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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#261
On June 16 2012 14:51 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.

I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think.


It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5.


On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.


You would know if you watched his FPVoDs

everyone looks really good in fpvods lol


Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play.

so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol


Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_>


On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.


So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay


His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%

and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.


or two, or three.


Just me, or is this debate completely meaningless?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13429 Posts
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#262

Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
PhoenixDark
Profile Joined March 2011
United States286 Posts
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#263
Wolf is so much better with Artosis than Tasteless. He adds to the actual substance of discussion, clearly plays the game, and is confident enough to debate/predict with Artosis. You can also tell Artosis loves being able to discuss things with someone who can actually hold an educated conversation.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=435469
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#264
1 rax CC into CC.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-16 05:53:03
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#265
so, you guys think terran will innovate to adapt to OP queens or Blizzard will change the Queens range back?

And laagggggyyyyyyy
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 16 2012 05:52 GMT
#266
On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:

Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot


Yeah im lagging badly too.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#267
On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:

Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot


Same here.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#268
On June 16 2012 14:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.

I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think.


It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5.


On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.


You would know if you watched his FPVoDs

everyone looks really good in fpvods lol


Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play.

so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol


Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_>


On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.


So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay


His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%

and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.


I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_-

in that case, i'd say mkp at his best is unbeatable.

drg stream is pretty impressive

A non-crippled MVP is unbeatable.

Kinda doubt MKP will ever beat MVP in a BoX.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#269
On June 16 2012 14:51 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.

I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think.


It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5.


On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.


You would know if you watched his FPVoDs

everyone looks really good in fpvods lol


Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play.

so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol


Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_>


On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.


So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay


His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%

and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.


I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_-

in that case, i'd say mkp at his best is unbeatable.

drg stream is pretty impressive


DRG stream is one of the best. And even though mkp is one of my favorite Terrans I would say Jjakji at his best is the truly unbeatable one.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33710 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#270
Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Grobnik
Profile Joined January 2012
United States119 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#271
On June 16 2012 14:52 ZeromuS wrote:

Anybody getting lag? my hq stream is skipping a lot


Yeah, mine keeps pausing on me automatically.
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#272
whoa whoa greedy Sculp
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#273
yep laggy
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
June 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#274
On June 16 2012 14:53 Waxangel wrote:
Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta

The FD mentality back in GSL1?
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13429 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#275
On June 16 2012 14:52 andaylin wrote:
so, you guys think terran will innovate to adapt to OP queens or Blizzard will change the Queens range back?


Will probably dial something back. Apparently Zerg is way ahead in north america right now. In both its non mirrors :/

For Korea we see TvZ in favour of Z atm and PvZ is down to protoss doing an all in and winning because the Z doesnt react well enough.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#276
Mass queens, don't worry about anything at all. How thought out was that queen buff ><
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#277
About streams, Polt is the most impressive to watch imo. His drop only play vs protoss is pretty awesome to spectate in 1st person.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#278
On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.

I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think.


It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5.


On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.


You would know if you watched his FPVoDs

everyone looks really good in fpvods lol


Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play.

so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol


Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_>


On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.


So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay


His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%

and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.


I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_-

Ummm I've seen plenty of Squirtle play. Judging by what you say, he must not play his best very often. To be the best in the world, you have to win tournaments. Squirtle hasn't won anything yet. Results matter.


On June 16 2012 14:51 Soyuz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.

I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think.


It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5.


On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.


You would know if you watched his FPVoDs

everyone looks really good in fpvods lol


Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play.

so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol


Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_>


On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:
On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. ><

in what way is he even close to the best player lol.

He's very close.

best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano.


Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea.


So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay


His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%

and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.


Should just ask Stephano what he thinks. And IIRC he thinks Squirtle's better.

But I don't think Stephano is the best player in the world, so it doesn't matter.
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andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#279
On June 16 2012 14:53 Waxangel wrote:
Looks like it's the new "greed into I hope he doesn't punish me oh god" meta

Referring to the Terran right? Yeah, this is what you gotta do when Queens can block every kind of push you try.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
rutian
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkey288 Posts
June 16 2012 05:54 GMT
#280
On June 16 2012 14:39 Saiwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 14:28 Saiwa wrote:
I need help, Gomplayer doesnt open the Video after i click the Free Stream.
Just reinstalled it but nothing changes.


No help ?


Search google for GOMstreamer.
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