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On June 16 2012 14:47 julianto wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:45 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:44 Thrillz wrote:
It's pretty much paradigm that you are not the best player in the world until you have won a GSL. Simple as that. Actually, no. I agree, Clide is the best player in the world who just hasn't won anything yet because he's too sideburn to bother.
and keeps nuking and not rebuilding scvs because he thinks that's how you win games :s
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On June 16 2012 14:45 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:44 Thrillz wrote:
It's pretty much paradigm that you are not the best player in the world until you have won a GSL. Simple as that. Actually, no.
Whether or not it's reasonable, that's the current paradigm. "MKP best player in the world!" "Sorry no GSL win, so way too soon to say." In some ways I agree, it's ridiculous to say this is "best player in the world" week to week, watering it down.
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On June 16 2012 14:46 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:45 babylon wrote:On June 16 2012 14:44 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:43 babylon wrote:On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol The only thing that stunned me about MKP's FPVOD is his bad music taste. I had to turn it off after five minutes.  all korean streamers listen to kpop, move along now, nothing new here. Nonono, MKP's was especially horrid. I swear I heard Bieber on his stream before, amongst other nightmarish music. If it were just KPop, I could deal. If I couldn't, I wouldn't be watching any SC2.  they all sound the same to me.
One's just trashy white noise. The other's trashy noise, but you can understand it, which makes it harder to ignore and therefore much more horrible.
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I'm satisfied seeing that interviewer girl, even if my favorite team loses.
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On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100%
and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.
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Scup is on a timebomb, he might not last long, so let's do it right now, do it come on !
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On June 16 2012 14:49 glzElectromaster wrote:
oh god, TvZ on Daybreak.
Oh god, TvZ in general, lol.
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On June 16 2012 14:50 MrCon wrote:
Scup is on a timebomb, he might not last long, so let's do it right now, do it come on !
didn't you post this already?
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On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.
I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_-
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On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.
Should just ask Stephano what he thinks. And IIRC he thinks Squirtle's better.
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On June 16 2012 14:50 andaylin wrote:Oh god, TvZ in general, lol.
this, but kingkong is not thatttt notable haha. hoping for another terran win!
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On June 16 2012 14:50 andaylin wrote:Oh god, TvZ in general, lol.
I know, I'm excited too!
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On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.
or two, or three.
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On June 16 2012 14:51 Hall0wed wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first. I don't think you actually have watched those games or enough of Squirtle play, he played horribly and it was nowhere near his best. -_-
in that case, i'd say mkp at his best is unbeatable.
drg stream is pretty impressive
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On June 16 2012 14:49 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:47 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 AxionSteel wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. I think Stephano is just the best zerg in the world. Only Naniwa could beat him as Protoss I think. It never stops baffling me how people still can think this. No wins in a big tournament (IPL, MLG, GSL) for months while DRG wins GSL and MLGs. Stephano isn't even in my top 3 zergs, maybe not even top 5. On June 16 2012 14:41 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:40 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:36 opterown wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. You would know if you watched his FPVoDs everyone looks really good in fpvods lol Nono, I watch an endless amount of streams and Squirtle is the only player that ever made me just stunned by every little thing that went into his play. so not even like, mkp or polt or mvp or creator or stephano stun you? lol Nope. Maybe MVP with how good his offrace is and like there are some stunning moves by Polt and MKP, but Squirtle is just constantly jawdropping. Maybe I haven't caught him playing well but watching Stephano's stream just made me think less of him. >_> On June 16 2012 14:41 JJH777 wrote:On June 16 2012 14:38 Hall0wed wrote:On June 16 2012 14:35 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 polyphonyEX wrote:On June 16 2012 14:33 andaylin wrote:On June 16 2012 14:32 Hall0wed wrote:
Squirtle derps sometimes, so annoying to watch the best player derp so hard. >< in what way is he even close to the best player lol. He's very close. best player MAYBE in PvT. But one can't suck ass at a matchup to be a best player (PvZ). Couldn't even beat Stephano. Ok now I know you really don't know what you're talking about. Squirtle played like shit that whole weekend but he is known to have amazing PvZ. Stephano even said himself he never won a single game on ladder vs. Squirtle back when he was in Korea. So you should judge people based on ladder play rather than what they do in tournaments.... Okaaay His PvZ in most tournaments has been just as good. -_- And if you watched the ladder games between them you would know that both were giving 100% and both were giving 100% when Stephano smashed him at Red Bull. Sorry, but Squirtle is not the best player in the world. He has to win a tournament first.
He's a favorite to win this season's GSL, this one is.
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On June 16 2012 14:51 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 16 2012 14:50 MrCon wrote:
Scup is on a timebomb, he might not last long, so let's do it right now, do it come on ! didn't you post this already?
This is my cheer chant for Sculp :D
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