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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
May 27 2012 20:10 GMT
#1301
Is it just me or are most of the Fast Facts negative?
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 27 2012 20:10 GMT
#1302
On May 28 2012 05:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:09 Dodgin wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:
[quote]

They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan.


Making units as Zerg is all in.

Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in

So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in.

lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever

So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL


There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category.

Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.

Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.


he's not going to code S next season.

... He turned down the invite? :O


a recent interview revealed he's only going for one month and it's in august, not nearly in time for the start of the gsl season. he wants to attend mlg's and stuff instead of try gsl in june.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 20:12:16
May 27 2012 20:10 GMT
#1303
A little sloppiness on both parts in game 2, but lots of fireworks.

imokaywiththis.jpg

Hmm, I feel like Husky's livecasting is better than his youtube vods. Or he just starting casting better-er again.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
SealOverseer
Profile Joined May 2012
Netherlands159 Posts
May 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#1304
On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:47 brokenLoL wrote:
All Stephano knows how to do is 3 base roach all in. Why are Zergs complaining about the immortal PUSH/SLIGHT PRESSURE when all they do is ALL IN?


They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan.


Making units as Zerg is all in.

Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in

So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in.

lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever

So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL


There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category.

Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.

Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.



Am I the only one on the planet to have read Stephano's latest interview?


He's not joining this season's codeS.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
May 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#1305
On May 28 2012 05:09 ceaRshaf wrote:
I think I would prefer to see Sase vs Stephano than MC vs Stephano because MC is easy to be figured out. Just hold the all ins. His last weeks record vs zergs is not good either.

But SaSe's PvZ is atrocious. .____.
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
May 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#1306
The audience seems kinda lame, no?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
shabby
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway6402 Posts
May 27 2012 20:11 GMT
#1307
Must be awkward to have an interview while everyone is quiet watching the PvP. I guess the lighting on the stage makes sure Squirtle can't see the crowd anyway.
Jaedong, Gumibear, Leenock, Byun
Taug
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1308
I dont really like Naniwa but at least he has the balls to compete
The Golden Rule
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1309
Interview going on, crowd looking at (presumably) the other game going on.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1310
On May 28 2012 05:10 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:09 Dodgin wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:
[quote]

Making units as Zerg is all in.

Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in

So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in.

lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever

So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL


There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category.

Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.

Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.


he's not going to code S next season.

... He turned down the invite? :O


a recent interview revealed he's only going for one month and it's in august, not nearly in time for the start of the gsl season. he wants to attend mlg's and stuff instead of try gsl in june.


Scared from GSL Code S champions?
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1311
Dat mindgames wooow.
fraktoasters
Profile Joined January 2011
United States617 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1312
On May 28 2012 05:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:09 Dodgin wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:08 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:05 iamthedave wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:02 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:59 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:58 nojok wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:56 Whatson wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:54 fraktoasters wrote:
On May 28 2012 04:51 a3den wrote:
[quote]

They're not all-in, they're trades until he gets a forth (you easily can while you pressure). Those trades allows him to delay the deathball (focus firing sentries, etc...) and get infestors. It's a part of a game plan.


Making units as Zerg is all in.

Attacking a Zerg before he gets 70 drones and 3 bases is an all-in

So zergs are mannered enough to reach this asap so toss don't have to all in.

lol i was talking more about terran, but whatever

So I'm doing 20 all ins a game in my TvZ, therefore it's not all in. Happily it does not matter because I've never won a GSL so I'm just a bad foreigner like Stephano. That's the good part of the foreigner hate, we are all as good ( or bad if you prefer) because none of us have won a GSL


There's a difference between 'not winning' a GSL and 'having not even competed for' a GSL. Stephano is currently in the latter category.

Everyone thought Naniwa was god's gift to foreigners until he went to compete in GSL and repeatedly failed. Stephano is basically Naniwa 2.0, but he doesn't care about GSL so it's all theorycrafting on that end.

Based on what exactly? Because he can pad his wallet and rep by hitting a shitton of foreign events while avoiding the best league on the planet? He's going to Code S next season, so you can't say he "doesn't care"... It's time for him (and his fans) to put up or shut up.


he's not going to code S next season.

... He turned down the invite? :O


He's going next next season?
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1313
On May 28 2012 05:12 Taug wrote:
I dont really like Naniwa but at least he has the balls to compete


Stephano wants money.

Naniwa wants glory.

It's easy why they do what they do/
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1314
sase cancels stargate...now mc stargate...lol
s3rp
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany3192 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-27 20:15:36
May 27 2012 20:12 GMT
#1315
On May 28 2012 05:05 nojok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2012 05:02 s3rp wrote:
On May 28 2012 05:01 Clafou wrote:
Ok... I'm Protoss... But thins archon toilet is getting ridiculous. My 2 cents.


Broodlord Infestors combination is as well so no problem here. Wish Terran had a way to beat an army like that though -.-

It's hard but far from impossible with drops, nice spread, EMPs, viking movement etc. I would say it's as hard for terran to fight this than it is for zerg to reach this, so it's fair.


You cannot fight that army head-on ever as Terran if he ever reaches it and on some Maps its imbalanced because its hard to circumvent a fight. BTW EMP is pretty bad against Infestors thatswhy Ghosts are rarely used in TvZ . You hit 2 at best 3 and have to suicide the Ghost to get it off .
openbox1
Profile Joined March 2011
1393 Posts
May 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#1316
On May 28 2012 05:03 xrapture wrote:
Before all you Stephano fanboys get too overboard, just know Stephano's winrate vs Koreans is still sub 50% and the only "omfg he just beat Code S player!!!!" happens when he plays a zvp and does the same all in every game



I don't think Stephano is really capable of winning a GSL Code S tourney and I love it when Polt beats his ass, but how the heck do you get the idea that a 3 base roach max is an all-in? That's like saying a terran going two base to fast medivac is an all-in against zerg. 3 base roach max is a decent strategy that can work against Toss and you can transition out to spire, infestor, hive et all from that as long as you don't throw away all your roaches for nothing.

Geez. Everything is an all-in. If these idiots had their way, every game would be a 45 minute macro stay at your base till max.

Also, despite him losing to Koreans, he's still a monster. Look at his drop awareness and decision making vs other zergs. You can definitely tell Ret, Lucky, Losira (recently), are relatively weaker players compared to him. Admittedly Stephano does seem to have terrible zvz vs koreans though.
Thobrik
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden1120 Posts
May 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#1317
mc wins mind game war 1-0
"Philosophy is questions that may never be answered, Religion is answers that may never be questioned."
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
May 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#1318
wow Smix is doing an amazing job translating. some people might have said "i was really surprised", but I think "i was really taken aback" is the more appropriate meaning behind what Squirtle said.

Smix agogo baby.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
May 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#1319
Woah, Stargate by MC after scouting a stargate fake into robo by Sase
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
May 27 2012 20:13 GMT
#1320
Funny enough now MC is going stargate vs robo, not bad for him.
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