote: Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta Referring to the Terran right? Yeah, this is what you gotta do when Queens can block every kind of push you try.
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On June 16 2012 14:39 Saiwa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:28 Saiwa wrote: I need help, Gomplayer doesnt open the Video after i click the Free Stream. Just reinstalled it but nothing changes. No help ?
Search google for GOMstreamer.
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