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FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
May 27 2012 21:02 GMT
#1741
Nice random shot of nothing at all :D
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 27 2012 21:02 GMT
#1742
This might sound weird, but extra Defensive PF's at your natural and outer expansions are really important to have if you're going to be pushing past the center.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
May 27 2012 21:02 GMT
#1743
On May 28 2012 06:01 FatBat wrote:
taeja floatin 3k minerals


he has no gas and plays mech. building 30 hellions isnt particularly helpful atm...
DiaBoLuS ** Sc2 - Protoss: 16x GM | Dota2 - Offlane Immortal | Wc3 - Undead decent level | Diablo nerd | Chess / Magnus fanboy | BVB | Agnostic***
zezamer
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland5701 Posts
May 27 2012 21:02 GMT
#1744
On May 28 2012 06:01 FatBat wrote:
taeja floatin 3k minerals


Mech usually can't spend all minerals
M[o]
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada135 Posts
May 27 2012 21:02 GMT
#1745
On May 28 2012 06:02 FrogOfWar wrote:
Nice random shot of nothing at all :D

trying to be like proleague with the dramatic shots of ... booths
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1746
Taeja needs banshees and marines!
Support your esport!
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1747
Extremly sloppy macro by TaeJa :<
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1748
On May 28 2012 06:00 brokenLoL wrote:
Taeja already won.


Bomber has been expanding behind this pressure, his army movement has been insanely good all game, he now has a lead, and will be able to start a BC transition if he can't end this with just marauder tank.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1749
yes, bomber! abusing the inmobility of taeja's army!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1750
Great mobility by Bomber.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1751
On May 28 2012 06:03 Split. wrote:
Extremly sloppy macro by TaeJa :<


sigh...
#1 Grubby Fan.
Braric
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada184 Posts
May 27 2012 21:03 GMT
#1752
On May 28 2012 06:00 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:58 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:57 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:56 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:55 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:49 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:37 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:34 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
[quote]

Why are these jokers allowed on TL?

MC's won endless major LAN's.

Sase has never won a major LAN. Sase has never even been in the semi final of a premier LAN.

MC has won more than 20x more money than Sase has. MC is an infinitely better player.


Yeah sure MC is more accomplished, but so are players like HongUn and Inca. I'm not saying he's bad by any means but he is definitely overrated. All of those major lans and tournaments he won was by executing 2 base timings supported by mind gaming and metagaming, theres a reason he was labeled the suicide toss in BW.


Winning is winning.

Just like MC just won against Sase.

Sase is the most overrated player in the entire scene. The guy has no results on LAN.


I bet your the guy on the ladder who justifies 4 gating and 6 pooling every game because "winning is winning", honestly if you want to be considered the best of the best then your going to have to do more then 2 base shenanigans consistently. If you want to put MC on the same pedestal as players such as Nestea, MKP, MVP, DRG and etc then he's going to have to do more then just timing attacks.

It always baffles me that people would prefer to watch less skill and endurance over the longevity and talent we often saw in BW, thankfully a a resurgence is slowly occurring and cheeses/gimmicks are slowly being weeded out.

MC's macro games are fearsome as well. Do people really still think that a player who only 2 bases would still be relevant in the scene?


I cant deny he has a really good macro PvZ but his longevity in terms of PvP and PvT are pretty sickening given he loses almost any time he plays a standard game, a lot of his PvZ success is attributed to his amazing micro though which is one of the most important aspects against zerg imo. When you contrast him against other guys such as Genius, Parting, Squirtle, YongHwa, Seed, Oz, (the list goes on) he fails in comparison.


Yeah man, YongHwa and Seed are so much better than MC.


dude I hate to be a hipster nerd but you need to watch some non mainstream games, those two guys are actually really talented, theres a reason why IMMVP has been owning Protoss left and right ;p


Okay guys, we've found the most clueless poster on TL.

Dragonborn and Benjamin89 need to up their game.


well seed and yonghwa are good, not better than MC though.


Watch team league games and you'll see that YongHwa has been put out as an ace in many scenarios against Code S terran such as Byun, Maru, Bomber, etc. Honestly though its my personal opinion, just because I disagree with you doesn't make me retarded, in fact a lot of big names such as Artosis and Nony agree with what I'm saying (as far as what they've said publicly).
"Hoodor" -Hodor
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
May 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#1753
On May 28 2012 06:03 Split. wrote:
Extremly sloppy macro by TaeJa :<


you noob

User was warned for this post
IM THE SHIT BITCH
gakkgakk
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Norway902 Posts
May 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#1754
Bomber is pretty sick vs mech.
A timing is a build done by a player you like. An allin is a build done by one you dont. -sOda~
polyphonyEX
Profile Joined May 2012
United States2539 Posts
May 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#1755
predicting stephano vs squirtle finals, stephano wins leaving squirtle with another 2nd place
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 27 2012 21:04 GMT
#1756
On May 28 2012 06:03 Split. wrote:
Extremly sloppy macro by TaeJa :<


No, his gas is low, that's what counts. He could make a couple more macro orbitals and defensive PFs but there's no way to efficiently spend his money on units as his hellion count is quite good.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 27 2012 21:05 GMT
#1757
On May 28 2012 06:03 Braric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 06:00 Dodgin wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:58 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:57 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:56 SeaSwift wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:55 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:51 Wombat_NI wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:49 Braric wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:43 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:37 Braric wrote:
[quote]

Yeah sure MC is more accomplished, but so are players like HongUn and Inca. I'm not saying he's bad by any means but he is definitely overrated. All of those major lans and tournaments he won was by executing 2 base timings supported by mind gaming and metagaming, theres a reason he was labeled the suicide toss in BW.


Winning is winning.

Just like MC just won against Sase.

Sase is the most overrated player in the entire scene. The guy has no results on LAN.


I bet your the guy on the ladder who justifies 4 gating and 6 pooling every game because "winning is winning", honestly if you want to be considered the best of the best then your going to have to do more then 2 base shenanigans consistently. If you want to put MC on the same pedestal as players such as Nestea, MKP, MVP, DRG and etc then he's going to have to do more then just timing attacks.

It always baffles me that people would prefer to watch less skill and endurance over the longevity and talent we often saw in BW, thankfully a a resurgence is slowly occurring and cheeses/gimmicks are slowly being weeded out.

MC's macro games are fearsome as well. Do people really still think that a player who only 2 bases would still be relevant in the scene?


I cant deny he has a really good macro PvZ but his longevity in terms of PvP and PvT are pretty sickening given he loses almost any time he plays a standard game, a lot of his PvZ success is attributed to his amazing micro though which is one of the most important aspects against zerg imo. When you contrast him against other guys such as Genius, Parting, Squirtle, YongHwa, Seed, Oz, (the list goes on) he fails in comparison.


Yeah man, YongHwa and Seed are so much better than MC.


dude I hate to be a hipster nerd but you need to watch some non mainstream games, those two guys are actually really talented, theres a reason why IMMVP has been owning Protoss left and right ;p


Okay guys, we've found the most clueless poster on TL.

Dragonborn and Benjamin89 need to up their game.


well seed and yonghwa are good, not better than MC though.


Watch team league games and you'll see that YongHwa has been put out as an ace in many scenarios against Code S terran such as Byun, Maru, Bomber, etc. Honestly though its my personal opinion, just because I disagree with you doesn't make me retarded, in fact a lot of big names such as Artosis and Nony agree with what I'm saying (as far as what they've said publicly).

lol. Nony said MC was the best protoss after he won IEM. i think he changed to squirtle but even so the point still stands.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 27 2012 21:05 GMT
#1758
no cancel on the pf, every mineral counts now!
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 21:05 GMT
#1759
Only 27 SCVs for Taeja, ouch.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 21:05 GMT
#1760
I'm afraid to turn the stream back on. Whenever I do, Bomber starts falling apart. ;;
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