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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 03 2012 23:36 GMT
#41
With this lightening and suits, Bitterdam look like sexy man models.
I had a good night of sleep.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
June 03 2012 23:37 GMT
#42
On June 04 2012 08:34 niteReloaded wrote:
Stephano is the best ZvPer outside of Korea, and undoubtedly one of the best overall. He goes for the same build in ZvP and has great success. Tell me why don't players like Seth and Idra simply copy his build? It seems really strong.


Stephano wins because of crazy good game sense. If the only reason he won is because he had good builds, all zergs would do it.
cablesc
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1540 Posts
June 03 2012 23:38 GMT
#43
On June 04 2012 08:06 Gojira621 wrote:
really? I kind of dug the old format where top 2 got a playoff spot guaranteed and then the 4 below them battled for a seed. Worked out pretty well but if they feel like they have something better than I'm all for it. Should be some good games tonight!!


He's talking about the Open Bracket. The top 2 from each group still goes to the finals. But the open bracket winners go to the wildcard round where they play against the middle finishers in group play. I like that format better. Don't let an open bracket winner win one weekend online qualifier to bypass everyone who played 9 weeks of group play.
Slayers Forever! Rip. :( - Not the eSports organizer, that's CableStarcraft.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
June 03 2012 23:39 GMT
#44
On June 04 2012 08:37 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 08:34 niteReloaded wrote:
Stephano is the best ZvPer outside of Korea, and undoubtedly one of the best overall. He goes for the same build in ZvP and has great success. Tell me why don't players like Seth and Idra simply copy his build? It seems really strong.


Stephano wins because of crazy good game sense. If the only reason he won is because he had good builds, all zergs would do it.

Indeed, he has it all basically. His game sense is impeccable, his macro is superb and he actually micros his units, which zergs don't do nearly enough.
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
June 03 2012 23:41 GMT
#45
On June 04 2012 08:34 niteReloaded wrote:
Stephano is the best ZvPer outside of Korea, and undoubtedly one of the best overall. He goes for the same build in ZvP and has great success. Tell me why don't players like Seth and Idra simply copy his build? It seems really strong.

stephano does the same 'build' every game, which is basically an opening from which he reacts very well to the various protoss openings. Stephano is the best because he reads and reacts the best, the challenge of zvp is that if you don't react perfectly to any 2base play you die immediately, and if you overreact to anything you end up maxed on roaches without having a chance to tech to broods.
Hostileeeeee
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom42 Posts
June 03 2012 23:42 GMT
#46
On June 04 2012 08:35 Aerisky wrote:
I'm no good with SC metagame/theory, but maybe it's because their macro simply isn't as good? Foreigners besides Stephano do use his general strategy/build on occasion though, just not as much as he does.

It's not hard to max out on Roaches at 12-13 minutes if you aren't pressured much. MC took a risk taking a third off 1 Stargate and 3 Gateways and Sheth just let him take it and hit that Colossus timing that he loves so much. Couple that with really late Broods and over-droning and you just have bad decision-making from Sheth.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
June 03 2012 23:43 GMT
#47
On June 04 2012 08:39 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 08:37 NipponBanzai wrote:
On June 04 2012 08:34 niteReloaded wrote:
Stephano is the best ZvPer outside of Korea, and undoubtedly one of the best overall. He goes for the same build in ZvP and has great success. Tell me why don't players like Seth and Idra simply copy his build? It seems really strong.


Stephano wins because of crazy good game sense. If the only reason he won is because he had good builds, all zergs would do it.

Indeed, he has it all basically. His game sense is impeccable, his macro is superb and he actually micros his units, which zergs don't do nearly enough.

I hear ya, but I still think his build is superior to most builds Zergs seem to use. I don't watch SC2 nearly enough to speak anything more than my own opinion, but this build seems really robust and seems to give the zerg control and the ability to dictate the game.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 23:46:48
June 03 2012 23:46 GMT
#48
Ah I see :/ and well yeah obviously it was mostly Sheth's suboptimal play/lack of pressure that lost him that game ><

Wow, MC is playing sort of weird, lost a ton of stuff early game for almost no reason :< that random sentry attack was okay I guess? Lost soooo much gas but brought the drone count down quite a bit.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
NipponBanzai
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada518 Posts
June 03 2012 23:48 GMT
#49
On June 04 2012 08:46 Aerisky wrote:
Ah I see :/ and well yeah obviously it was mostly Sheth's suboptimal play/lack of pressure that lost him that game ><

Wow, MC is playing sort of weird, lost a ton of stuff early game for almost no reason :< that random sentry attack was okay I guess? Lost soooo much gas but brought the drone count down quite a bit.


I think he also forced sheth to cancel his third.
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
June 03 2012 23:49 GMT
#50
On June 03 2012 12:17 ZeroSC2 wrote:
wow Polt not looking good this season, hope he still has a chance, if 3rd places get a shot to advance in an additional round.

Sheth 0-2 MC

Puzzle 2-0 TargA

Polt 2-0 WhiteRa

qxc 1-2 JinRo (the players that improved the least since 2010)


I agree with this completely.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 03 2012 23:50 GMT
#51
6 sentries + 1 zealot destroying an entire mineral line because sheth was 3hours supply blocked costed him the game.
If he had 12 lings and his drones he would have crushed that but with only drones... Not so much.
I had a good night of sleep.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 23:52:23
June 03 2012 23:51 GMT
#52
On June 04 2012 08:48 NipponBanzai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 08:46 Aerisky wrote:
Ah I see :/ and well yeah obviously it was mostly Sheth's suboptimal play/lack of pressure that lost him that game ><

Wow, MC is playing sort of weird, lost a ton of stuff early game for almost no reason :< that random sentry attack was okay I guess? Lost soooo much gas but brought the drone count down quite a bit.


I think he also forced sheth to cancel his third.

Oh not bad :>

BOOM MC just blinks into Sheth's main!! :D Ripping this up~ Looks like GG

MC 2-0's Sheth sort of....easily lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 23:53:00
June 03 2012 23:52 GMT
#53
On June 04 2012 08:50 Koshi wrote:
6 sentries + 1 zealot destroying an entire mineral line because sheth was 3hours supply blocked costed him the game.
If he had 12 lings and his drones he would have crushed that but with only drones... Not so much.

Well rather if he had not played risky and brought his zlings back rather than trying to force the nexus cancel. That were like 8-10 lings up there(or I'm reading anyway, if he had made fewer drones, if you meant, if he had those lings then nvm ).
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
June 03 2012 23:52 GMT
#54
i fucking love this casting duo
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
June 03 2012 23:53 GMT
#55
On June 04 2012 08:21 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2012 08:07 BathTubNZ wrote:
Aww no White-Ra vs Polt.

But Idra vs Ret!


What do you mean ?
There's a walk over again ? :o


No, they said White-Ra was unable to log into the NA server and since both players were there and waiting the match was postponed.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 03 2012 23:53 GMT
#56
when's the idra match
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
June 03 2012 23:53 GMT
#57
bitter has such a corrosive vehement style, so aggressive and so analytic. and rotterdam is so like, just goes with it. he really compliments bitter well
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Failsafe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States1298 Posts
June 03 2012 23:54 GMT
#58
also what happens to non-korean players in korea? i thought they were supposed to start dominating because of their exposure to the korean culture, but jinro is 0-6 and qxc is 1-5. what's the story there
MrBitter: Phoenixes... They're like flying hellions. Always cost efficient.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
June 03 2012 23:55 GMT
#59
I wouldn't describe bitter as corrosive or vehement...or aggressive for that matter. They do complement each other well but that description of bitter is far from a compliment lol
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
BathTubNZ
Profile Joined December 2011
New Zealand2556 Posts
June 03 2012 23:57 GMT
#60
On June 04 2012 08:53 nkr wrote:
when's the idra match


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